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10-10-2021, 03:11 PM
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#121
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Originally Posted by Tod
Yeah, I've mostly got SanDisk but I don't know if they're Ultra or not. They all work in Windows 10 but about half, or maybe 3/4s of them don't work in Windows 7.
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Sandisk Ultra look like This.
I have several of these and they've worked well for me.
I've also had a positive experience the following:
- Ultra Fit
- PNY Elite Fit
- PNY Elite Turbo Attache
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10-10-2021, 03:16 PM
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#122
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Location: Charleston, SC
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Originally Posted by lucas_LCS
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I've had those sandisk fail on me. Not sure any USB thumdrive is that solid.
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10-10-2021, 03:25 PM
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#123
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Originally Posted by Coachz
I've had those sandisk fail on me. Not sure any USB thumdrive is that solid.
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Mine have worked well for me for many years, but I had several Kingston fail on me before switching to those 2 brands.
It could just be the luck of the draw or possibly unknown exposure to heat, maybe?
People used to swear by Western Digital HDDs and say Seagate was bad, but I had the opposite experience.
You just have to try them out for yourself and find which ones work for you.
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10-11-2021, 07:02 AM
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#124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tod
I always thought the higher the power supply wattage the better. I'll have to check into that.
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Generally, a higher wattage power supply IS better because efficiency maxes out under 50% load. If you are running a power supply at a higher load it becomes less efficient. However, you are probably talking about a difference of a couple of Kiliowatt hours each year... However, scaled across millions of computers the savings starts adding up.
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10-11-2021, 01:29 PM
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#125
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Originally Posted by Lynx_TWO
Generally, a higher wattage power supply IS better because efficiency maxes out under 50% load. If you are running a power supply at a higher load it becomes less efficient. However, you are probably talking about a difference of a couple of Kiliowatt hours each year... However, scaled across millions of computers the savings starts adding up.
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Thank you Lynx, may I call you Lynx?
For what it's worth, I did end up with a 650 watt PS. I was going for 700 watts, but the comments here convinced me 650 watts was fine for my computer build.
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10-11-2021, 02:47 PM
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#126
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Originally Posted by Tod
Thank you Lynx, may I call you Lynx?
For what it's worth, I did end up with a 650 watt PS. I was going for 700 watts, but the comments here convinced me 650 watts was fine for my computer build.
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My actual name is Dan . 650 watts sounds good! Yea my computer motherboard took a sh-t yesterday so just got computer components myself. Wasn’t really looking forward to spending the money though… In some ways it’ll be a step backwards but as far as Reaper is concerned the 5900x should be well above the old dual Xeon 2690v4 setup for single-thread performance. Can’t go wrong with AMD these days, they seem to be killing Intel on all fronts.
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10-11-2021, 08:06 PM
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#127
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Originally Posted by Lynx_TWO
Can’t go wrong with AMD these days, they seem to be killing Intel on all fronts.
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I know, I had an Intel i7-4790 which is still a good processor, but just like me, it was getting old. Besides I was going to build a new computer for my wife, but decided to just give her my old one and build a new one for may self.
Thanks Dan, and you're right, AMD is on top these days.
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10-11-2021, 09:42 PM
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#129
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Originally Posted by BrentHarmon
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I didn't see any cost analysis, did you Brent?
Ha ha, there's nothing saying I can't build another computer.
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10-12-2021, 04:54 AM
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#130
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Originally Posted by BrentHarmon
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For me I'll be looking at the 12900 without the K or F because I don't need to overclock and I would like the graphics built into the chip. Hopefully it will be even cheaper than the overclocking model. Coming from a ten-year-old 980x CPU I should get plenty of performance increase without having to go into the challenging world of overclocking.
I'm guessing that I don't need a motherboard with ddr5 and can just reuse my ddr4 memory
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10-12-2021, 05:39 AM
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#131
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Originally Posted by BrentHarmon
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Yea but that CPU is going to cost an arm and a leg. Most of us here have limited resources and like to do other things like travel so we have to do a basic cost-benefit analysis. 3x the price for a 22% performance gain isn’t worth it IMHO. Now, 22% for a 10% increase in cost? Sure.
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10-12-2021, 05:44 AM
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#132
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Originally Posted by Coachz
I'm guessing that I don't need a motherboard with ddr5 and can just reuse my ddr4 memory
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You sure about that? According to Intel, memory type for i7-980X is DDR3 1066.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...intel-qpi.html
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10-12-2021, 05:55 AM
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#133
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Originally Posted by Edgemeal
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Oh you're right. Oh well I'll have to decide whether to buy ddr4 or ddr5. I'd be interested to know what difference of any it makes in a daw
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10-12-2021, 01:04 PM
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#134
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Very few motherboards support DDR5 right now since it’s brand new. I’d stick with DDR4 unless money is no object and you want to be an early adopter to drive prices down for the rest of us
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10-12-2021, 07:55 PM
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#135
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Location: Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tod
I didn't see any cost analysis, did you Brent?
Ha ha, there's nothing saying I can't build another computer.
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https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-In....561621.0.html
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10-12-2021, 08:56 PM
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#136
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Originally Posted by BrentHarmon
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Thanks Brent, ha ha, that's roughly half the cost of my whole computer build.
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10-13-2021, 07:15 AM
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#137
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tod
Thanks Brent, ha ha, that's roughly half the cost of my whole computer build.
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Agreed. $605 is still way over the "Bang for your Buck' price of AMD
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10-13-2021, 04:18 PM
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#138
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Originally Posted by Tod
Thanks Brent, ha ha, that's roughly half the cost of my whole computer build.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynx_TWO
Agreed. $605 is still way over the "Bang for your Buck' price of AMD
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I won't guarantee that those are the legit prices until Intel introduces the chip at the end of this month and start shipping them out next month. That's what when I will know if indeed they are they prices.
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10-13-2021, 05:24 PM
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#139
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We might not have to wait very long for Alder Like benchmarks now that the new benchmark suite is released
https://www.scan.co.uk/info/proaudio/presszone/dawbench
The 10980x is actually still performing quite well, I wouldn't be surprised if that's because it has quad channel memory and that ddr5 will give a nice boost in dual channel platforms. That being said, I've never spent more than $200 on a CPU and I'm very happy with my modest i5 11400. I can run everything I need without having to bounce, it's giving at least 3 times the performance compared to my old Ivy Bridge.
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10-27-2021, 03:35 PM
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#140
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Location: Oregon
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Looks like the price on the Intel Alder Lake jump a bit in price to $629.99 at Newegg https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9...Tpk=19-118-341
I haven't seen it pop up on Amazon yet so fingers crossed.
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10-27-2021, 04:02 PM
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#141
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston, SC
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Out of stock is no price
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10-27-2021, 06:23 PM
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#142
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Location: Oregon
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Originally Posted by Coachz
Out of stock is no price
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10-28-2021, 07:26 AM
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#143
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Nearly the same price as a complete Mac Mini M1
-Michael
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10-28-2021, 07:57 AM
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#144
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Originally Posted by BrentHarmon
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My point is if something doesn't exist meaning out of stock than the price is meaningless
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10-28-2021, 01:22 PM
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#145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coachz
My point is if something doesn't exist meaning out of stock than the price is meaningless
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Yeah, it does appear to be out of stock.
I wonder if it's because it's been purchased so many times, or if it's because of the current shortages? Maybe both?
Or maybe it's got a lot of problems?
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10-28-2021, 02:02 PM
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#146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tod
Yeah, it does appear to be out of stock.
I wonder if it's because it's been purchased so many times, or if it's because of the current shortages? Maybe both?
Or maybe it's got a lot of problems?
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I believe it's because it is not released till Nov 4th next week so they just put the web site up to be ready.
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10-28-2021, 06:32 PM
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#147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coachz
I believe it's because it is not released till Nov 4th next week so they just put the web site up to be ready.
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Aah, ha ha, okay.
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10-28-2021, 08:11 PM
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#148
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Location: Oregon
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Yes November 4th is the day they are supposed to ship Along with Z690 Motherboards and DD5 Ram
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10-29-2021, 04:22 AM
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#149
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Originally Posted by BrentHarmon
Yes November 4th is the day they are supposed to ship Along with Z690 Motherboards and DD5 Ram
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Or as I call it.... beta test day
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10-30-2021, 04:20 PM
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#150
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Location: Oregon
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08-20-2022, 09:36 PM
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#151
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Location: San Francisco, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fakemaxwell
I'd check what your wattage requirements will actually be on PCpartpicker. Just eyeballing what you have, I bet you're using so much less wattage that the 750W is working less efficiently than a 600w would be. There's efficiency curves to power supplies you can look up, the sweet spot is almost always 50% load. No way this is pulling 375w a majority of the time.
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interesting. the formula i was using was roughly doubling my wattage calc. so if peak (if that's how partspicker does it) was 400 i'd go 800watts. where i live heating is the issue most of the year. PC can be space heater?
i also think about wear and tear. thinking extra wattage means extra life. but i have no data to back that. finally, i look at warranties. i try to find long ones since this power supply could go into the next build in theory.
i used to really sweat fan noise. and was tempted to get a fan free PSU. but in my experience it's been the CPU fan that cause the noise.
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08-20-2022, 10:44 PM
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#152
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Originally Posted by cporro
interesting. the formula i was using was roughly doubling my wattage calc. so if peak (if that's how partspicker does it) was 400 i'd go 800watts. where i live heating is the issue most of the year. PC can be space heater?
i also think about wear and tear. thinking extra wattage means extra life. but i have no data to back that. finally, i look at warranties. i try to find long ones since this power supply could go into the next build in theory.
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I ended up getting a 650 watt PSU and I haven't noticed any heat problems with it.
Ha ha, as far as heating your house I wouldn't count on it.
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i used to really sweat fan noise. and was tempted to get a fan free PSU. but in my experience it's been the CPU fan that cause the noise.
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The comp that I built a year and a half ago has very little noise. In fact it's almost no noise. There are 2 fans in front, 1 fan in back, and the CPU fan (Scythe Fuma 2 Dual Tower CPU Cooler).
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08-21-2022, 12:47 AM
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#153
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It seems the Apple silicone (ARM 64 System on Chip) redefines the power demand of personal computers drastically.
I read that the M1 Mac Mini close to never spins up it's fan when doing any work similar to DAW.
Comparing an M2 system to similar powerful Intel PCs supposedly will show appropriate results.
-Michael
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08-21-2022, 05:10 AM
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#154
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When it comes to fans, Noctua fans are right up there with the best. They are kinda ugly and slightly more expensive but you’ll really never replace them. I have several that are ten+ years old and still going strong; and they are super quiet. I’ve replaced all the cheaper fans since the bearings all went bad.
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