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05-14-2020, 12:12 PM
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#6921
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lb0
Are you sure it was the version after this one that was a problem.
Thing is - there's thousands of lines of code difference between that one and the latest - and I really need to narrow it down as I've no way of trying to replicate the error...
Otherwise - one option is to revert to that working version and make the months worth of changes again (slowly) - and hopefully spotting the bug in the process. :| Not something I want to do - and we'd lose all the latest changes... Gahhh - hoping to avoid this - but it depends if I can spot anything wrong in those thousands code changes/additions...
So the bug appears to be completely random? Not as the result of clicking on anything (controls etc) or changing track or anything else?
You say it occurred mostly in EDIT mode - but is that because you spend most time in EDIT mode do you think? It also has happened in DM mode? (I'm assuming it's the same bug of course)
The best thing to be would work out exactly what version of the script the bug was introduced in... This would help out massively.
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Hmm... no, I'm not sure about anything :/
I'll try to narrow it down further. Can I just exchange the script files to test the versions or do I have to consider something else?
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05-14-2020, 12:23 PM
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#6922
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeno
Hmm... no, I'm not sure about anything :/
I'll try to narrow it down further. Can I just exchange the script files to test the versions or do I have to consider something else?
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Thanks - I'll be going through the code changes with a fine toothed comb - but there's a lot since that known stable version and the latest...
Just back up the resources folder as a safety precaution. Going back to an older version shouldn't generally be a problem - but if any settings or other saved data have been introduced - these may be lost.
And of course some strips may not work correctly if they use newer features.
So best to back it all up - and then swap back when you go back to the latest version.
Last edited by lb0; 05-14-2020 at 01:47 PM.
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05-15-2020, 07:58 PM
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#6923
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 182
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Hi everyone, really want to get into using this - easily one of the most interesting things i have seen for Reaper.
Is there a knowledge base for this? There are so many things i want to do but i dont really know where to start or where to turn if i get lost.
I would love to use MMultiAnalyzer as i have seen others do. I have a set up where i have fixed busses with MMultianalyzer on...so thats fin
But then i have tracks within folders and i use playlists with those (which change plugins on track)
Also curious if anything can be done with embedded Reaper FX
Really Excited to get into this. I have been searching different solutions for mixing - Waves SSL MixHub, Softube Console 1, Neutron, IIEQ and others...but this looks like it will be just so much better and more integrated.
Will most certainly make a donation when i get all this up and running, I am very impressedby what i have seen thus far.
David
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05-16-2020, 04:47 AM
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#6924
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Carlyon
Hi everyone, really want to get into using this - easily one of the most interesting things i have seen for Reaper.
Is there a knowledge base for this? There are so many things i want to do but i dont really know where to start or where to turn if i get lost.
I would love to use MMultiAnalyzer as i have seen others do. I have a set up where i have fixed busses with MMultianalyzer on...so thats fin
But then i have tracks within folders and i use playlists with those (which change plugins on track)
Also curious if anything can be done with embedded Reaper FX
Really Excited to get into this. I have been searching different solutions for mixing - Waves SSL MixHub, Softube Console 1, Neutron, IIEQ and others...but this looks like it will be just so much better and more integrated.
Will most certainly make a donation when i get all this up and running, I am very impressedby what i have seen thus far.
David
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Hi David,
If you mean you want to use MMultiAnalyzer and have the analyzer display actually appear in a strip - that's not possible. Only automatable parameters from an fx plugin can be added to a strip (usually as knobs/sliders and buttons). Some simple metering can be added but it depends on the plugin (the advantage here of JSFX is you can add things if they aren't already available - VST you cannot do this) - and it's never going to be quite as smooth as in the plugin GUI (close enough for me though).
The analyzer that you might have seen in the videos is actually a hack to display an edited version of the JSFX gfx_analyzer over the top of the Stripper GUI (which I made work with multiple input channels).
The main advantage of Stripper used in this manner is to be able to view plugin controls how you want in an ableton style scrollable strip (minus analyzers and super fancy displays).
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05-16-2020, 10:05 AM
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#6925
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 182
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lb0
Hi David,
If you mean you want to use MMultiAnalyzer and have the analyzer display actually appear in a strip - that's not possible. Only automatable parameters from an fx plugin can be added to a strip (usually as knobs/sliders and buttons). Some simple metering can be added but it depends on the plugin (the advantage here of JSFX is you can add things if they aren't already available - VST you cannot do this) - and it's never going to be quite as smooth as in the plugin GUI (close enough for me though).
The analyzer that you might have seen in the videos is actually a hack to display an edited version of the JSFX gfx_analyzer over the top of the Stripper GUI (which I made work with multiple input channels).
The main advantage of Stripper used in this manner is to be able to view plugin controls how you want in an ableton style scrollable strip (minus analyzers and super fancy displays).
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Yes i think it was on your youtube channel? You were able to look at the spectrum analyzers of different ghroups. Is this difficult to set up?
It is not the end of the world as i have a shortcut that can bring up the Melda plug, but i really liked the look of that setup you had.
You also had a mixer too, is that hard to set up?
Sorry i am completely new to this, sure i will pick it up pretty quick, but know nothing at the moment.
Was this done in a different mode than 'dynamic?'
Cheers again!
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05-16-2020, 10:30 AM
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#6926
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Carlyon
Yes i think it was on your youtube channel? You were able to look at the spectrum analyzers of different ghroups. Is this difficult to set up?
It is not the end of the world as i have a shortcut that can bring up the Melda plug, but i really liked the look of that setup you had.
You also had a mixer too, is that hard to set up?
Sorry i am completely new to this, sure i will pick it up pretty quick, but know nothing at the moment.
Was this done in a different mode than 'dynamic?'
Cheers again!
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The mixer, action buttons and analyzers are all built into dynamic mode. The only additional thing you need to set up is the analyzers - which need to be placed in the reaper Effects folder, and then the Analyzer action needs to be loaded and assigned (which it will do when you first try to show the analyzer within the DM mixer).
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05-16-2020, 01:46 PM
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#6927
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RJHollins
trying to figure out ...
Making a STRIP for AB_LM from TBPro. 2 plugins.
There are LINK ID values that tie the 2 plugins to communicate with each other.
Currently have a KNOB assigned to those LINK parameters.
Since they always work in pairs ... I did a MACRO, and Linked the 2 Knobs.
Will HIDE the original knobs, and use only the Macro knob.
The Link channels are INTEGER ... but I can't seem to set the MACRO to display
an Integer Value.
What I don't understand ... the JS version of AB works as expected. I can Link both parameters a the 2 plugs, and adjust their Channels together.
Can't figure out how to do this with the TBPro version.
How to do that ?
Thanks.
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just a mini bump ... as other's had posted their issue ..
basically, looking to see if a Macro can be forced to an Integer display format for the above situation?
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05-16-2020, 02:02 PM
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#6928
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RJHollins
just a mini bump ... as other's had posted their issue ..
basically, looking to see if a Macro can be forced to an Integer display format for the above situation?
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Sorry - forgot to reply to this.
Currently not directly.
But you can make the macro control a Cycle Control - which you'd have to set up manually - so add each step in turn - set the value and then rename it to show the LinkID value.
Just tested quickly and this seems to work.
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05-16-2020, 04:58 PM
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#6929
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lb0
Sorry - forgot to reply to this.
Currently not directly.
But you can make the macro control a Cycle Control - which you'd have to set up manually - so add each step in turn - set the value and then rename it to show the LinkID value.
Just tested quickly and this seems to work.
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hmmm ... ok
I'll try and see how this will work. The LINK ID are for the pair of Channels
that AB_LM communicate in sync.
From what I can tell ... it can handle 256 Channels [IDs]. That's a lot of hand editing :|
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05-16-2020, 05:11 PM
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#6930
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RJHollins
hmmm ... ok
I'll try and see how this will work. The LINK ID are for the pair of Channels
that AB_LM communicate in sync.
From what I can tell ... it can handle 256 Channels [IDs]. That's a lot of hand editing :|
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Ah - the version I had goes up to 31 - so easier to do.
I'll have a think. Maybe I can make the Macro control display (optionally) one of the assigned parameter's value instead.
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05-16-2020, 05:29 PM
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#6931
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lb0
Ah - the version I had goes up to 31 - so easier to do.
I'll have a think. Maybe I can make the Macro control display (optionally) one of the assigned parameter's value instead.
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ok ... playing with this ...
I tried an overlay of a Macro KNOB below, with a METER display of the Knob parameter.
Using the secondary options panel, I set Click-through, and different combos of
By-Pass BG Names, values, etc ... randomly testing.
When overlaying the 2 controls, I can incrementally change channels [controlling both plugins .... however, I'm getting a lot of flickering when I change channel values. It's working ... but the display is not clean when making the change.
pretty close.
Not sure what settings I should use to make this clean.
did any of that make sense ??!!
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05-16-2020, 05:33 PM
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#6932
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,167
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Ah .... I GOT IT !!!!
I went back and looked at my original JS AB strip ... where I had this all working.
With the 2 control overlay, I set the secondary controls to the way that one worked ...
and sure 'nuff ... I have a meter Box that I can slide through the Channels values cleanly ...
controlling BOTH plugin parameters in Sync.
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05-16-2020, 05:40 PM
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#6933
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lb0
Maybe I can make the Macro control display (optionally) one of the assigned parameter's value instead.
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That still might be a very handy option. It may make for a cleaner assembly of a Strip.
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05-16-2020, 06:38 PM
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#6934
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 610
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Is it possible to use LBX stripper like Helgoboss Playtime, Ableton Session view or Logic Pro X 10.5 Live Loops?
- Use Take selector like session clips and trigger those takes on next beat or start of next measure
- Midi Map those takes to devices like launchpad, Push2, Akai Apc and trigger or record takes from those devices.
Last edited by mehmethan; 05-16-2020 at 06:55 PM.
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05-16-2020, 07:01 PM
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#6935
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,167
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A feature I keep forgetting to ask ...
Stripper in Edit Mode.
Is there a way to Group ALL GUI parameter controls we add, as well as the Graphics we adorn with into a single, moveable Group of stuff ?
Last edited by RJHollins; 05-16-2020 at 07:15 PM.
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05-17-2020, 02:50 AM
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#6936
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mehmethan
Is it possible to use LBX stripper like Helgoboss Playtime, Ableton Session view or Logic Pro X 10.5 Live Loops?
- Use Take selector like session clips and trigger those takes on next beat or start of next measure
- Midi Map those takes to devices like launchpad, Push2, Akai Apc and trigger or record takes from those devices.
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I guess in a way. Timbralzoom is the expert here. But currently triggering on the next bar/beat or whatever - isn't currently implemented.
I've not really thought about using it like this.
The main issue though would be timing. Lua is not sample accurate - so it would be near impossible to get the items changed at exactly the correct point - so I would say it would never be as good as using something like Playtime. Probably not worth going the extra mile to add code to use it like this due to the timing issue.
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05-17-2020, 02:51 AM
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#6937
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RJHollins
That still might be a very handy option. It may make for a cleaner assembly of a Strip.
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Agreed.
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05-17-2020, 02:58 AM
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#6938
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RJHollins
A feature I keep forgetting to ask ...
Stripper in Edit Mode.
Is there a way to Group ALL GUI parameter controls we add, as well as the Graphics we adorn with into a single, moveable Group of stuff ?
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You can - in FX or TRACK edit - hold shift and lasso all the items you want to group (note - you need at least one control selected before any graphics can be selected).
Then right-click menu - Group.
Note - Doing this to any controls in a switcher - will remove those controls from the switcher. As any controls added to a switcher are automatically grouped into that switcher page - so changing the grouping on those controls will actually detach them from the switcher page.
EDIT:
To then select the group controls - if you haven't got the easy group select option set in Settings (I never use this setting) - hold Shift while selecting one of the grouped controls (not graphics).
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05-17-2020, 09:43 AM
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#6939
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lb0
You can - in FX or TRACK edit - hold shift and lasso all the items you want to group (note - you need at least one control selected before any graphics can be selected).
Then right-click menu - Group.
Note - Doing this to any controls in a switcher - will remove those controls from the switcher. As any controls added to a switcher are automatically grouped into that switcher page - so changing the grouping on those controls will actually detach them from the switcher page.
EDIT:
To then select the group controls - if you haven't got the easy group select option set in Settings (I never use this setting) - hold Shift while selecting one of the grouped controls (not graphics).
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YES !! it's those little things in Life that bring a smile.
nice
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05-18-2020, 12:12 PM
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#6940
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Turkey/Istanbul
Posts: 1,820
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Controls & Graphics update 2020-05-18
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05-18-2020, 02:04 PM
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#6941
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbralzoom
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always appreciated !
just wondering ... is there a 3-way toggle switch in the collection ?
I have a parameter with 3 states to map.
thanks again !
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05-18-2020, 02:39 PM
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#6942
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Turkey/Istanbul
Posts: 1,820
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i believe only this buttons has 3x state
pic:
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05-18-2020, 02:56 PM
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#6943
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,167
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It does have 3 states ...
I have a 3-way toggle switch back in my archives [from another era]
it was one of those 3 position throw toggle switches ...
oh well ... that'll be a search ...
regardless
Thanks for posting the new Collection !
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05-19-2020, 05:47 PM
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#6944
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Turkey/Istanbul
Posts: 1,820
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a short! story
i open two strips in two separate tracks,
then i decided to merge them in to the same track
strip that i want to move has two subsets
subset 1 for full controls
subset 2 for randomize the selected controls
this strip also has a Randomize button and
a Fixed Snapshot Control button to quick reset..
-i reload this strip via "Alt"
from browser to the track that i want to merge the strips,
-and select the old track and Linked the strips,
-then i just copied plugin to "the merge" track,
-then in the Edit mode just drag drop the plugin over the controls,
-then recaptured snapshots in to the new ones,
Q.1 is this legit?
only thing..
that Randomize and Fixed Snapshot Control buttons,
they were working with no problem but,
shows Red Dot in the Edit Mode/Strip page ..
Q. 2 is this is expected?
pic:
btw.
i just re-dragged them to the Grid,
after save/load the Strip, old ones lost the connections .. new ones OK.
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05-21-2020, 06:21 AM
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#6945
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Turkey/Istanbul
Posts: 1,820
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i guess would useful in some use cases
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05-21-2020, 06:29 AM
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#6946
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbralzoom
i guess would useful in some use cases
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Hmmm. Maybe - I never ever use them myself.
And in answer to your short story in the post above - did it all work out well in the end - if so - I guess it's legit.
It sounds about right though - the Snapshot and Randomize controls can both only access the current track's snapshot data - but loading with Alt and dropping the fx onto a different track should be ok if the snapshots are loaded as part of the strip. So maybe there is confusion here.
But manually copying the snapshot data should be ok as a fix.
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05-21-2020, 07:10 AM
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#6947
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Turkey/Istanbul
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got it! Thank you!
one more cosmetic Q.
is there is a new settings or something i miss?
Save Strip
seems puts an empty image with the strip's name and uses default LBX STRIP text
but doesn't capture the thumbnail.
(v.0192)
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05-21-2020, 07:15 AM
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#6948
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbralzoom
got it! Thank you!
one more cosmetic Q.
is there is a new settings or something i miss?
Save Strip
seems puts an empty image with the strip's name and uses default LBX STRIP text
but doesn't capture the thumbnail.
(v.0192)
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Hmmm. Working ok here. I take it you're not using any unusual characters in the strip name?
EDIT:
Also the strip has to be visible on the screen for it to be captured properly.
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05-21-2020, 07:44 AM
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#6949
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Turkey/Istanbul
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hmmm .. i don't know,
i couldn't find anything .. is there is something strange i miss in the pic.?
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05-21-2020, 07:55 AM
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#6950
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbralzoom
hmmm .. i don't know,
i couldn't find anything .. is there is something strange i miss in the pic.?
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Odd. If you delete the png file and then resave the strip what happens?
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05-21-2020, 08:07 AM
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#6951
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Turkey/Istanbul
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still same .. anything more i can try/test it?
btw.
it could specific to my system,
if i am the only one with this
since i use mostly the manual thumbnails please just ignore.
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05-21-2020, 08:31 AM
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#6952
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbralzoom
still same .. anything more i can try/test it?
btw.
it could specific to my system,
if i am the only one with this
since i use mostly the manual thumbnails please just ignore.
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I'll look over the code to see why this might be when I next get the chance...
I assume you have the latest JS API installed?
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05-21-2020, 12:06 PM
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#6953
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 513
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hello i have little problem when i push 1 keybord boutton lbx add a lone a plugin JS: LBX ZenoMOD/LBX Plugins/Saturation LBX (ZenoMOD) Can you help me please ?
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05-21-2020, 12:15 PM
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#6954
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grandfougue
hello i have little problem when i push 1 keybord boutton lbx add a lone a plugin JS: LBX ZenoMOD/LBX Plugins/Saturation LBX (ZenoMOD) Can you help me please ?
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Hey Grandfouge,
Can you please explain what the problem is a bit more?
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05-21-2020, 01:18 PM
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#6955
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Turkey/Istanbul
Posts: 1,820
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lb0
I'll look over the code to see why this might be when I next get the chance...
I assume you have the latest JS API installed?
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really sorry for the off topic Q.
is it separate install?
if so how to download/ install / how to see is it updated?
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05-21-2020, 01:20 PM
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#6956
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 513
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When I press the 1 key on my computer lxb open this plugin alone there is something I do not understand
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05-21-2020, 01:28 PM
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#6957
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbralzoom
really sorry for the off topic Q.
is it separate install?
if so how to download/ install / how to see is it updated?
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JS API here:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=212174
look in REAPER/Userplugins/
for file:
reaper_js_ReaScriptAPI64.dll
Make sure it's up to date (download latest version and check timestamps? - or create a script with the code below in it). But if it used to work - and you've not updated or reinstalled anything - then maybe this is not the problem. Also - Stripper should tell you if the version you have is missing or too old. So please check - but I suspect not the issue.
Code:
reaper.ShowConsoleMsg(reaper.JS_ReaScriptAPI_Version())
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05-21-2020, 01:32 PM
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#6958
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 4,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grandfougue
When I press the 1 key on my computer lxb open this plugin alone there is something I do not understand
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Pressing Shift + number keys should insert the strip from FAVS that is in that numbered slot. So pressing Shift+1 - should insert the first strip that is in your FAVs folder in Strip Browser.
Is that plugin in the first slot in the FAVs folder?
If so...
Have you maybe got some sort of Shift lock on (not seen one of those for years - but it may still be trigger-able somehow)? What OS are you using?
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05-21-2020, 02:08 PM
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#6959
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Turkey/Istanbul
Posts: 1,820
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OH!
all must be up to date (dll shows 22-05-2020),
seems i have that link/repository in the ReaPack list already
Thank you so much!
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05-21-2020, 02:14 PM
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#6960
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 513
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Sorry i don't know why i had this problem but everything comes back on sory
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