Multi Tool script for MIDI and automation editing

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by daniellumertz

When using the multitool and MIDI item with Ignore Tempo etc... it can bug

Thanks for the report! I've just uploaded v6.20 that should fix the bug:
Changelog:
+ NEW: In envelope mode, automatically add edge points when using razor areas.
+ FIXED: In MIDI mode, calculation of source length when set to "Ignore project tempo".

[daniellumertz]

So nice to see you already upgrading it to use with razor edit thanks Julian as always, you are awesome !

[mozart999uk]

Is there a way, using the multi tool in the editor. to move all selected points or notes left right up down without distorting them?

At the moment I have to come out of the script, move them using a modifier and left drag and then run the script again ....

[daniellumertz]

this is a silly question, so maybe I didn't understood you.

why not click and drag then?

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by daniellumertz

this is a silly question, so maybe I didn't understood you.

why not click and drag then?

When I do that with the multi tool script running it warps them rather than moves them intact

[daniellumertz]

I mean outside the script this is the default behaviour

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by mozart999uk

Is there a way, using the multi tool in the editor. to move all selected points or notes left right up down without distorting them?

At the moment I have to come out of the script, move them using a modifier and left drag and then run the script again ....

Originally, the script did not include left-right drag because, as Daniel pointed out, that is already a native function.

However, since other users have also asked for a drag feature, recent versions allow you to switch between "one-sided stretch" and "drag both ends" by clicking the right mouse button while stretching/dragging. In general, clicking the right mouse button switches (most of) the script's functions between "one-sided" and "two-sided" modes.

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by juliansader

Originally, the script did not include left-right drag because, as Daniel pointed out, that is already a native function.

However, since other users have also asked for a drag feature, recent versions allow you to switch between "one-sided stretch" and "drag both ends" by clicking the right mouse button while stretching/dragging. In general, clicking the right mouse button switches (most of) the script's functions between "one-sided" and "two-sided" modes.

Thanks for your reply. I didn't have notifications on so I missed it!

Can you just explain how the right click option works?

If I right click after running the script, I get options for "zone color" and "zone size"....

[GeneralMidi]

Does anyone know if Julian's scripts, or anyone else's that compresses/expands velocity and cc data could be used on the tempo map? If not, is this something that could be done?

I have tempo mapped a midi file (live performance) using another midi file where I tapped the beat. I just want to smooth out the tempo map. It should still have the minor tempo fluctuations from the performance, but just want to tone it down a little (compress)

So I wondered if one of these amazing scripts could be applied to the tempo map?

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by mozart999uk

Thanks for your reply. I didn't have notifications on so I missed it!

Can you just explain how the right click option works?

If I right click after running the script, I get options for "zone color" and "zone size"....

Right-click while editing to toggle the function that you're using between single-sided and double-sided.

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by juliansader

Right-click while editing to toggle the function that you're using between single-sided and double-sided.

Thanks Julian.

I was looking for something with the vertical adjustments.

So for example dragging the top line up would also move the bottom line up rather than at the moment where dragging the top line up expands....

So all CC information moves up by the same amount....

In fact the same way dragging horizontal (double sided) works, but vertically

[juliansader]

The intention with the Multi Tool was not to create an all-purpose CC editing/drawing environment, but rather to complement the existing native mouse modifier functions.

(The fact that the Multi Tool includes undo/redo buttons may give the impression that users are supposed to keep the Multi Tool open for long periods and do all their editing inside it, but that was not the intention.)

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by juliansader

The intention with the Multi Tool was not to create an all-purpose CC editing/drawing environment, but rather to complement the existing native mouse modifier functions.

(The fact that the Multi Tool includes undo/redo buttons may give the impression that users are supposed to keep the Multi Tool open for long periods and do all their editing inside it, but that was not the intention.)

Thanks for explaining :-)

I appreciate what your saying. Do you think it would be possible to include the function? I find myself using this a lot and constantly alternating between the script and the native function slows my workflow down. I write for TV and with deadlines, I'm always looking for something that speeds my workflow :-)

[daniellumertz]

Originally Posted by mozart999uk

Thanks for explaining :-)

I appreciate what your saying. Do you think it would be possible to include the function? I find myself using this a lot and constantly alternating between the script and the native function slows my workflow down. I write for TV and with deadlines, I'm always looking for something that speeds my workflow :-)

I really think if you keep the multi tool in an easy to acess shortcut it would't add any time to "switch" from native to the script actions.

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by daniellumertz

I really think if you keep the multi tool in an easy to acess shortcut it would't add any time to "switch" from native to the script actions.

I've it set up as a shortcut on my xkeys.

It's just an extra keypress / movement that's all.

I do so much editing of midi cc (massive orchestral templates with loads of CCs for each instrument) that any simplifying I can do helps with RSI / time etc :-)

If it's too much trouble for Julian then no worries :-) I thought maybe as he'd introduced it for horizontal movement that vertical might not be too much hassle.....

[juliansader]

I've added a Move function to v6.30 of the Multi Tool.

[_Stevie_]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Thonex]

Originally Posted by juliansader

I've added a Move function to v6.30 of the Multi Tool.

Awesomeness!!

Thanks for all your amazing work!

Cheers,

Andrew K

[_Stevie_]

Yes, thanks so much. You are my personal MIDI hero.

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by juliansader

I've added a Move function to v6.30 of the Multi Tool.

Awesome thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!

[gxray]

Has anyone done a video on "Script: js_Mouse editing - Multi tool.lua", or know of one?

I've been experimenting with it, and reading the notes in the script comments, but there's so much functionality that I'm having a hard time trying to figure out everything you can do with it and typical workflows.

Not sure I'm able to use it to it's full potential.

[juliansader]

Unfortunately, I am not aware of any video on this script.

However, I don't think that the Multi Tool has any particular workflow. It is simply a bunch of functions intended to complement REAPER's native mouse modifier functions, and also to have a similar (or little better) user experience as these native functions. You can use it with exactly the same workflow as the native functions.

* To run a native mouse modifier function such as "Arpeggiate notes", you hold Ctrl/Shift/Alt, press the mouse button, and move the mouse around.
* To run a Multi tool function such as "Warp", you hold the shortcut key, press the mouse button, and move the mouse around.

The Multi Tool functions have some extra controls that you can access through the mousewheel and the middle and right mouse buttons (and you have the options to click and release the shortcut key and/or the left mouse button instead of holding them down, so that you can access these extra control more easily) but the workflow remains the same.

[gxray]

Originally Posted by juliansader

Unfortunately, I am not aware of any video on this script.

However, I don't think that the Multi Tool has any particular workflow. It is simply a bunch of functions intended to complement REAPER's native mouse modifier functions, and also to have a similar (or little better) user experience as these native functions. You can use it with exactly the same workflow as the native functions.

* To run a native mouse modifier function such as "Arpeggiate notes", you hold Ctrl/Shift/Alt, press the mouse button, and move the mouse around.
* To run a Multi tool function such as "Warp", you hold the shortcut key, press the mouse button, and move the mouse around.

The Multi Tool functions have some extra controls that you can access through the mousewheel and the middle and right mouse buttons (and you have the options to click and release the shortcut key and/or the left mouse button instead of holding them down, so that you can access these extra control more easily) but the workflow remains the same.

Got it -- I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Probably just need to continue experimenting with it to get the best grasp.

Thanks for all the work you do Julian, some stellar tools you've provided the community!

[reapero]

It would be nice to have a gif with all the functions indeed. I could try to do that but I am sure j am not using anything so..maybe some other user?

Thanks Julian for all of the brilliant scripts! And the extension!

[gxray]

Hey Julian,

I had a question about how much of an effort a feature would be.

When you use mousewheel to scroll for some functions in the multi-tool, there are these sort of "tension-points" where you can see it looks like the curve/tension of the current line is.

Sometimes it can be hard to tell where in your scroll behavior you are -- where that tension point is currently set to (because maybe the line isn't curved enough for it to be noticeable much).

Here's a GIF of what I mean -- you can see the "tension point" sort of move along the line as I scroll up and down, winding up finally on either end.

Would it possible to draw a little dot/visual indicator of this point to show you where the simulated tension is being placed, and if so, would it be a lot of math/effort?

Thank you =)

[_Stevie_]

That’s a brillant suggestion.

Also: is there a way to reset to a linear curve without using scroll wheel?

[mozart999uk]

OMG - I didn't even know you could use the scroll wheel to do this!!!!!!!!! Amazing. What great scripts these are.

Are there any video tutorials anywhere?

If not, paging Kenny......

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

Also: is there a way to reset to a linear curve without using scroll wheel?

Not without the scrollwheel. However, it is easy to reset using the scrollwheel: if you do one long scroll towards the default (linear) curve, the curve should pause in the default position, preventing you from scrolling past it. So you should always be able to reset with one long scroll.

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by mozart999uk

OMG - I didn't even know you could use the scroll wheel to do this!!!!!!!!! Amazing. What great scripts these are.

Are there any video tutorials anywhere?

If not, paging Kenny......

Sadly, no video tutorial. However, the help documentation inside the script file is quite extensive. (If anything in the documentation is unclear, please let me know!)

The Multi Tool's functions can be controlled by the mouse while the script is running:

* Middle-click: Switches between a sine curve and a linear/power curve.

* Right-click: Switches the script mode between one-sided and two-sided (symmetrical).

* Mousewheel: Tweaks the smoothness/steepness of the curve. Slow, short scroll movements make little changes to the curve; long, fast scrolls make large changes.

[_Stevie_]

Originally Posted by juliansader

Not without the scrollwheel. However, it is easy to reset using the scrollwheel: if you do one long scroll towards the default (linear) curve, the curve should pause in the default position, preventing you from scrolling past it. So you should always be able to reset with one long scroll.

Ahh, thanks! I was never sure if that behavior is intended and resets the curve to a perfect linear one.
Thanks for clarifying!

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by juliansader

Sadly, no video tutorial. However, the help documentation inside the script file is quite extensive. (If anything in the documentation is unclear, please let me know!)

The Multi Tool's functions can be controlled by the mouse while the script is running:

* Middle-click: Switches between a sine curve and a linear/power curve.

* Right-click: Switches the script mode between one-sided and two-sided (symmetrical).

* Mousewheel: Tweaks the smoothness/steepness of the curve. Slow, short scroll movements make little changes to the curve; long, fast scrolls make large changes.

Great thanks! Very helpful :-)

[BryanChi]

Hi Julian, I've been using this script for a while and it's super helpful, thank you so much!!

Just wondering how come the yellow area in multi tool is defaulted to stretch and compress? I have to scroll the wheel every time to make it become arch and tilt. Is this the intended behavior, or did I accidentally do something that changed the default behavior?

Thanks!

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by BryanChi

Hi Julian, I've been using this script for a while and it's super helpful, thank you so much!!

Just wondering how come the yellow area in multi tool is defaulted to stretch and compress? I have to scroll the wheel every time to make it become arch and tilt. Is this the intended behavior, or did I accidentally do something that changed the default behavior?

Thanks!

Hi Bryan. That's the way it works by default here too.....

You're right it is an amazing script!

[BryanChi]

Originally Posted by mozart999uk

Hi Bryan. That's the way it works by default here too.....

You're right it is an amazing script!

Oh I see, ummmm wouldn't it make more sense if it's defaulted to arch and tilt? You'd use the orange area if you want to compress or expand

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by BryanChi

Oh I see, ummmm wouldn't it make more sense if it's defaulted to arch and tilt? You'd use the orange area if you want to compress or expand

Sorry I'm talking out of my ass. The yellow areas have a different icon than the orange compress and expand areas. It just seems that the acurve is erm...very flat initially until you use the scroll wheel to change the shape.....

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by juliansader

The Multi Tool has been updated to work across multiple track automation lanes.

To edit multiple lanes, either make razor selections across the lanes, or select AIs in each of the lanes.

The guide zones are only displayed in the lane under the mouse, but edits affect all lanes.

Sorry - being very dense. How are you doing the various selections in this gif? The first one I can't work out......is it a time selection?? and the second.....how do you make razor edit selections in envelope lanes? I can't find a mouse modifier for that.....

[daniellumertz]

By default is alt to make razor edit you can start in a envelope and end in another

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by daniellumertz

By default is alt to make razor edit you can start in a envelope and end in another

Thanks. Is this in mouse modifiers : "envelope lane: left drag"?

Mine is currently set to "draw pooled copy of automation item" . I've tried double clicking on that option but can't find any razor edit options there.......

[daniellumertz]

Arrange View > Right Drag !

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by daniellumertz

Arrange View > Right Drag !

Awesome thanks.

More finger mobility exercises :-)