Old 05-08-2019, 04:49 AM   #1
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In various posting people write of editing there midi. My thought is how can you perform anything live if you can't perform it perfect needing to edit your midi.
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Old 05-08-2019, 04:57 AM   #2
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Who are these people who always perform everything perfectly so that it is impossible to improve after it's recorded? I'm pretty sure I've never met one and I'm absolutely certain that I'm not one.

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Old 05-08-2019, 04:58 AM   #3
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Old 05-08-2019, 05:01 AM   #4
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if you can't perform it perfect n
Nobody can do anything perfect, ever.

Everything you do always is perfect because if not you would have done it differently.

-> "perfect" is a moving target

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you can write and edit an entire tune using only your mouse, I've never seen anyone perform live with a mouse.. dave
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Old 05-08-2019, 06:41 AM   #6
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In various posting people write of editing there midi. My thought is how can you perform anything live if you can't perform it perfect needing to edit your midi.
LOL ...

Many electronic musicians edit everything in MIDI
in the studio. They don't "play" anything!

At their live-performance ...

... they just push the "start"-button of their laptop
and look most significantly at the audience! Yeah, and
then the spectators become giddy with excitement.
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I am guilty of creating entire songs using only a mouse and never performing them live.

It is almost the whole point of MIDI that you can edit it. If you aren't going to edit it, just record the audio.
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Old 05-08-2019, 07:38 AM   #8
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That is the joy of sequencing. Shift timing, change length, alter pitch, stack notes, overlap them, who cares.

It can all be done after the fact and there is no limits to the number of moves allowed.

If you must perform using a midi controller and you're not a player, my advice is always have live quantize on to the grid resolution required, and record in very small parts.

Another thing to do is make sure midi overdub is on and stack on notes with each passing loop.
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Old 05-08-2019, 11:36 AM   #9
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In various posting people write of editing there midi. My thought is how can you perform anything live if you can't perform it perfect needing to edit your midi.
don't waist you're time thinking abowt perfect pointless queschin's
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Nearly every post here is on about recording audio. Haven't these people got ears?


And if they want to show someone else there's perfectly good manuscript paper can be had for a few dubloons
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:32 AM   #11
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And consider this...
I write, record and edit almost entirely* in MIDI now because MS has disabled me. I can't play the instruments I used to play live (guitar, fiddle, mandolin etc) and midi is a sanity saver for me. I can still make music.

Midi enables me.
As does Reaper, of course.

* Exceptions being my vocals, and contributions from friends.
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Old 05-10-2019, 12:57 PM   #12
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In various posting people write of editing there midi. My thought is how can you perform anything live if you can't perform it perfect needing to edit your midi.
For the same reason that you can't spell perfectly. You should be glad you're able to go back and edit your imperfect mistakes
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For the same reason that you can't spell perfectly. You should be glad you're able to go back and edit your imperfect mistakes
but I can spell perfectly..... p e r f ....... ( sorry)
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Old 05-10-2019, 01:49 PM   #14
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Don't apologise for having a sense of humour
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Old 05-11-2019, 01:19 AM   #15
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Midi and notation open huge posibilities for experimentation with sound, and compostion for those of us that haven't got an orchestra in the backyard; and I haven't heard anyone complain that Beethoven didn't play everything himself.
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And consider this...
I write, record and edit almost entirely* in MIDI now because MS has disabled me. I can't play the instruments I used to play live (guitar, fiddle, mandolin etc) and midi is a sanity saver for me. I can still make music.

Midi enables me.
As does Reaper, of course.

* Exceptions being my vocals, and contributions from friends.
EXCELLENT music on your website - totally engaging.....
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EXCELLENT music on your website - totally engaging.....
Thanks for that Woogish. Made my day!
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Thanks for that Woogish. Made my day!
i call 'em as i see 'em.......
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:23 PM   #19
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cutandpaste is a bad name for one who don't like to use midi
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Old 05-13-2019, 03:34 AM   #20
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Nobody can do anything perfect, ever.

Everything you do always is perfect because if not you would have done it differently.

-> "perfect" is a moving target

-Michael
ummm no
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:31 AM   #21
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For the same reason that you can't spell perfectly. You should be glad you're able to go back and edit your imperfect mistakes
The issue of user "cutnpaste" is not perfectionism as such, but it is
the sole fact of using the midi-editor: If you use the midi-editor,
maybe for a correction of something you just played - or maybe
for a groove or melody you wanna paint - you can't reproduce this
groove or melody in a live-situation with "real" intruments.
This is (or can be) a serious point.
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ummm no
ummm yes
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ummm yes
Ummm...
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Old 05-18-2019, 03:16 PM   #24
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For most electronic music genres it doesn't matter if they can be performed live.
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