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Old 11-13-2011, 04:37 AM   #1
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is this behavior wanted? i change the item volume with the new item knob or the old handle, and the volume fader in the item properties does not change accordingly. so basically there's two seperate volume controls which to me appears to be redundant.

has this always been the case?
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is this behavior wanted? i change the item volume with the new item knob or the old handle, and the volume fader in the item properties does not change accordingly. so basically there's two seperate volume controls which to me appears to be redundant.

has this always been the case?
Yes, this has always been the case. The volume in Item Properties is mainly for Normalizing.
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Old 11-13-2011, 04:47 AM   #3
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i see..

do you find this useful? i just can't really picture any scenario in which i'd need two controls. not that it bothers me, it just surprised me a bit. though on second thought, i never had the old handle come down when using the fader, so it's not so surprising after all.
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Old 11-13-2011, 04:50 AM   #4
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i see..

do you find this useful? i just can't really picture any scenario in which i'd need two controls. not that it bothers me, it just surprised me a bit. though on second thought, i never had the old handle come down when using the fader, so it's not so surprising after all.
No, I think I've used that fader like 3 times in 5 years or so since I don't like Normalizing.
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I hope you guys are not trying to suggest to get rid of this ?

I use this all the time (indirectly) when (batch) normalizing items to RMS with the SWS action which is applied to the item properties volume.
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:39 AM   #6
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The volume in the item properties is a per-take (there's always at least one "take" in each media item, so it doesn't matter if you've recorded/processed new takes explicitly) volume control, so there's no redundant volume controls.
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:58 AM   #7
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I think a horizontal fader is weird anyway.

I'd much prefer a vertical fader. I'm not making a mockup.
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Old 11-13-2011, 10:26 AM   #8
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Vertical fader, or a knob

And to satisfy tablet/touch users: a knob with a pop-up mini fader on touch. In other words, knobs with fader-like behavior.
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Old 11-13-2011, 10:40 AM   #9
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I hope you guys are not trying to suggest to get rid of this ?

I use this all the time (indirectly) when (batch) normalizing items to RMS with the SWS action which is applied to the item properties volume.
indeed it's a per take NOT item volume which is brilliant as reaper also gives you a overall trim control for all takes within the item and then even a per take volume envelope. yeah!

phew!

Reaper, at first it seems crazy and then later.. your the crazy one! lol
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Old 11-13-2011, 11:01 AM   #10
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Is there a way to numerically enter item (not take) volume, short of dragging the line up and down?
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:03 PM   #11
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Is there a way to numerically enter item (not take) volume, short of dragging the line up and down?
This is exactly what I came here wondering.
PT10 finally has clip gain and it can be entered numerically.

Truth is the main reason this is important to me is because sometimes I'm adjusting item volume on the topmost track and my mouse hits the top edge of my screen before I've reached the amount of gain I was after.

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