Old 04-22-2022, 10:36 AM   #1
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Hi, I am trying to customize a knob for the default theme.

I got to create a png file, a "stack" one, with 128 images of the knob in different angles and, after so many proffs and mistakes, I got it to show in reaper. It is for mcp pan knob.

Matter is it appears so small, I would need it would looks like 2 o 3 times greater. I read Walter documentation and pink/yellow lines pdf but I am not able to figure out how to do it.

Could you help, please?

I have used the png with the "mcp_pan_knob_stack.png" form. It works after a million of tests but the problem is it looks so small.

Any help will be welcomed.


PS: My knob is the red one, although a white circle appears behind it, I think if my knob get bigger then white circle wonīt be visible.
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Old 04-22-2022, 12:20 PM   #2
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How was your .png (knob) being exported\creatd?
width\height of 'cell of a knob' image in pixels?

More info on those would be extremely helpful!

Seems like you have used one of those small size stack images (about 14 pixel in width) used for Sends slots.
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Old 04-22-2022, 04:33 PM   #3
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Hi, I am trying to customize a knob for the default theme.
You need to set the size in your 'rtconfig.txt' file

Mine is set to 44
Here is part of my code:
set mcp.pan trackpanmode<4 [39 431 44 44 0 1 0 1]
1st# is how far it is from the left of the MCP
2nd# is how far down it is from the MCP
3rd & 4th # is your size (44w x44h)

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Old 04-23-2022, 01:12 AM   #4
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How was your .png (knob) being exported\creatd?
width\height of 'cell of a knob' image in pixels?

More info on those would be extremely helpful!

Seems like you have used one of those small size stack images (about 14 pixel in width) used for Sends slots.
Thanks for replying.

Size of cell is 80x80, the stack png file is 80x10240. I creatred it in Knobman, the web version because normal version it doesnīt work in mac now. I started from a built knob from its gallery and I altered it. It was not square so I tried pink lines but it was impossible for me to make it work, so I went Photoshop and added some empty part at sides so the unity cell was square, and that way I got it worked like a knob in reaper. But soooo small
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Old 04-23-2022, 01:36 AM   #5
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You need to set the size in your 'rtconfig.txt' file

Mine is set to 44
Here is part of my code:
set mcp.pan trackpanmode<4 [39 431 44 44 0 1 0 1]
1st# is how far it is from the left of the MCP
2nd# is how far down it is from the MCP
3rd & 4th # is your size (44w x44h)

Robert
Thanks a lot for that!

Anyway I have tried to do it and knob disappears when I change the 3th and 4th numbers...

I am not sure if I did it well, I have changed exactly one part of the rtconfig file adding 41 41 and 41 41. I attach a screenshot, what I altered was the last line you can see.

Any ideas?

PS: I can upload the theme file so as you could see it full, or anyone who could help.

Thanks again
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Old 04-23-2022, 02:44 AM   #6
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That looks about right, should work. That 'last line' is just a line wrap of the line before, perhaps check your text editor hasn't put a line break in?
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Old 04-23-2022, 03:31 AM   #7
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That looks about right, should work. That 'last line' is just a line wrap of the line before, perhaps check your text editor hasn't put a line break in?
Thanks for replying.

Maybe I am not understanding you right, but I think you are asking about if I had pressed Intro and that is why that last line is broken in two lines, yes?

It is just one line but I had to strech editor window because without doing it the screenshot was too much big for this forum and it didnīt allow me to post it, so I had to strecht editor but it is just on line. It is this:

set mcp.pan + [0 mcp.recinput{h}] trackpanmode>=4 trackpanmode==6 h<hide_pan_labels{x} [7 69 67 9 0 0 0 0] [7 75 67 9 0 0 0 0] [13 68 41 41 0 0 0 0] [30 68 41 41 0 0 0 0]

Anyway it does not work
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That should work, so yes I think you'd best post the theme.
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Old 04-23-2022, 11:24 AM   #9
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That should work, so yes I think you'd best post the theme.
ok, thanks, I am posting the file but I can not because forum says
"Exceeds your quota by 322.0 KB"

I compressed the .ReaperThemeZip file into a zip one and it is 1.5MB, and attachments management windows says that max size for zip files is 1.72MB but however it does not allow me to upload it...
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I am not able to upload the file so I have uploaded to wetransfer, here is the link:

https://we.tl/t-2XJibunt1u
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One more thing: I deleted every file into images folder containing the words "mcpan knob stack" so the only one file being pan knob stack was mine one. Otherwise my knob didnīt show
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Old 04-24-2022, 01:15 AM   #12
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OK, I've got that but the mcp.pan line wasn't changed. I changed it to:

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set mcp.pan + [0 mcp.recinput{h}] trackpanmode>=4 trackpanmode==6 h<hide_pan_labels{x} [7 69 67 9 0 0 0 0] [7 75 67 9 0 0 0 0] [13 68 41 41 0 0 0 0] [30 68 41 41 0 0 0 0]
...and there you go:



so I suspect you might be getting in a muddle regarding how you are saving your changes. Can you check that again?
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Old 04-24-2022, 01:22 PM   #13
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OK, I've got that but the mcp.pan line wasn't changed. I changed it to:

Code:
set mcp.pan + [0 mcp.recinput{h}] trackpanmode>=4 trackpanmode==6 h<hide_pan_labels{x} [7 69 67 9 0 0 0 0] [7 75 67 9 0 0 0 0] [13 68 41 41 0 0 0 0] [30 68 41 41 0 0 0 0]
...and there you go:



so I suspect you might be getting in a muddle regarding how you are saving your changes. Can you check that again?
Thanks so much,
I have tried it but it is the same size, not like your image...

Maybe I am not doing things well... For editing the theme I make a duplicated file of .reaperthemezip and then I add .zip to the file name os it opens as a zip, then I change the rtconfig file into the folder and then I create a new zip file and change its name to .reaperthemezip.

Probably not the most elegant way to do it, but I donīt know any other...
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Are you sure that you are changing the WALTER for the correct layout? Are you then saving the rtconfig file and refreshing the theme as explained here? Walk me through your process; its going to some little procedural thing like that that just needs clearing up.
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Are you sure that you are changing the WALTER for the correct layout? Are you then saving the rtconfig file and refreshing the theme as explained here? Walk me through your process; its going to some little procedural thing like that that just needs clearing up.
Thanks again, I got it, but I realizae it is much more hard than I thought, it is a big mess for me, because I have standard layout as I like but then small is not well meither rest, and master track pan gets a smaller knob... I guess it is a matter of learning deeper, I have no time to do it.

So I am very thanked for your help.

Any of you could do some custom tweaks for money?
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You also have a master pan as well, you need to both change the png and rtconfig edits on the master mixer section.

Just do your changes very slowly one thing at a time.

The theme I use no-longer looks like when I started using it.

It's going on 4 years now.


Doing this also allows you to see if the change you have made is what you really want and like, if not change it!

I started with WT Imperial and now it look like this



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Old 04-27-2022, 07:30 AM   #17
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You also have a master pan as well, you need to both change the png and rtconfig edits on the master mixer section.

Just do your changes very slowly one thing at a time.

The theme I use no-longer looks like when I started using it.

It's going on 4 years now.


Doing this also allows you to see if the change you have made is what you really want and like, if not change it!

I started with WT Imperial and now it look like this



Robert
Thanks, it looks great
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Old 05-24-2022, 07:01 PM   #18
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@babiuk, why 128 frames for the pan knob? Panning is 201 frames, no? 100 (%) each for Left or Right, and 1 for Center. That’s at least how I do it. I cannot say it always works perfectly however, sometimes there’s +/- 1 frame “drift”, from its actual position read in the tooltip. Would love to figure out why/how.

@rncwalker, slightly off topic, but I come across your screenshots from time to time. Looks wonderful. The “Sub Master” track with a speaker icon on it, you are accomplishing that as part of an image file, correct? Always been curious. Thank you!

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