Old 06-27-2017, 01:36 AM   #1
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Default Andrew Scheps Mixing Template

Have any of you guys seen this yet? https://www.puremix.net/video/andrew...-template.html

It's Andrew Scheps guiding you through his mixing template that he uses for every project. What he did was recreate it as closely as possible with the stock plugins from 5 different DAWs.

Now I'm almost certain that Reaper wasn't one of them, but if anyone would like to translate it to REAPER, I'd happily pay for their subscription and for their time for taking on such a daunting task.

Is there anyone here who can do this???

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For those of you who don't know, ALL big time mixers use templates. Some have 2 or 3 templates, some, like CLA or like Billy Decker (country music mixer extraordinaire), uses one template for every single song he mixes, and they both mix over 500 songs a year!

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Old 06-28-2017, 12:49 AM   #2
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No? No one wants to give it a shot? I'm probably the least qualified person to try it. I can barely operate Reaper, yet alone Cubase or Studio One...
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:57 PM   #3
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In one of the comments on the linked site a user mentions they did do a Reaper version of this.

I'd be interested in this also!
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:59 PM   #4
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I'd love to try

I had philosophically resisting templates for years, but lately I'm noticing that I do pretty much the same setup on certain instruments, so its about time
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I bought the Scheps video and template. He is a very interesting and likeable person to watch.

When it comes to his templates, I have both Cubase and Studio One, both of which I occasionally use only to quickly return to Reaper. The implementations of his templates in these two DAWs differ somewhat. Particularly because they use stock plugins that don't completely corresponds to his plugins. Hence when Scheps use Waves Aphex, they try to do something similar with stock plugins that doesn't really sound like the original in Scheps templates.

I tried at best to translate this to Reaper, but more like an addition to my own template. Anyway he mainly uses parallel effects, so I ended up with a selection of parallel tracks added to my own template. Some of these I use now, others I don't. A lot of plugins come with a mix knob (and Reaper has a mix knob), so here and there I chose to just use Scheps principles as and insert partially mixed in.

In the end I only use a fraction of his mixing tricks, but the video was worth the money for learning and inspiration.
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:49 PM   #6
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I tried at best to translate this to Reaper, but more like an addition to my own template. Anyway he mainly uses parallel effects, so I ended up with a selection of parallel tracks added to my own template. Some of these I use now, others I don't. A lot of plugins come with a mix knob (and Reaper has a mix knob), so here and there I chose to just use Scheps principles as and insert partially mixed in.
In the end I only use a fraction of his mixing tricks, but the video was worth the money for learning and inspiration.
Dear Tombuur, i've seen theat tutorial as well and i agree, it's all about parallel processings with Andrew Scheps workflow. I liked it – truly advisable video. Listen, it would be great to see/have your template for educational purposes – what do you think? I haven't found many of them – probably just one interesting – https://stash.reaper.fm/v/29346/MixingTemplate.rpp ... there is a quite wide description for using it here: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....ht=Nzg7wMx2vVY
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Old 09-02-2017, 05:15 AM   #7
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Dear Tombuur, i've seen theat tutorial as well and i agree, it's all about parallel processings with Andrew Scheps workflow. I liked it – truly advisable video. Listen, it would be great to see/have your template for educational purposes – what do you think? I haven't found many of them – probably just one interesting – https://stash.reaper.fm/v/29346/MixingTemplate.rpp ... there is a quite wide description for using it here: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....ht=Nzg7wMx2vVY
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As I wrote I just made an addition to my own template, i.e. some parallel busses with insert settings copied from Cubase, Studio One or taken from his video. They were all done with plugins from Waves, in Console 1 or other third party plugins. I even bought some extra Waves stuff to copy as exactly as possible. So there isn't much template to share. Also I wonder about copright infringement, should I actually upload a Reaper implementation of Scheps's template.
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Thanks for your hard work.
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Old 09-04-2017, 03:37 AM   #9
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As I wrote I just made an addition to my own template, i.e. some parallel busses with insert settings copied from Cubase, Studio One or taken from his video. They were all done with plugins from Waves, in Console 1 or other third party plugins. I even bought some extra Waves stuff to copy as exactly as possible. So there isn't much template to share. Also I wonder about copright infringement, should I actually upload a Reaper implementation of Scheps's template.
Thank you – i'm pretty sure it's a copyright free to offer your own modificated reaper template /workflow (based on any approach), but i understand you don't want to do this :-)
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I bought the Scheps video and template. He is a very interesting and likeable person to watch.

When it comes to his templates, I have both Cubase and Studio One, both of which I occasionally use only to quickly return to Reaper. The implementations of his templates in these two DAWs differ somewhat. Particularly because they use stock plugins that don't completely corresponds to his plugins. Hence when Scheps use Waves Aphex, they try to do something similar with stock plugins that doesn't really sound like the original in Scheps templates.

I tried at best to translate this to Reaper, but more like an addition to my own template. Anyway he mainly uses parallel effects, so I ended up with a selection of parallel tracks added to my own template. Some of these I use now, others I don't. A lot of plugins come with a mix knob (and Reaper has a mix knob), so here and there I chose to just use Scheps principles as and insert partially mixed in.

In the end I only use a fraction of his mixing tricks, but the video was worth the money for learning and inspiration.
Hello, I watched the Andrew Scheps template tutorial, which I found really instructive! I'm trying to rebuild his template in Reaper but I have a very basic question about gain staging:

I'm trying to use the same Scheps settings on compressors. In order to have 3-4 db of gr on parallel drum crash, e.g., I need to feed the compressor with a lot of volume, but in this way all my levels are hitting really hard and master fader is clipping! What am I doing wrong?
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Hello, I watched the Andrew Scheps template tutorial, which I found really instructive! I'm trying to rebuild his template in Reaper but I have a very basic question about gain staging:

I'm trying to use the same Scheps settings on compressors. In order to have 3-4 db of gr on parallel drum crash, e.g., I need to feed the compressor with a lot of volume, but in this way all my levels are hitting really hard and master fader is clipping! What am I doing wrong?
Sorry if this suggestion is stupid, but did you lower compressor threshold?
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Old 10-20-2017, 12:15 PM   #12
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Does the site offer the template in a version that does NOT use stock plugins, but rather the actual ones Andrew uses? I probably have a lot of the same plugs he does, and if I had access to both the version using the stock plugins and the real ones I could probably get very close. I've considered this template, but have resisted for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I want to see and hear the settings from the original plugins.

I'd like to learn how he gets some of the sounds he gets, and I've always enjoyed him speaking in videos. For someone so successful he seems very even keel.

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I bought the Scheps video and template. He is a very interesting and likeable person to watch.

When it comes to his templates, I have both Cubase and Studio One, both of which I occasionally use only to quickly return to Reaper. The implementations of his templates in these two DAWs differ somewhat. Particularly because they use stock plugins that don't completely corresponds to his plugins. Hence when Scheps use Waves Aphex, they try to do something similar with stock plugins that doesn't really sound like the original in Scheps templates.

I tried at best to translate this to Reaper, but more like an addition to my own template. Anyway he mainly uses parallel effects, so I ended up with a selection of parallel tracks added to my own template. Some of these I use now, others I don't. A lot of plugins come with a mix knob (and Reaper has a mix knob), so here and there I chose to just use Scheps principles as and insert partially mixed in.

In the end I only use a fraction of his mixing tricks, but the video was worth the money for learning and inspiration.
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Sorry if this suggestion is stupid, but did you lower compressor threshold?
Sure! But I will miss the gain staging structure he's suggesting in his tutorial...
Sure I can change all the settings according to my own material (this is what a template is for), but I was trying to learn something on how he manage volumes at each stage
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:52 PM   #14
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Templates are where its at

I love building my virtual consoles

I spend way too much time doing this actually lol
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Would be nice to get a drawing of the layout, at least. I don't think I'm going to buy all of the plugins.
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Would be nice to get a drawing of the layout, at least. I don't think I'm going to buy all of the plugins.
My basic rock template is attached. It's based on the Michael Brauer idea, with some of my own in there as well. I have used VCA's as well. They are not reflected here, but you can put them in easily. The main take away for me from MB is the vocal treatment. It is extremely effective.

I like using Compressors as tone units, hence the variety.

In addition, I like to "pre-process" tracks with iron and tubes, then move into gain staging and organizing into the template.



Eric Valentine has recently been posting YouTube content that walks through songs. It's fun to see his set-up. His methods are very similar to what I've settled into.
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Hi,

Are people still interested in a Reaper version of the Schepps template?

I've seen the video and constructed a version of it for Reaper.

It's not an exact copy as I've utilised some of the functions of Reaper to achieve the same thing (I don't use VCAs but I've constructed things in folders) and I don't have all the same plugins but it's either close (for example, the rear bus, I don't have the UAD multimono 1176 so I've used a Waves stereo version and dialled in the same setting) or I've gone my own way to do things (I do an awful lot of top down processing and have set things up to do a lot of drum buss processing if I feel I want to go that way as opposed to the NYC compression stuff he does) that I'm happier doing. But as far as I can remember it's set up to do most of the parallel processing stuff he does.

If there's interest and someone can suggest an easy way to upload it I'm happy to share.
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