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09-24-2019, 10:50 PM
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Your Update priorities in a DAW ?
If one had to prioritise updates what would you features would you keep on top of your list ? My list would be something like this -
1.midi and audio editing
2.Gui fixes
3.routing and automation.
4.mixer and output format options
5.video handling
6.plugin handling
7. Sheet and tablature extensions
8. Extra content like plugins and sounds.
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09-24-2019, 10:56 PM
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subprojects
I'm going with subproject enhancements and options. It's truly one of the best features of reaper but needs a ton of work because they're the pioneers on this feature. The closest thing is DP with chunks.
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09-25-2019, 03:48 AM
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Not the right place for this thread.
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09-25-2019, 09:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benf
Not the right place for this thread.
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Agree it's not the right place but happy to see subprojects mentioned as it's the main thing I'd like to see some improvement on too
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subproject FRs click here
note: don't search for my pseudonym on the web. The "musicbynumbers" you find is not me or the name I use for my own music.
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09-25-2019, 09:25 AM
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The ability to draw a box around things that are on a grid, and be able to copy/move/delete them in a sensible and functional manner like every other DAW in 2005. You know?
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09-25-2019, 09:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benf
Not the right place for this thread.
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that is true
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09-25-2019, 10:54 AM
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Haha, yes, this is not the right place.
But this is very true, also:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
The ability to draw a box around things that
are on a grid, and be able to copy/move/delete them in a sensible
and functional manner like every other DAW in 2005.
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09-25-2019, 10:57 AM
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I think this would go to general discussion... not here.
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09-25-2019, 12:11 PM
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And the thread title is utterly misleading obviously to hide that this is just a deliberately misplaced list of feature requests.
Really bad habit.
Admins please delete this thread completely.
-Michael
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09-25-2019, 12:18 PM
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The admins may gladly move it to the right place,
I read a post and accidentally posted it in the same sub forum.
Apologies to the readers who wen't thru a severe emotional trauma after reading
this post !
cheers
zook
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09-25-2019, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blumpy
I'm going with subproject enhancements and options. It's truly one of the best features of reaper but needs a ton of work because they're the pioneers on this feature. The closest thing is DP with chunks.
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The biggest thing to me is that you should be able to hear the main project audio (a rendering, even) and see the main project video while inside the subproject, otherwise what's the point?
For music projects, I see subprojects as a nice way to focus in on something cluttery or resource-heavy (vocal edits, effects busses) in isolation with the CPU fully dedicated, then when going back to the main project the subproject is a render and frees up all the resources.
For video projects, it'd be similar to DP where you have a bunch of cues all tied to the main Video timeline, and you enter each subproject (cue) where again you have totally dedicated resources and can clutter it up as much as you want, then return to the main project where each cue is just a render.
...also there would be 2 timelines -- the subproject which you can set the measure-1 start time however you like, and then the main project timeline which shows its place in the grand scheme timeline.
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09-25-2019, 02:53 PM
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Polish
Mainly I find Reaper lacks polish. Buckets of power, but a little chaotic.
Just iron out all the wrinkles. We already have stability and performance. The only feature I'm seriously missing is time-based and nonlinear MIDI items (2 features?).
There's also a lot of tedium in the way we have to go about certain customization (e.g organizing favorite fx folders and the main menus). But maybe that's partly my resistance to learning to script and the old ways are becoming obsolete.
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09-26-2019, 12:02 AM
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Trying to be funny by abusing this forum even more ???
-Michael
[Edit: Happily this thread has been moved to the appropriate subforum later...]
Last edited by mschnell; 10-02-2019 at 06:46 AM.
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09-26-2019, 06:02 AM
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bug fixing !
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09-26-2019, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
Trying to be funny by abusing this forum even more ???
-Michael
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hahahahahahah never lose an opportunity !
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09-26-2019, 04:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
The ability to draw a box around things that are on a grid, and be able to copy/move/delete them in a sensible and functional manner like every other DAW in 2005. You know?
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This, absolutely this. I don't need much else tbh.
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09-26-2019, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by puddi
This, absolutely this. I don't need much else tbh.
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What are you guys on about? Editing in Reaper is second to none.
Well Ok, so I haven't used another DAW besides Ableton since 2009...but editing arrangements in Ableton is still worse than lighting my toenails on fire.
Seriously though, where's the problem?
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09-26-2019, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foxAsteria
What are you guys on about? Editing in Reaper is second to none.
Well Ok, so I haven't used another DAW besides Ableton since 2009...but editing arrangements in Ableton is still worse than lighting my toenails on fire.
Seriously though, where's the problem?
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It's just lacking proper area selection. Ableton for example does it pretty well.
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09-26-2019, 06:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by puddi
It's just lacking proper area selection. Ableton for example does it pretty well.
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Ok fair enough, I've never actually seen it and never had a need for it, so can't compare in that department. I just find editing in Reaper to be perfect (of course only after years of feature additions and tweaking my config).
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09-26-2019, 06:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foxAsteria
Ok fair enough, I've never actually seen it and never had a need for it, so can't compare in that department. I just find editing in Reaper to be perfect (of course only after years of feature additions and tweaking my config).
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Yeah, well, there's a reason this script is so popular: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=219705
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09-26-2019, 06:47 PM
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Yea I've seen that. I'm sure it's a game-changer if I could even imagine when I'd ever want to use it. I'm in full support of magical people doing magical things though.
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09-26-2019, 08:48 PM
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For the music I make (which is Modern Pop), proper Area Selection would be the single Greatest thing that the devs could add. It would be used in literally every single possible editing scenario, and in a really profound way.
Everything from simply duplicating an area of stuff to another section of the project (Ableton, Cubase nail this), to traditional commonplace actions like wanting to edit multiple lanes of automation together at once (ProTools), is all negatively affected in Reaper because of no Area Selection. The "selecting time then selecting items" paradigm is so unbelievably unintuitive, doesn't even work properly for lanes that don't contain items, and is quite honestly astonishing to other producers who watch me work in Reaper... and I should add -- normally the reaction is one of Amazement at how incredible Reaper is, but I always end up getting nervous as soon as I have to start doing stuff that Area Selection is natural for (aka almost everything).
Just my honest 2 cents. Back 2 the grind!
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09-27-2019, 04:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
For the music I make (which is Modern Pop), proper Area Selection would be the single Greatest thing that the devs could add. It would be used in literally every single possible editing scenario, and in a really profound way.
Everything from simply duplicating an area of stuff to another section of the project (Ableton, Cubase nail this), to traditional commonplace actions like wanting to edit multiple lanes of automation together at once (ProTools), is all negatively affected in Reaper because of no Area Selection. The "selecting time then selecting items" paradigm is so unbelievably unintuitive, doesn't even work properly for lanes that don't contain items, and is quite honestly astonishing to other producers who watch me work in Reaper... and I should add -- normally the reaction is one of Amazement at how incredible Reaper is, but I always end up getting nervous as soon as I have to start doing stuff that Area Selection is natural for (aka almost everything).
Just my honest 2 cents. Back 2 the grind!
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
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09-28-2019, 09:20 AM
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Definately area selection and the ability to collapse-expand-rearrange the automation lanes of a track!
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09-28-2019, 10:18 AM
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Definetly area/range selection.
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09-30-2019, 09:26 AM
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Since now this is the "right" place I'd like to add:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
The ability to draw a box around things that are on a grid, and be able to copy/move/delete them in a sensible and functional manner ...
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This is just missing. Ferropop explains "the box" perspicuously:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
For the music I make (which is Modern Pop), proper Area Selection would be the single Greatest thing that the devs could add. It would be used in literally every single possible editing scenario, and in a really profound way.
Everything from simply duplicating an area of stuff to another section of the project (Ableton, Cubase nail this), to traditional commonplace actions like wanting to edit multiple lanes of automation together at once (ProTools), is all negatively affected in Reaper because of no Area Selection. The "selecting time then selecting items" paradigm is so unbelievably unintuitive, doesn't even work properly for lanes that don't contain items, and is quite honestly astonishing to other producers who watch me work in Reaper ...
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This is a matter of "repetitive structures": We need
1. to select an area - including all automation envelopes + items in this area.
2. to have a visuell representation of this area - a box.
3. to be able to copy and "pool-copy" this box. In order to create "repetitive parts".
You'll find a thorough disscussion is here.
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09-30-2019, 09:35 AM
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area selection
Let's take this thread somewhere else on the forum. It doesn't belong here but I'd really like to know more about the area selection issue some are discussing. I'm not even sure what the issue is...have I been missing a feature and never noticed?
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09-30-2019, 10:09 AM
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Area selection does not exist in reaper. It's been requested for quite long it seems
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09-30-2019, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blumpy
Let's take this thread somewhere else on the forum. It doesn't belong here but I'd really like to know more about the area selection issue some are discussing. I'm not even sure what the issue is...have I been missing a feature and never noticed?
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https://forums.cockos.com/showpost.p...48&postcount=1
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10-02-2019, 02:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zookthespook
1.midi .
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same here.
the midi/piano roll/cc is really not intuative and clumsy compare to others.
like someone just put it there but didn't thought in depth how to make it perfect or at least more intuative.
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10-02-2019, 06:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reflected
same here.
the midi/piano roll/cc is really not intuative and clumsy compare to others.
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Maybe you could elaborate a bit more!
Audio editing and midi editing is a universe as everythig you stated
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10-02-2019, 07:15 AM
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Also: What is "intuative"?
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10-02-2019, 07:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by enroe
Also: What is "intuative"?
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An incorrect spelling of intuitive? Means basically things just work the way you'd expect them to.
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10-02-2019, 03:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foxAsteria
Means basically things just work the way you'd expect them to.
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Who exactly is "you" ?
-Michael
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10-02-2019, 04:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
Who exactly is "you" ?
-Michael
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Uau so much philosophy !
-Redundant deeb
Last edited by deeb; 10-02-2019 at 04:25 PM.
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10-02-2019, 06:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
Who exactly is "you" ?
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You know, you. Or do you?
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10-02-2019, 06:08 PM
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My update priorities in the DAW has nothing to do with the DAW. It is to be more productive myself.
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10-02-2019, 06:49 PM
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For a major version update ie moving from 5.x t 6.x I'd like to see clarification and resolution of issues arising so far.
For example plugin messages getting hidden behind other windows is something that should be repaired. At times the only solution to that is to shut Reaper down - yet other manufacturers deal with it so presumably it is possible to cater for plugin messages - or any alert that has to be addressed for the program to continue - to come to the front so they can be dealt with.
The maybe some new features.
In other words make significant moves forward when the base is solid. But I don't think that fits with the development philosophy
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10-03-2019, 02:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by talustalus
My update priorities in the DAW has nothing to do with the DAW. It is to be more productive myself.
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I was testing my productivity and I'm much more productive in FLstudio because its piano roll and the workflow is really much faster and better than in reaper.
creating a melody / beat / sketch is 800% more intuitive and fun and super fast in FLSTUDIO than doing that in reaper.
however reaper is better for recording and audio arragment which is also important to me and I love that you can create actions and all of that.
I do like to use only Reaper because of this, but I feel much less inspired and productive when creating music with reaper because the flowwww always getting stuck because of reaper's sticky GUI especially in the piano roll area.
currently for me it is useful only for mixing and arragement.
Last edited by Reflected; 10-03-2019 at 02:36 PM.
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10-03-2019, 02:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddy
For example plugin messages getting hidden behind other windows is something that should be repaired.
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In the preferences you can choose "only one fx-window" and also
"only one midi-editor per project". Also you can choose that these
windows should be docked in one single window. Each of these
settings should solve your problem.
This is a good example that first everyone needs to adjust
Reaper to his specific needs for a start. After that you can
get to eligible feature requests.
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