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Old 09-25-2018, 07:15 AM   #1
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Default Native Linux plugins that work and sound good

I read the whole thread about native Linux plugins, specifically looking for some that can just be dumped into the .vst folder and will work right off the bat, with no additional bridging, converting, or wrapping needed.

I found links to several things in that thread, but not specific cool plugs that do not need any additional help to get working, or require you to compile them yourself, so I thought I'd start that thread here.

Here's three native Linux 64 bit plugins I found last night that all seem pretty useful. Just uncompress them, drop them into your .vst folder, and they work with no additional steps.

Mverb - Pretty decent native Linux 64 bit verb
https://github.com/DISTRHO/DPF-Plugi...linux64.tar.xz

Luftikus - A model of a vintage hardware EQ.
https://github.com/DISTRHO/DISTRHO-P...linux64.tar.xz

Dexed - A nice DX7 emulator.
https://github.com/DISTRHO/DISTRHO-P...linux64.tar.xz
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Airwindows plugins (freeware/donationware). Windows, Mac, Linux VST.

However you will want to learn what each plug-in is intended to do otherwise you might think some of them are bad. To learn what the plugins do, you will probably have to watch his YouTube videos for each one.
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:59 AM   #3
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Have you KXStudio repos installed you can do a search in terminal like this:

apt search vst (I think you should get some)

To bad all the calf plugins isn't in vst mode...yet but it works ok via Carla plugin-ish thing.

Oh, this one I stumble on the other day:
https://github.com/michaelwillis/dragonfly-reverb
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Old 09-25-2018, 03:31 PM   #4
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Linux Studio Plugins are available as Linux-native VSTs.

http://lsp-plug.in/
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u-he offers plugins for linux. I've never tried them and they're in beta but worth a look.

https://www.u-he.com/downloads/linux/beta/6824/

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Went looking for a native 64 bit Linux flanger, phaser, and chorus, but after looking and coming up dry, I installed the trusty BlueCat plugin collection for Windows and bridged them with LinVST.
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This notch filter is a native 64 bit Linux plug that works just copying the .so file into your .vst folder.

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/not...-teragon-audio

They describe it as a DJ tool for removing vocals, but I would use it for scooping audio in one track to make space for another, and it appears to be functional in that respect.
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u-he offers plugins for linux. I've never tried them and they're in beta but worth a look.

https://www.u-he.com/downloads/linux/beta/6824/

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I tried a couple of their freebee synths, and they seem to be solid.
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Went looking for a native 64 bit Linux flanger, phaser, and chorus, but after looking and coming up dry, I installed the trusty BlueCat plugin collection for Windows and bridged them with LinVST.
Be sure to check these JS plugins out:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=186554

There's a phaser, and it's great. I like several of the other plugins too. Hopefully they all work in Linux.
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Be sure to check these JS plugins out:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=186554

There's a phaser, and it's great. I like several of the other plugins too. Hopefully they all work in Linux.
All the JS plugins work fine in Linux. I've just always thought the JS flanger/phaser/chorus plugins lacked some rich animation and movement of sound that I hear in others. Might be something with how the modulation is used for creating a stereo image or something.
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Did you try that phaser I linked to (Ripple)? It's not one of the included ones. It's quite different.

Check those plugins. It's worthwhile.
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Did you try that phaser I linked to (Ripple)? It's not one of the included ones. It's quite different.

Check those plugins. It's worthwhile.
Hmmm, I grabbed all the files here,

https://github.com/geraintluff/jsfx/...e/1.0.4/Ripple

put them into a folder, and moved it to the effects folder in REAPER's resource path. The plugin shows up in the list of plugins, but selecting it produces no GUI. Just a blank grey window.

I have no 3rd party add on libraries like SWS or anything else that doesn't install with REAPER natively. I like keeping REAPER totally stock so if something acts weird, I have fewer things to diagnose.
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https://u-he.com/products/uhbik/
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The Tracktion DAW Essentials collection is a nice set, though perhaps a bit overpriced. It's available as Linux VST.

https://www.tracktion.com/products/d...als-collection
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u-he offers plugins for linux. I've never tried them and they're in beta but worth a look.

https://www.u-he.com/downloads/linux/beta/6824/

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There are newer betas :

https://www.u-he.com/downloads/linux/beta/
https://www.u-he.com/downloads/linux/beta/7658/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UheOnLinux/
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Wink Vocal... tough to record try JS OZZIFIER plugin

Thumbs up for use on poor voices. I have had some AMAZING results. Worth a look.
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Rave Generator 2 (rompler for ravers)

https://blog.wavosaur.com/rave-gener...-in-the-house/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNgjHY6p4dg

Helm synth

https://tytel.org/helm/

https://youtu.be/fmb63KJKaLg

Helm was a KVR One-Synth-Challenge selection:

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=467516

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TAL has some nice free linux plugins
in the kxstudio repositories.

https://tal-software.com/

If you have kx repository added to a Synaptic package manager,
it has a search box, to find included vst etc.

If your distro does not have kx repository, once a month or so,
boot a Mint or Ubuntu or Debian live cd/dvd, enable the repo,
download what you will with synaptic,
and copy things to a usb stick etc

find them in /var/cache/apt/archives

The cut/paste instructions for installing the repo
are here:

http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories

After installing, hit the reload button on Synaptic,
to update the list of available items.

Synaptic uses:

https://youtu.be/8U38okBeMGQ

(I know this may be old to you,
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to find in 2019 and on...in case you wonder.)


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Teufelsberg Reverb plugin is great: http://www.balancemastering.com/blog...reverb-plugin/
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Hmmm, I grabbed all the files here,

https://github.com/geraintluff/jsfx/...e/1.0.4/Ripple

put them into a folder, and moved it to the effects folder in REAPER's resource path. The plugin shows up in the list of plugins, but selecting it produces no GUI. Just a blank grey window.

I have no 3rd party add on libraries like SWS or anything else that doesn't install with REAPER natively. I like keeping REAPER totally stock so if something acts weird, I have fewer things to diagnose.
I just got MX Linux installed today. Then I installed Reaper. Then I imported those JS plugins from my Windows install, and they work.

I can't say why it would work for me, but not you. I'm new to Linux so I could only guess.

Here's the path I have the files in (I checked, and they're the same files from that link):

/home/(myusername)/.config/REAPER/Effects/Geraint's JSFX/Delay/Ripple/

(The specific path was due to having the directory structure within the effects folder arranged by ReaPack.)
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I just got MX Linux installed today. Then I installed Reaper. Then I imported those JS plugins from my Windows install, and they work.

I can't say why it would work for me, but not you. I'm new to Linux so I could only guess.

Here's the path I have the files in (I checked, and they're the same files from that link):

/home/(myusername)/.config/REAPER/Effects/Geraint's JSFX/Delay/Ripple/

(The specific path was due to having the directory structure within the effects folder arranged by ReaPack.)
I went looking for Ripple again and found a .zip file that seems to have whatever was missing from the original place I downloaded it from. That is a pretty cool phaser too, thanks for making me try again to get a working copy of it.
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No problem! I know what it's like having to absorb a lot of new info when switching to Linux...since I'm currently doing that and probably will be for a while.

One mistake I made yesterday: I hadn't installed both required .deb files for the kxstudio repository, since the second required file is mentioned further down the page "if you're using a Debian version newer than (x)". D'oh! After that I was able to find the latest DrumGizmo VST plugin. The fun begins.
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Why has nobody ever mentioned the FANTASTIC soft synth ZynAddSubFX? Or have I just not seen it?

And, yes - everything by U-HE is great. Even though I firmly think there is a conceptual bug regarding the way the deal with the view presets in Presswerk, but they disagree. So I simply don't use the view presets at all and live with it.
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Why has nobody ever mentioned the FANTASTIC soft synth ZynAddSubFX? Or have I just not seen it?
I don't see it anywhere as a native Linux VST, and I'm not about to start compiling/building/whatever-it's-called.
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I don't see it anywhere as a native Linux VST, and I'm not about to start compiling/building/whatever-it's-called.
The new version is called Zyn Fusion and you can grab it as a VST. I was able to install it from the AUR.

http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/download.html
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The new version is called Zyn Fusion and you can grab it as a VST. I was able to install it from the AUR.

http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/download.html
Oh I see. I can't use AUR (I'm using MX Linux, Debian-based).

So now it's a paid plugin? I guess when they added a fancy GUI they decided to charge for it. I'll pass for now. I don't use synths that much. If I start going nuts with synths and feel like buying something though, I'll consider that first.
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Oh I see. I can't use AUR (I'm using MX Linux, Debian-based).

So now it's a paid plugin? I guess when they added a fancy GUI they decided to charge for it. I'll pass for now. I don't use synths that much. If I start going nuts with synths and feel like buying something though, I'll consider that first.
You can still download the source code for free and compile it yourself. Which I did. However, if ever Linux catches up enough to be a valid system for DAWs (i.e. with all the necessary tools available), I MIGHT consider using it for music production (not for mixing), and THEN I would certainly pay the fee.
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You can still download the source code for free and compile it yourself. Which I did. However, if ever Linux catches up enough to be a valid system for DAWs (i.e. with all the necessary tools available), I MIGHT consider using it for music production (not for mixing), and THEN I would certainly pay the fee.
I'm probably not about to start compiling stuff. I don't understand enough about it and I currently don't have the patience.

Linux is a valid system for DAW use. It is a bit slim on plugins at this point and also on audio card support but also it's a lot better than even a few years ago in those regards. If there's some particular thing in terms of software or hardware support that it doesn't currently have, which you want, I understand. But to say Linux is not a valid system for a DAW is a bit extreme. I'm guessing you want something like Kontakt to be available as a native Linux option?
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I'm probably not about to start compiling stuff. I don't understand enough about it and I currently don't have the patience.

Linux is a valid system for DAW use. It is a bit slim on plugins at this point and also on audio card support but also it's a lot better than even a few years ago in those regards. If there's some particular thing in terms of software or hardware support that it doesn't currently have, which you want, I understand. But to say Linux is not a valid system for a DAW is a bit extreme. I'm guessing you want something like Kontakt to be available as a native Linux option?
Linux is usable, if you record real instruments ONLY (and never need to do any drum replacement). But as soon as you need virtual instruments, it is almost 100% unusable, because there is virtually NOTHING available.

It's also 100% unusable if you need to do editing/restauration work.

For mixing it is somewhat usable - i.e. if the recorded material is perfect, you can do a decent job with the few tools/plugins it has (believe me, I have and use them all). But as soon as it needs editing/fixing (and that's the everyday situation), you are lost.

I'm a Linux lover from day one, and I would IMMEDIATELY get rid of Windows, if Linux was an alternative. But I'm afraid, even though you are right, when you say it has become a lot better, it still won't reach a level where we can start talking about using it for real every day work in my lifetime. I wish and hope to be proven wrong, but ...
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I'm probably not about to start compiling stuff. I don't understand enough about it and I currently don't have the patience.
I created a Dockerfile for that purpose, because on my Ubuntu 18.04 system most audio software fails to compile due to dependency conflicts. Still can't compile everything (or use everything that I compile that way due to shared object dependencies), but for ZynAddSubFX (i.e. the new version of it) it worked.
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Linux is usable, if you record real instruments ONLY (and never need to do any drum replacement). But as soon as you need virtual instruments, it is almost 100% unusable, because there is virtually NOTHING available.
I'm running Kontakt, EZ-Drummer, and other Windows virtual instruments using LinVST and able to use them at equal low latency to what I get in Windows.

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I'm running Kontakt, EZ-Drummer, and other Windows virtual instruments using LinVST and able to use them at equal low latency to what I get in Windows.


But that really makes no sense, does it. Why use Windows plugins (with all the Wine bridging hassle and instability) on Linux?

We are talking about native Linux tools here.
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I just looked up what a dockerfile is and I'd just assumed I'd be doing something like that if I were going to be issuing a bunch of commands in Terminal. The problem for me isn't issuing commands in sequence; it's a matter of not understanding what the commands are.

Anyway you're still making wide-sweeping generalizing statements. For drum "replacement" there's DrumGizmo. (You might not like the currently available kits for it, but I'll be adding DrumGizmo versions of these very soon.) I wouldn't consider ZynAddSubFX and a number of other Linux synths "nothing" either. Based on some things you said I bet you want some specific things available for Windows/Mac (Melodyne, Kontakt, etc.) and I understand that. I wasn't going to migrate to Linux until I knew there was a drum plugin which worked on a similar level to EZdrummer/Addictive Drums, so after Reaper being made a native Linux program, finding DrumGizmo (and some excellent samples) was my tipping point.

I also agree that using WINE-based solutions for plugins is acceptable. I won't need to do it, and I ultimately would prefer to avoid it anyway, but it's valid.

I'm not trying to take away your opinion. However consider where you are when you make your statements. If you want to get your point across and educate others--warn them away from Linux, even--being more articulate and using more objective language is a better idea.
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I think at the end of the day everybody has to build their own opinion anyway. Opinions are always subjective, and it also always depends on what you want to achieve.

What I do is impossible to do on Linux, that's a sad fact. Yes, there are some great soft synths (ZynAddSubFX, Dexed, the U-HE stuff, and more), and some DAWs are catching up (including REAPER). But that's not enough.

DrumGizmo ... well ... it's a nice project that deserves support, but it still has a looooooong way to go.

Anyway, to each their own.
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But that really makes no sense, does it. Why use Windows plugins (with all the Wine bridging hassle and instability) on Linux?

We are talking about native Linux tools here.
Well, for a moment there, we were talking about REAPER for Linux being unsuitable to use as a DAW due to no virtual instruments.

I started this thread looking for native Linux plugins, but I am currently having no problem using most of the same plugins I was using in Windows with bridging.

As for the "why use Windows plugins with all the hassle", there's not really much hassle, unless installing LinVST and running a convert process once is a big deal for you.

I want to be totally FREE of Microsoft's data mining, plus I want microcode that protects my CPU and machine against Spectre, which is never going to be available in Windows 7.

If I weren't able to do in REAPER for Linux what I was doing in REAPER for Windows, I would absolutely not use REAPER for Linux. In fact, my machine is setup for dual boot because I originally thought I would HAVE TO keep using Windows for REAPER, but now I'm re-thinking that line of logic, and even recently stole all the remaining 100GB from my Windows SSD partition to give to the Linux side of the house for more plugins.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:30 AM   #38
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I don't understand what audio editing problem Linux has?

I've edited a lot of drums (and other stuff) in reaper for linux with no more issues than I'd have in windows...

IMO the main drawbacks are the limited amount of native plugins and soundcard support.
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What I do is impossible to do on Linux
What _I_ do in linux is far more impossible to do in win/mac

than what _you_ do is impossible to do in linux.

Shockingly, few people give a rip, either way.
Over the years, I've seen plenty of blowhards
come into a linux forum, trash it, proclaim their
superiority, then walk away saying 'to each their own'.
With or without a plastic smily.

Try to contribute some useful knowledge from time to time,
rather than just shifting hot air.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:36 AM   #40
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We? WE??? bwahwwwhaaahaaawwwhahaaa

'I' is the shortest word, yet you mispelled it...badly mispelled it,
but that's what you get when looking in the mirror,
and perceiving a cheering crowd is looking back.
Quoting out of context and making it sound like I meant something I never said is poor style and not helpful in a discussion.

And, btw, where did I offend you? Or anybody else?

Try and accept other people's opinions and experiences! Nobody wants to take yours away from you.
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