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04-04-2018, 04:57 PM
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Installed it but it won't load up properly. Stuck at the splash screen.
Anyone else get this?
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04-04-2018, 07:43 PM
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No issues here. Downloaded, installed, configured my I/O (lots of outboard gear), works with my Faderport 8 perfectly, checked a few plugins and all seems good.
Not sure what their plan is, but I like free, I like the maturity of the product. I was preparing to move to Cubase, but this changes everything.
I'll keep my 5.x versions of Reaper. Reaper will take its place with Ableton and Reason as adjunct tools in my studio, especially if Cakewalk is maintained and evolves in the way the developers had described after Gibson shut it down. Wondering about Z3TA+ and Dimension Pro as well.
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04-04-2018, 08:05 PM
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Got it working. Starting from inside the BandLab Assistant didn't work.
Regular Start menu or shortcut worked fine.
Free is great but my weak laptop maxed out quickly and started to throttle.
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04-04-2018, 08:10 PM
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Like others here, I started with Cakewalk for DOS lo those many years ago and left it for REAPER. I'm curious where this will go.
-Susan
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04-05-2018, 01:00 AM
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Cakewalk is hard to use after Reaper, but instruments are cool, especially drums! Strings are also great.
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04-05-2018, 03:43 AM
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Kept getting nags to register though I was registered and it ran on demo mode. Not happy with BandLab Assistant loading at startup with no option to disable. Got the free VST plugs and uninstalled.
Sorry, nothing will top REAPER.
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04-05-2018, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Susan G
Like others here, I started with Cakewalk for DOS lo those many years ago and left it for REAPER. I'm curious where this will go.
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Same here - was sad to see CW go. But I'm not jumping on it at present...
It'll be interesting to see this as a sorta test case. I *detest* the trend toward in app stuff (ads, purchases, content, etc). And not being able to offline or ensure activation.
DAWS are huge investments in time and energy to learn and get good at - so there's are "relationship" thingy here that for long term needs to have a little trust in it. Not being in control bothers me (call me controlling!)
But thats why I like REAPER. Rough around some of the edges yes, but very clear what it is in terms of value for the $ and awesome capability. I don't feel like I'm being data mined and targeted for apps or additional $$ at all times.
CW *used* to be pretty good when they had the SN authorization -- but with yearly "updates" almost require to fix bugs, it felt more like a subscription. Add the new way they offered "subscriptions", and trying to monetize bundled content, add on content, etc. Annoying as hell.
Lets see what Bandlab does. Meng seems like a great guy, passionate, etc. And with some of their other holdings it may fit in and be a great, well supported product - w/o having to be used as a vehicle for add on / subscription junk.
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04-05-2018, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Retro Audio Enthusiast
Got the free VST plugs and uninstalled.
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I'm a bit confused. Do the plugs continue to work after the host is uninstalled?
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04-05-2018, 06:45 AM
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AFAIK, it will be free for 6 months (even for the installed version)
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04-05-2018, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Reno.thestraws
AFAIK, it will be free for 6 months (even for the installed version)
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Could you please share the link to confirm your words?
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04-05-2018, 07:13 AM
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man I really don't like the theme its so over packed with options and no space to work
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04-05-2018, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dug dog
I'm a bit confused. Do the plugs continue to work after the host is uninstalled?
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Yes.
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Originally Posted by lachrimae
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04-05-2018, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by vitalker
Could you please share the link to confirm your words?
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install the products and then go in the "about cakewalk" menu
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04-05-2018, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Reno.thestraws
install the products and then go in the "about cakewalk" menu
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I've got info they'll remove that date.
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04-05-2018, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Reno.thestraws
install the products and then go in the "about cakewalk" menu
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This was already answered by "Meng" from BandLab:
QUICK UPDATE: The 04-10-2018 in the license/about us is just an arbitrary 6 month date set for authorization checks - it's confusing and will be removed in future versions. It's NOT an expiry date :-)
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Cakewalk-B...-m3743935.aspx
This is the full monty SPLAT including ARA integration. I even have my licensed Melodyne & VocAlign Project working with Cakewalk by BandLab at no extra cost.
I think the days of paying hundreds of dollars for a DAW app and then hundreds more for continual updates are coming to an end. SPLAT offers everything one would need to create, track, mix and create content (CD, MP3, Streaming & Surround formats etc) without ever spending a dime! Bandlab states they have users in 180 different countries and now they all will have access to Cakewalk by BandLab for free. This is going to really shake up the DAW biz. I mean, how do you compete with free!
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04-05-2018, 09:40 AM
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I am confused, too. Did install Cakewalk but no VSTs apart from TH3 which runs in demo mode in REAPER.
What content can I expect from this Cakewalk version (the only reason why I would use another DAW)?
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04-05-2018, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by billybk1
I mean, how do you compete with free!
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* by stability and performance for reasonable price (Reaper)
* by special work-flow (Ableton, Tracktion, Mixbus)
* by hardware integration (Studio One)
* by tradition (ProTools, Cubase)
Also "free" or "cheap" is usually associated with "a toy" or "bad". The reason for Apple profit and Reaper underestimation
So the only DAW "in danger" which comes to my mind is Mixcraft.
In its current form, CbB can be seen as the best DAW for education: capable in functionality, includes essential pack of instruments and effects, free. Once they put Bandlab (as a web platform) uploading module (they not yet write about it, but that is logical integration step), CbB will be even more attractive for education (combined with "cooperation" modus, the library of sounds, cloud mastering...).
To match that, other DAWs will have to add functionality to there free/entry level versions. Any may be start thinking about own cloud platforms...
At least that is how I interpret Meng's world domination plan
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04-05-2018, 10:14 AM
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Humm, I tried 3 times but no luck. I kept getting the message that the username and or email were wrong.
Then I tried to use their support email but that didn't work either.
I've got a lot of old Sonar projects I'd like to get into.
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04-05-2018, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by timothys_monster
I am confused, too. Did install Cakewalk but no VSTs apart from TH3 which runs in demo mode in REAPER.
What content can I expect from this Cakewalk version (the only reason why I would use another DAW)?
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You can expect old owned by Cakewalk plug-ins "without future".
Some Cakewalk plug-ins, while old, have newer versions (DimPro -> Rapture Pro, Z3TA -> Z3TA2). There is not reason to give them for free (Meng has explicitly mentioned on Cakewalk forum that future updates for current plug-ins are not going to be free).
Some plug-ins are in DX format. They can work in Reaper, but can be "invisible" (f.e. TTS-1).
TH3 is Overloud product. Matched version was gifted to Sonar users, but not to everyone.
In other words, CbB is Sonar Platinum as a DAW, but not as a package...
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04-05-2018, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Tod
I've got a lot of old Sonar projects I'd like to get into.
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Why you do not continue with them in Reaper?
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04-05-2018, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by azslow3
Why you do not continue with them in Reaper?
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Ermmmm.. Sonar projects and/or bundles can't be opened in Reaper... completely different format
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04-05-2018, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by uncleswede
Ermmmm.. Sonar projects and/or bundles can't be opened in Reaper... completely different format
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Bundles - no, projects - yes. Check this board sticky
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04-05-2018, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Retro Audio Enthusiast
Yes.
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I did get the Drums, strings and Bass to work in Reaper but never saw these ones.
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04-05-2018, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tod
Humm, I tried 3 times but no luck. I kept getting the message that the username and or email were wrong.
Then I tried to use their support email but that didn't work either.
I've got a lot of old Sonar projects I'd like to get into.
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Hey Tod, use the email address.....once you get into your account you'll find that your 'user name' is not your old cakewalk login 'name'. The new 'user name' looks like 'userxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx' but can be changed.
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04-05-2018, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by azslow3
Why you do not continue with them in Reaper?
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I used Cakewalk for nearly 20 years up to Sonar 4. Then my old XP died and I couldn't install Sonar 4 onto my new computer.
If I can load them into the BandLab thingy, then I will get them changed over to Reaper.
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Originally Posted by Goldreap
Hey Tod, use the email address.....once you get into your account you'll find that your 'user name' is not your old cakewalk login 'name'. The new 'user name' looks like 'userxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx' but can be changed.
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Thanks Goldreap, I did verify my email and when I got into BandLab they showed my old user name, I didn't see anything like 'userxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'.
I don't think they've got things together very well yet, however, I did manage to finally get an email to them regarding the situation.
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04-05-2018, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tod
I used Cakewalk for nearly 20 years up to Sonar 4. Then my old XP died and I couldn't install Sonar 4 onto my new computer.
If I can load them into the BandLab thingy, then I will get them changed over to Reaper.
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I agree then... ReaCWP is not preserving FX chains from Sonar 6-.
I recommend to save into new location under CbB, with audio files copy, and use ReaCWP with the result. Such way should preserve all information (currently supported by the converter).
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04-05-2018, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by azslow3
* by stability and performance for reasonable price (Reaper)
* by special work-flow (Ableton, Tracktion, Mixbus)
* by hardware integration (Studio One)
* by tradition (ProTools, Cubase)
Also "free" or "cheap" is usually associated with "a toy" or "bad". The reason for Apple profit and Reaper underestimation
So the only DAW "in danger" which comes to my mind is Mixcraft.
In its current form, CbB can be seen as the best DAW for education: capable in functionality, includes essential pack of instruments and effects, free. Once they put Bandlab (as a web platform) uploading module (they not yet write about it, but that is logical integration step), CbB will be even more attractive for education (combined with "cooperation" modus, the library of sounds, cloud mastering...).
To match that, other DAWs will have to add functionality to there free/entry level versions. Any may be start thinking about own cloud platforms...
At least that is how I interpret Meng's world domination plan
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Interesting perspective. Personally, I think if BandLab plays this right, they can drastically impact the FREE to sub-$100 market, and possibly dominate it, which will have a ripple effect on any DAW that sells a version in that price range. Anything up to $100 will be at some level of risk, some greater than others. However, once someone spends >$100 they tend to become much more selective about their tools... it becomes more personal and suited to their personal approach/workflow/philosophy/requirements/preferences/market/colleagues. Reaper is likely an exception.
So the DAWs that have the majority of dedicated users in the >$100 range will likely not be impacted too much, if at all. And pros in general who haven't already used Cakewalk are unlikely to switch "en masse" to Cakewalk IMO.
And in the case of Reaper, I don't think it will matter one bit. Justin and the whole vibe of the dedicated community in general are basically immune or don't care much (if at all) about the paradigm of Cakewalk IMO. And Justin will keep doing what he does best. And BTW, the pricing structure of Reaper is very different. At the lower end, it's so reasonable as to not be an issue if someone wants to buy it. And Justin has mastered the "value" proposition of Reaper, so that I consider Reaper to be an exception in the sub $100 group of DAWs.
But again, for most anything else under $100, watch out... there are some DAWs that will be in greater danger than others, and might not survive. They'll have to differentiate and justify to keep people paying $$$ for their DAW when they could switch to Cakewalk for free.
And this all depends on how well BandLab executes their plan for Cakewalk. They could botch the whole thing and it could be a big mess. Or they could pour tons of money into Cakewalk and be very solid and innovative. Who knows? We shall see. Knowing that Noel Borthwick is currently in charge of development does NOT suggest to me that there will be "big innovations" any time soon. He's a great guy, and I respect him a lot, but I consider him on the *conservative* side when it comes to DAW innovation. He is *steady* and smart, but not a crazy innovating genius. He does NOT push boundaries. He and Meng might disagree with that, but Noel's work speaks volumes, and even if you look at Meng's philosophy with BandLab itself (the web app), all their innovation (prior to acquiring Cakewalk) is in the cloud collaboration side of things, NOT really in the music creativity side. Meng and Noel are a good fit for each other. So DAWs like BitWig have NOTHING to worry about, for example. And indeed BandLab would be silly to go after niche/specialty DAWs like BitWig anyway... they want "maximum" market penetration so their product direction is likely much more general purpose rather than cutting edge.
And again, Reaper has nothing to fear. It is on the surface similar to many DAWs from an outsider's point of view, but underneath it is a totally unique beast, along with a different kind of community, not to mention Justin won't bat an eyelash at this.
Very interesting days ahead!
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04-05-2018, 01:23 PM
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Does this instalation from BandLAb overwrite the current version of Sonar Platinum? I would like to keep the original if possible.
Thanks
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04-05-2018, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rluka
Does this instalation from BandLAb overwrite the current version of Sonar Platinum? I would like to keep the original if possible.
Thanks
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They can coexist. In fact that is recommended way (since CbB has much less plug-ins). But UNinstalling theoretically can be problematic.
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Originally Posted by fetidus
And this all depends on how well BandLab executes their plan for Cakewalk. They could botch the whole thing and it could be a big mess. Or they could pour tons of money into Cakewalk and be very solid and innovative. Who knows? We shall see. Knowing that Noel Borthwick is currently in charge of development does NOT suggest to me that there will be "big innovations" any time soon. He's a great guy, and I respect him a lot, but I consider him on the *conservative* side when it comes to DAW innovation. He is *steady* and smart, but not a crazy innovating genius. He does NOT push boundaries.
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I completely agree with that. But I have more pessimistic vision...
Cakewalk was not killed by Gibson, it was slowly, "naturally", aging down to the ground. During last 10 years they was just "face lifting" in the past innovative product, I guess partially even without understanding it and in a hurry. All introduced in that period features have significant amount of bugs, incomplete, not "integrated" and the engine was not advanced at all. I mean with all respect to Noel, he was there all that time.
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04-05-2018, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tod
I used Cakewalk for nearly 20 years up to Sonar 4. Then my old XP died and I couldn't install Sonar 4 onto my new computer.
If I can load them into the BandLab thingy, then I will get them changed over to Reaper.
Thanks Goldreap, I did verify my email and when I got into BandLab they showed my old user name, I didn't see anything like 'userxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'.
I don't think they've got things together very well yet, however, I did manage to finally get an email to them regarding the situation.
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I'm seeing the long 'user name' right under my 'name' when I go to my profile on the site. I can get to my profile by logging directly into the site or by first logging into the BandLab Assistant then clicking on the cog top left.....but yeah, all very uninteresting really for old guys like me...reminds me of the confusion I had with Soundcloud...I think the advantage of changing your 'user name' is that because it is part of your unique URL people can search for you and get results...something like that.
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04-05-2018, 03:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tod
I used Cakewalk for nearly 20 years up to Sonar 4. Then my old XP died and I couldn't install Sonar 4 onto my new computer.
If I can load them into the BandLab thingy, then I will get them changed over to Reaper.
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I just tested it today. CnB will load sonar 4 bundles. Then you just need to export the tracks.
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04-05-2018, 03:52 PM
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I'll have to politely disagree with any idea of this causing any product "not to survive" and the reason is pretty clear to anyone with two eyes, that most consumers of these products are daw whores always chasing the new shiny thing and owning multiple products and always wanting it all.
A person who's already inclined to spend thousands of dollars on multiple daws, many of them buying and selling and buying again like candy, won't stop doing that just because Sonar is free. Their motivation isn't really saving money.
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04-05-2018, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by azslow3
I completely agree with that. But I have more pessimistic vision...
Cakewalk was not killed by Gibson, it was slowly, "naturally", aging down to the ground. During last 10 years they was just "face lifting" in the past innovative product, I guess partially even without understanding it and in a hurry. All introduced in that period features have significant amount of bugs, incomplete, not "integrated" and the engine was not advanced at all. I mean with all respect to Noel, he was there all that time.
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Thanks for your insight on that -- I can't say how well-executed Sonar features were in recent years, as it's been a long time since I last used it personally. And I have no intention of using it again. I've got my hands full with other DAWs. However, it does hold a special place in my heart back from the early Greg Henderschott days, so I'm always interested in its progression.
Very true that Noel has been there all these years of decline -- I have more or less followed the story. I do think part of the problem was a very much changing and extremely competitive market that Cakewalk could not ever fully adapt to. They had been losing money for many years. You can even dig up some old loss numbers from back in 2010, etc... and you can see they were losing a lot of money on top of shrinking sales. What kind of pressure would that put on the dev team?
I'm not really sure who to blame, but the spiral down continued with Gibson obviously, and Noel was there during all that time too. But he was NOT the CEO, and while he had a lot of input on features/direction/resources, I'm sure many people contributed to the decisions. But if you think about it, whatever was going on, Noel had to theoretically deal with shrinking resources and tons of pressure each year, so who gets the blame? Maybe it was a miracle he pulled off what he did? And in any case, maybe now, with the right budget and more freedom and less pressure, he might take Cakewalk where he's wanted to for a long time.
On the other hand, perhaps he is too "old school" and maybe they need newer blood on the team now. And maybe you're totally right that they didn't invest in the core technology for too long, but just did window dressing on an aging engine. If true, then Noel has his work cut out for him, and many other DAW developers can breathe a sigh of relief. I remember back the last time I used it, there were serious issues with the audio engine. If they haven't substantially dealt with engine issues for THAT long, then no other developer has anything to worry about. Building a new engine could take YEARS.
The vibe I'm getting at this point is that Cakewalk will not be gunning for the position of BEST AND MOST POWERFUL DAW FOR X, Y, Z FEATURES... but rather, it will be gunning for GENERAL DAW FOR THE MASSES. No matter how "ambitious" the roadmap is, they won't be going after the niches, but right at the center. Plus they have the HUGE advantage as a "free" product that people will be willing to accept a lower standard for that price (free!). But still, any other DAW that occupies that middle ground in the sub $100 range will be in trouble IMO.
What I wonder is what happens when BandLab has to actually make money one day? Right now they seem to be operating like a Silicon Valley startup flush with new cash from a recent round of angel investors. Eventually the company will be expected to actually make money, and what happens to the all the folks who jump on Cakewalk now? This is uncharted territory for DAWs in terms of business models, so while I wish them luck, I'm not remotely convinced they'll make it to profitability, which will spell bad news for the many new Cakewalk users. I personally would NOT jump on board on Cakewalk until a lot of these questions are answered. Good intentions don't pay the bills!
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04-05-2018, 11:20 PM
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I just tested it today. CnB will load sonar 4 bundles. Then you just need to export the tracks.
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Sorry that I repeat again. There us NO need to export tracks.
Once the project is saved in CbB, it can be opened in Reaper, almost as "native". So preserving audio/midi tracks with clips, automations, FX chains, Synth and routing.
https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
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04-06-2018, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael AD
I too was a LONG TIME user of Cakewalk going back to their days as 12 Tone Systems. I too had Sonar Platinum with the lifetime subscription.
And then I found Reaper.
It took me a few days to adjust and I've never touched Cakewalk again.
Nuff said!
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Me too!
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04-06-2018, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by azslow3
Sorry that I repeat again. There us NO need to export tracks.
Once the project is saved in CbB, it can be opened in Reaper, almost as "native". So preserving audio/midi tracks with clips, automations, FX chains, Synth and routing.
https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=202667
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God damn, where the hell was this last summer when I blew 2 weekends doing nothings but exporting stems from my old Sonar projects into reaper?
I thought I was being an ass for procrastinating so much, turns out I didn't do it enough!
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04-06-2018, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by fetidus
What I wonder is what happens when BandLab has to actually make money one day? Right now they seem to be operating like a Silicon Valley startup flush with new cash from a recent round of angel investors. Eventually the company will be expected to actually make money, and what happens to the all the folks who jump on Cakewalk now? This is uncharted territory for DAWs in terms of business models, so while I wish them luck, I'm not remotely convinced they'll make it to profitability, which will spell bad news for the many new Cakewalk users. I personally would NOT jump on board on Cakewalk until a lot of these questions are answered. Good intentions don't pay the bills!
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Well said - there's a whole book on the Silicon Valley etc in regards to the way that initially the boom is all about hype of (un-measurable) growth and projections (smoke and mirrors).
The worst thing the company can do is actually have to start DELIVERING on expectations where they are then actually measured. Usually they play hot-potato and dump them to some sucker before the bust. Or they get stuck.
Well,see...
http://www.rushkoff.com/books/throwi...he-google-bus/
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04-06-2018, 08:32 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,802
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Originally Posted by Alma Mare
I thought I was being an ass for procrastinating so much, turns out I didn't do it enough!
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LOL. How many chances does one get to say this in a lifetime?
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04-06-2018, 08:42 AM
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#79
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 9,098
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Wow, I can run 25% fewer plugins and have more frequent crashes... FOR FREE???
Sign me up! NOT!!!
I started using Cakewalk for DOS on an Amiga with a 286 Bridgeboard back in the 80s. Then bought every update Cake ever made up until Sonar 5, when a logn existing Sonar bug bit me one too many times and I tried Reaper.
I've only looked back because I started doing digital recording with Cake/Sonar, but it is so far behind Reaper in terms of raw performance and reliability that I have zero desire to even install the new BandAid version.
I hear it was installing crap that carries on internet communications with the mother ship the moment that Windows starts up. They say that will be fixed soon, but it does expose the data harvesting nature of this free software.
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04-06-2018, 10:00 AM
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#80
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2006
Location: NA - North Augusta South Carolina
Posts: 4,294
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So, is there any reason at all to bother with this? The plugins seem mundane, does Cakewalk offer anything specific Reaper does not?
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