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02-14-2020, 11:48 AM
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Post fader FX idea, possible?
If you had a volume plugin that read the fader value of the track, then just applied the same boost or cut, everything after it would essentially be post fader, is that possible?
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02-14-2020, 02:49 PM
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everything after it would essentially be post fader,
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Not as straightforward.
Some FX depends on the Input level.
Having FX boost and then FX after that can be different than having just the FX.
Also, same issue with Post FX - Pre Fader sends. They will be boosted.
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02-14-2020, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by X-Raym
Not as straightforward.
Some FX depends on the Input level.
Having FX boost and then FX after that can be different than having just the FX.
Also, same issue with Post FX - Pre Fader sends. They will be boosted.
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All these are just general issues with post fader FX?
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02-15-2020, 11:53 AM
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You'd have to have a second plugin at the end of the chain to then un-apply the fader change, if I'm understanding you.
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02-15-2020, 12:06 PM
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Ah yes, forgot to mention that bit. E second plugin doing the opposite of the first at the end to undo it
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02-15-2020, 12:10 PM
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I'm not clear on what an audio plugin can and can't access in terms of the reaper API, but assuming it can read the fader, i don't see why what you describe couldn't work.
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02-15-2020, 01:19 PM
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From what I've read, JSFX won't be able to access the Reaper API, but you could from a VST. Xenakios released an example on how to do it with JUCE
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=188350
I had been thinking that this might be a way in to scripts/JSFX for me but it's way beyond me at this point
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02-15-2020, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by todd_r
I had been thinking that this might be a way in to scripts/JSFX
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Yeah I had a noodle about it, too, and came up empty. I'm sure there is a way to make it happen, but seems like it would be unwieldy. Having and FX template that you can just insert that drops a couple instances in there seems like the way (short of a native feature).
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02-15-2020, 03:43 PM
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Really the most simple way of having POST fader FX in REAPER is to use Parent track. ANy FX on the parent track will basically be POST fader of child tracks.
You can also consider having sends, and to not send original sound track to master.
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02-16-2020, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by X-Raym
Really the most simple way of having POST fader FX in REAPER is to use Parent track. ANy FX on the parent track will basically be POST fader of child tracks.
You can also consider having sends, and to not send original sound track to master.
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Yeah, it may be the easiest thing to do. I just under up with so many layers of nested tracks in genera anyway that I was looking for a way to do it in one track
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02-16-2020, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by clepsydrae
Yeah I had a noodle about it, too, and came up empty. I'm sure there is a way to make it happen, but seems like it would be unwieldy. Having and FX template that you can just insert that drops a couple instances in there seems like the way (short of a native feature).
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You could do it with a combined EEL script and a JSFX. You can share global variables betweem them.
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02-17-2020, 02:20 PM
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You could use a multichannel parent track that hosts all of the individual “post fader” chains and optionally mix them all to a stereo output possibly even with its own chain. You could do it with explicit sends too. Having all of these plugins on the one track is maybe not quite so good for CPU, but it makes things like linking parameters a lot easier and only adds one track for up to 64 other tracks rather than just doubling your track count.
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02-17-2020, 04:13 PM
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Another way - if you want to avoid parent tracks - is to insert a simple gain plugin and use that as a fader.
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02-17-2020, 07:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by todd_r
If you had a volume plugin that read the fader value of the track, then just applied the same boost or cut, everything after it would essentially be post fader, is that possible?
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Tried it. It does take two gain plugins. The fader adjustment acts slightly before the plugins, leading to volume spikes. It works, though.
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02-19-2020, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ashcat_lt
You could use a multichannel parent track that hosts all of the individual “post fader” chains and optionally mix them all to a stereo output possibly even with its own chain. You could do it with explicit sends too. Having all of these plugins on the one track is maybe not quite so good for CPU, but it makes things like linking parameters a lot easier and only adds one track for up to 64 other tracks rather than just doubling your track count.
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Interesting idea!
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02-19-2020, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ErBird
Tried it. It does take two gain plugins. The fader adjustment acts slightly before the plugins, leading to volume spikes. It works, though.
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Ooh nice
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