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04-10-2014, 08:48 AM
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Automation Lanes - order and tinting
OK, let's try something that seems simple to do:
For ages we can rearrange tracks by dragging the TCP up / down, with a thick royal blue line indicating the drop position.
Can we please do the same with automation envelope lanes?
Who's with me ?
Issue tracker: http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=5155
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Also,
For ages we can tint (part of) the TCP from a colour palette or with a specific / random colour.
Can we please do the same with automation envelope lanes?
Issue tracker: http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=5156
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04-10-2014, 10:22 AM
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Both are a must have imho (and it's very strange that these are not implemented if i think about the incredible Reaper's customizability).
I will add also an element in the tcp that allows to easy show/hide all the active envelopes (for that track) in one click...just like the compact button for folder.
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04-10-2014, 01:04 PM
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Voted. This makes sense anyway, but I would especially like it because REAPER fails to keep focus on the envelope lanes you're editing when 'zooming' (i.e. changing lane height) vertically.
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04-10-2014, 01:28 PM
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Hand up.
I would usually add ... "Please also allow moving them completely away from, out under from, the parent track, to do things like list all of your related automation parts together." ... but that would just reignite the 'track class' debate, and someone would tell me that automation tracks are useless and the universal tracks can do the exact same thing, I just need to learn Reaper better.
So I wont.
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04-10-2014, 01:42 PM
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Hi DarkStar!
I´m with you, certainly. I created some time ago a FR in the tracker with the same issue :
http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=5017
Mine focused on reordering, proper resizing and multiple selection; I didn´t cover tinting which is a great idea by the way -already voted-...
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01-19-2017, 11:07 AM
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We must insist on this FR. It is a basic issue to keep organized our projects.
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01-19-2017, 11:59 AM
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Both are really essential IMHO
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01-19-2017, 11:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Klangfarben
Both are really essential IMHO
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I dont think they will, its been aksed for years
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01-20-2017, 02:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Germps112
I dont think they will, its been aksed for years
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That is not a reason to stop asking politely for it
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01-20-2017, 02:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Germps112
I dont think they will, its been aksed for years
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Automation items have been asked for years and look what happens in the latest prerelease.
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01-20-2017, 02:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
Automation items have been asked for years and look what happens in the latest prerelease.
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Exactly, you are right.
[offtopic] By the way, EvilDragon, why don't you add this idea of yours in the REAPER Feature Requests? http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=39711 I will be more visible for everyone (including the Devs), I think.
Adding WyattRice proposal might be useful too: http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...4&postcount=38[/offtopic]
Last edited by Vagalume; 01-20-2017 at 03:16 AM.
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01-20-2017, 03:12 AM
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Voted.
Great addition when available.
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01-22-2017, 03:05 AM
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+1 for rearranging everything
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01-22-2017, 03:07 AM
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Yep, it should be consistent with Reaper philosophy. +1
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02-19-2017, 07:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
Automation items have been asked for years and look what happens in the latest prerelease.
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You mean that allows to do parameter modulation too, click parameter and then it shows up in the autmoation item? Or how the system is working, i havt tried pre versions yet...
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02-19-2017, 07:18 AM
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AFAIK now, fiddling around abit with Automation Items lately, that is not (yet?) possible ...:
You first still have to create an envelope for the parameter you wanna change.
Then right mouse click on that envelope and then you have the option to create an Automation Item.
I hope i am not correct :0)
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02-19-2017, 10:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
AFAIK now, fiddling around abit with Automation Items lately, that is not (yet?) possible ...:
You first still have to create an envelope for the parameter you wanna change.
Then right mouse click on that envelope and then you have the option to create an Automation Item.
I hope i am not correct :0)
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I like the abletons automation just clikc the parameter and it pops up allready for tweaking Nifty
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02-19-2017, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Germps112
I like the abletons automation just clikc the parameter and it pops up allready for tweaking Nifty
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I dunno if you are aware of the following, although abit offtopic, cause we were talkin' about Automation Items and not about Envelope Lanes ..:
Situation:
You have a Track with a FX plugin on it.
Do this:
a) Set The Track automation mode to Write or Latch or Touch mode.
b) Open the FX plugin and tweak a parameter.
Outcome:
A new envelope will be created for that tweaked parameter.
You see that new envelope in the media lane of the Track, or on it's own Automation Lane.
Depends how you have set the Preference setting "show new envelopes in separate envelope lanes".
Warm Regards.
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02-19-2017, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
I dunno if you are aware of the following, although abit offtopic, cause we were talkin' about Automation Items and not about Envelope Lanes ..:
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No. The thread is about Automation lanes, not AIs.
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02-19-2017, 12:54 PM
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I was referring to last post of Germps112, where he asked something that was AI related, not Lane related.
However, sorry for the confusion in my last post to him.
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02-19-2017, 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
I was referring to last post of Germps112, where he asked something that was AI related, not Lane related.
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Oh, sorry for that. I just didn't understand.
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02-20-2017, 09:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
I was referring to last post of Germps112, where he asked something that was AI related, not Lane related.
However, sorry for the confusion in my last post to him.
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I was today duplicating tracks in reaper, and i had automation there, it did not copye the automation with the tracks, i closed reaper, and opened live instead to create. It kills creativity, i still slowly try to see if there are some workarounds, but i dont want to tweak the DAW i want make music allready I seem to tweak all the options it has... but i take my time still in free time to make it work, maybe some day it will happen, iam to ne to this DAW
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02-20-2017, 02:39 PM
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Check this screenshot:
https://i.imgur.com/hjpeQqe.png
When you enable this option, Reaper will copy Tracks plus the automation on it.
Hope this is helpful !
Sidenote: Please be patient with learning Reaper.
I hear your frustration, but if you take your time to learn it, it will pay back
for sure
This whole community is really friendly and always willing to help you
with every question / issue you have.
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09-22-2017, 08:34 AM
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Bump for the original 2 requests:
-- re-order Automation Envelopes lanes
-- tint Automation Envelopes lanes
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09-22-2017, 09:21 AM
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Yep, it should be done. +1
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09-22-2017, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dstruct
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+1 plus multiple select envelope tracks .. To delete , resize And whatever
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09-22-2017, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
-- tint Automation Envelopes lanes
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Defintely yes, not being able to reoder the lanes has annoyed me many times.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
-- tint Automation Envelopes lanes
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A nice one to have.
Masi
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01-13-2018, 11:41 AM
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And again:
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
Bump for the original 2 requests:
-- re-order Automation Envelopes lanes
-- tint Automation Envelopes lanes
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01-13-2018, 12:10 PM
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Re+1-ed.
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01-13-2018, 02:14 PM
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Ooh Yes, please Justin & schwa, make this happen !
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01-15-2018, 05:13 AM
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+1
Kind of strange that you are not able to rearrange the envelope lanes in an easier manner.
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01-15-2018, 08:08 AM
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+1
My own thread based on this request,
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....77#post1940877
in such cases where you work with Kontakt-multi-timbral with several MIDI tracks routed to Kontakt instance track. All the automation lanes just appear under Kontakt's track(parent). This makes it a bit hard to tell which automation lane belongs to which MIDI track. I've learnt that you can alias the lanes but for the sake of tidiness I'd prefer to have them under relevant MIDI track.
Thanks,
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02-18-2018, 12:59 PM
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Agreed, this is a must!
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02-19-2018, 06:17 AM
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Please yes
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03-31-2018, 09:39 AM
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Reaper 6 is near. It's the moment of thinking about this FR.
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03-31-2018, 10:04 AM
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+1 This really needs to happen.
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04-01-2018, 12:57 PM
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+1, along with an interpretation of "free item positioning mode" for envelopes being displayed in media lane
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10-15-2018, 05:27 PM
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+1 for sure!
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05-11-2020, 09:19 AM
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Friendly neighborhood bump. Would be pretty lit
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