v6.11+dev0608 - June 8 2020

[_Stevie_]

No Meo, it’s perfectly fine, since related to the current cycle.

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

# Mouse modifiers: do not move edit cursor when mouse click is mapped to action to paste at mouse [p=2300320]

[Meo-Ada Mespotine]

Ah, ok. My bad.

[_Stevie_]

All good

[Win Conway]

Originally Posted by mabian

v6.11+dev0608 - June 8 2020

• + Actions: fix playback to end of lengthened project when adjusting item rate via action
• + FX: fix drag/drop FX to screen locations directly above or below the category/folder list
• + Groups: modernize nomenclature
• + NINJAM import: fix timing issue with certain bpm/bpi changes
• + ReaScript: fix playback to end of lengthened project when adjusting item position/length via SetMediaItemInfo()
• + Snap: do not snap time/loop selections to edit cursor/time selection that would make a zero-length selection
• # Item solo: expand/rename solo actions [p=2299939]
• # Item solo: improve API for accessing solo state
• # Localization: allow localizing FX browser "Chain" prefix [p=2146660]
• # Localization: fix BPM-related combo box in Preferences Video/Import [p=2296484]

This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.

Changelog - Pre-Releases

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@justin
Wouldn't the group renaming have been more unified with Reaper in general if it were called Parent/Child ?
Just a thought anyway.

[EvilDragon]

That is actually a lot better than leader/follower. Leader/follower has a connotation to cults...

[SmajjL]

Ahh screw it! give them real names like Rambo and Bambi alt, r2d2 , c3po
*can't believe i said that*
Atleast ED is starring at me the right way

[_Stevie_]

Love parent and child!

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

Love parent and child!

Parents and children are okay, but not in audio. There must be something unrelated to people relations.

[_Stevie_]

Ermm, we already have parent and child tracks in REAPER?

[Win Conway]

Originally Posted by vitalker

Parents and children are okay, but not in audio. There must be something unrelated to people relations.

This is a joke, right ?
I will forgive you if not, because I would have to assume you are not English language first and foremost.
Not only is parent/child already used in Reaper, but it is a relational term, not a personal term, go read the definition of the term, yes it can be used as a personal term, but only in a relational sense, and never ever could be seen as offensive.

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

Ermm, we already have parent and child tracks in REAPER?

Now we have really a bunch of names for different things.

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by gpunk_w

This is a joke, right ?
I will forgive you if not, because I would have to assume you are not English language first and foremost.
Not only is parent/child already used in Reaper, but it is a relational term, not a personal term, go read the definition of the term, yes it can be used as a personal term, but only in a relational sense, and never ever could be seen as offensive.

I don't know really. I will understand anything, I mean at least it's really easy to distinguish one word from another. Maybe it was kind of a joke. It was easy to understand when it was master/slave, lead/follow same. I would also understand what is going on with parent/child. In my native language it would be rather lead/follow than parent/child.

[schwa]

We considered parent/child, but we thought it would be confusing given that we already have parent and child tracks. You could end up with a folder parent that is a vca child of a folder child that is a vca parent. Keeping the terminology distinct seemed like a better way to go.

[Win Conway]

In any parent child relationship, the parent instructs the child what to do, which is exactly what is happening here in the groups.
So for instance a parent company will tell its child companies, this is our new group policy, this is so prevelent that parent companies generally take on the name group (music group etc etc) and that brings us nicely full cycle back to groups

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by schwa

Keeping the terminology distinct seemed like a better way to go.

Agree.

[Win Conway]

My comment was for vitalker, but I disagree with schwa on this anyway, a unified naming isnt confusing, it just shows that one thing is dominant over the other, so child audio always goes to parent, parent always controls child etc etc
With one of the main complaints about Reaper being the overwhelming amount of stuff, unification of a few things could certainly simplify some of that.

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by gpunk_w

So for instance a parent company will tell its child companies, this is our new group policy, this is so prevelent that parent companies generally take on the name group (music group etc etc) and that brings us nicely full cycle back to groups

So maybe head/main and subsidiary;
principal and agent?

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by gpunk_w

In any parent child relationship, the parent instructs the child what to do, which is exactly what is happening here in the groups.

Yeah, thanks. I already knew it. In my language we call it mother and daughter. Actually it's quite logical, that children adopt/imitate parents' habits.

[EvilDragon]

Originally Posted by schwa

We considered parent/child, but we thought it would be confusing given that we already have parent and child tracks. You could end up with a folder parent that is a vca child of a folder child that is a vca parent. Keeping the terminology distinct seemed like a better way to go.

I'm in agreement with gpunk here.

[akademie]

Please stop already changing names for everything.

And schwa is right that parent/child is already used (standardized) for something that is quite different than master/slave/lead/follow functionality/behavior.

I DON'T WANT to have parent/child nomenclature for VCA behavior, if you really need change then back to M/S.

[Reno.thestraws]

Not parent/children please

It's already use for folders tracks

If you want to change again, make it simply Master/Follower

at least, only one term is changing

by the way, if you want to make politically correct nomenclature, remember that the software Name is REAPER and that the logo is a scythe

[akademie]

I still don't understand why the Master/Slave was not changed just simply to Master/Servant?

[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

That is actually a lot better than leader/follower. Leader/follower has a connotation to cults...

Just to be clear. It's NOT Leader/Follower. Those are nouns.

The wording is Lead/Follow. Those are verbs. As in what the faders are doing.

Unlike in a cult, there is no leader and no follower. Just a description of what they're doing.

[Meo-Ada Mespotine]

Originally Posted by akademie

I still don't understand why the Master/Slave was not changed just simply to Master/Servant?

I suppose the devs aren't Depeche Mode fans

[STOP]

Master/Submaster.

[akademie]

Originally Posted by Meo-Ada Mespotine

I suppose the devs aren't Depeche Mode fans

Probably, unfortunately.

EDIT: Because they could name the next release 'Black Celebration"