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09-26-2018, 05:01 AM
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#41
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i know and you missed
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03-14-2019, 01:43 PM
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#42
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2016
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sure we need better UI
I don't get it why are people against good looking UI.
The answer use your year is stupid.
Reaper claims it self for being cool coz you can redesign its look to your liking and many people do and makes their and mine workflow better/faster.
Why?
Because the clumsy sliders that all looks the same are puzzling as hell.
Compresor, Gate, Delay, you name it.. all looks the same.. if you have more than one open you hardly find what is what on first glance.
Turn the UI off for all your plugins.
And will se how your ears will help you to find the right slider quick.
We do not need Cockos to design the UI. We will.
What we need is the possibility to do so.
Or you wanna tell me that you prefer the right hand side UI over the UI on left...
Both are HELM synth only the one on right is how it will look if we follow the actual Cockos design pattern.
Good UI in program like this, any program is complete must!
Last edited by 2046; 03-14-2019 at 01:59 PM.
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03-14-2019, 02:50 PM
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#43
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2046
I don't get it why are people against good looking UI.
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Great that we finally have someone who is entitled to define what exactly "good" is, and who is able to decide that look is more important than audio features, stability, compatibility, and other uninteresting stuff
-Michael
Last edited by mschnell; 03-14-2019 at 11:10 PM.
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03-14-2019, 02:54 PM
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#44
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2046
Good UI in program like this, any program is complete must!
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This is an example of a good UI? OMG.
Other then that I also don't understand why folks don't like good UI. Though my complaints about the built-in plugins isn't about not being shiny. I don't like them because of ...
* inconsistentent layout (eg position of meter strips, buttons, etc)
* inconsistent design (no WALTER or other Reaper theme support)
The current looks of the built-in plugins is unprofessional. It has the typical look of a UI "designed" by programmers. I must know, because I'm one (though most likely not so good as our revered Cockos heros).
Masi
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03-14-2019, 11:12 PM
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#45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Masi
It has the typical look of a UI "designed" by programmers.
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This is exactly what makes me perfectly happy.
Of course I do agree that theming support would not harm.
-Michael
Last edited by mschnell; 03-17-2019 at 06:25 AM.
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03-16-2019, 05:19 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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I like look of Reaper Plugins. I THINK theyre very simple lookin which makes work with them very effective.
Actually by optional disabling graphic visualisations you more focus by ear what happening with sound.
I dont like only manually writing values for readelay sync time instead of additionaly setting this by moving knob or something like that.
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Last edited by X-Tech; 03-16-2019 at 05:25 PM.
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03-16-2019, 06:06 PM
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#47
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It's like reaper plugs are under some weird middle eastern law that says they must never be equally as good as the good plugs, and they must be as plainly dressed as possible or be completely covered in non-descriptive garb.
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09-09-2020, 08:40 PM
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#48
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Masi
Who is the you? All we that want a change in the UI is that it fits better better visually with the rest of Reaper and looks a bit more pleasing to the eye. If looks were not important why do you think that Reaper has WALTER and folks created themes for it?
I'm really tired by getting told not to be fooled by the looks just because I believe in UXD (user experience design) done right. Both if the images shows how it should NOT be done.
Masi
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That ReaComp GUI design is brilliant. Love that. Capital R and C though is my only grumble. :-)
It would also be nice if there was the option to change to red, blue, yellow, orange, grey or black skins with green being the default. If all of the Reaper effects had that same design or look as your ReaComp one here I'd buzz off that and it'd get my vote.
What did you design that on may I ask?
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09-10-2020, 07:08 AM
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#50
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Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Colombia
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Some efforts to do it
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Originally Posted by Zeno
Thanks
Yes, this is generally possible and no super big coding effort.
At the moment I'm not planning anything like that, because I'm working hard on the graphics for the next update.
But if you or someone else would like to implement the graphics into the js plugins, I am of course available for a collaboration.
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The're some plugins that already have been tweaked and you can find them in reaper stash.
Zeno made a huge effort with LBX stripper, and some other people have done that with native JS plugins.
In stash you can find some GUI like the one i attach the 1175 compressor.
When I'm recording, mixing and editing I like to rely on colors and shapes, I don't want to read a whole line of parameter names but got directly to the point.
I like minimalism, but minimalism also means to be clear and specific and with some GUI-less plugins you cannot get that.
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09-10-2020, 07:47 AM
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#51
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Join Date: Nov 2016
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Originally Posted by camerondye
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Yeah, it's my goto EQ now that. I also sometimes use the Reason Rack Plug-in Channel EQ just on basses but that ReEQ is top drawer.
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09-10-2020, 10:35 AM
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#52
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Join Date: Nov 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dagamusik
The're some plugins that already have been tweaked and you can find them in reaper stash.
Zeno made a huge effort with LBX stripper, and some other people have done that with native JS plugins.
In stash you can find some GUI like the one i attach the 1175 compressor.
When I'm recording, mixing and editing I like to rely on colors and shapes, I don't want to read a whole line of parameter names but got directly to the point.
I like minimalism, but minimalism also means to be clear and specific and with some GUI-less plugins you cannot get that.
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Was LBX Stripper something that allowed you to make skins for Reaper plug-ins?
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09-10-2020, 02:01 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Colombia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stimulus
Was LBX Stripper something that allowed you to make skins for Reaper plug-ins?
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LBX is a reaper addon it works like a plugin container, check it:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=182233
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09-16-2020, 09:25 AM
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#54
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Human being with feelings
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LBX stripper takes up a lot of space, it wraps in an entire panel, and then all normal access to plugins will still result in standard plugins appearing too, it may work for some, but for most people its not an option (as a plugin wrapper)
Somebody could code a VST wrapper (has been done but no longer available mgui by asseca) to regui plugins, but that is less likely than the built in plugins getting a regui, which is not going to happen anytime soon, the developers have little interest in it.
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09-20-2020, 04:50 PM
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#55
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Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 251
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Yeah this lack of GUI in general for Reaper is a big issue for me (won't stop me using it) and needs addressing.
Adding a GUI to at least some native plug-ins especially ReaSynth (and also loads more features added to it at the same time) and ReaComp and Samplamatic for starters.
I also long for a really really decent Reaper default theme. The past default themes are not great imo and even using the Logic themes, FL Studio or Smooth themes there seem to be at least 1 part let's it down whether it be the audio clip graphics, midi editor or transport area up top. Have to have a look into Concept Six see how that fairs.
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09-20-2020, 08:15 PM
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#56
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Colombia
Posts: 165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stimulus
Yeah this lack of GUI in general for Reaper is a big issue for me (won't stop me using it) and needs addressing.
Adding a GUI to at least some native plug-ins especially ReaSynth (and also loads more features added to it at the same time) and ReaComp and Samplamatic for starters.
I also long for a really really decent Reaper default theme. The past default themes are not great imo and even using the Logic themes, FL Studio or Smooth themes there seem to be at least 1 part let's it down whether it be the audio clip graphics, midi editor or transport area up top. Have to have a look into Concept Six see how that fairs.
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Check my mod, this in the one I'm currently using:
https://stash.reaper.fm/theme/2601/N...reaperthemezip
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09-20-2020, 10:38 PM
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#57
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stimulus
I also long for a really really decent Reaper default theme.
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Themes are really really a decent matter of taste and that is why they are user-configurable.
-Michael
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12-14-2020, 03:44 AM
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#58
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dagamusik
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I'll have to have a look at that now. From the pics shown, looks better but the arranger window doesn't look great, no offence. I'll have to try it out now.
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