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05-08-2019, 04:49 AM
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Midi editing
In various posting people write of editing there midi. My thought is how can you perform anything live if you can't perform it perfect needing to edit your midi.
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05-08-2019, 04:57 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2016
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Who are these people who always perform everything perfectly so that it is impossible to improve after it's recorded? I'm pretty sure I've never met one and I'm absolutely certain that I'm not one.
Steve
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05-08-2019, 04:58 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2014
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Don’t worry about it
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05-08-2019, 05:01 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cutnpaste
if you can't perform it perfect n
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Nobody can do anything perfect, ever.
Everything you do always is perfect because if not you would have done it differently.
-> "perfect" is a moving target
-Michael
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05-08-2019, 05:04 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Location: Essex, England.
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you can write and edit an entire tune using only your mouse, I've never seen anyone perform live with a mouse.. dave
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05-08-2019, 06:41 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cutnpaste
In various posting people write of editing there midi. My thought is how can you perform anything live if you can't perform it perfect needing to edit your midi.
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LOL ...
Many electronic musicians edit everything in MIDI
in the studio. They don't "play" anything!
At their live-performance ...
... they just push the "start"-button of their laptop
and look most significantly at the audience! Yeah, and
then the spectators become giddy with excitement.
Last edited by enroe; 05-09-2019 at 01:27 AM.
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05-08-2019, 06:55 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Bowral, Australia
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I am guilty of creating entire songs using only a mouse and never performing them live.
It is almost the whole point of MIDI that you can edit it. If you aren't going to edit it, just record the audio.
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05-08-2019, 07:38 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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That is the joy of sequencing. Shift timing, change length, alter pitch, stack notes, overlap them, who cares.
It can all be done after the fact and there is no limits to the number of moves allowed.
If you must perform using a midi controller and you're not a player, my advice is always have live quantize on to the grid resolution required, and record in very small parts.
Another thing to do is make sure midi overdub is on and stack on notes with each passing loop.
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05-08-2019, 11:36 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cutnpaste
In various posting people write of editing there midi. My thought is how can you perform anything live if you can't perform it perfect needing to edit your midi.
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don't waist you're time thinking abowt perfect pointless queschin's
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05-08-2019, 11:58 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: West Wales
Posts: 766
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that's not the worst of it
Nearly every post here is on about recording audio. Haven't these people got ears?
And if they want to show someone else there's perfectly good manuscript paper can be had for a few dubloons
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05-09-2019, 11:32 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Milton Keynes, UK
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And consider this...
I write, record and edit almost entirely* in MIDI now because MS has disabled me. I can't play the instruments I used to play live (guitar, fiddle, mandolin etc) and midi is a sanity saver for me. I can still make music.
Midi enables me.
As does Reaper, of course.
* Exceptions being my vocals, and contributions from friends.
Last edited by kevadams; 05-09-2019 at 11:47 AM.
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05-10-2019, 12:57 PM
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#12
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Edinburgh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cutnpaste
In various posting people write of editing there midi. My thought is how can you perform anything live if you can't perform it perfect needing to edit your midi.
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For the same reason that you can't spell perfectly. You should be glad you're able to go back and edit your imperfect mistakes
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05-10-2019, 12:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbraner
For the same reason that you can't spell perfectly. You should be glad you're able to go back and edit your imperfect mistakes
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but I can spell perfectly..... p e r f ....... ( sorry)
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05-10-2019, 01:49 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Edinburgh
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Don't apologise for having a sense of humour
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05-11-2019, 01:19 AM
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Midi and notation open huge posibilities for experimentation with sound, and compostion for those of us that haven't got an orchestra in the backyard; and I haven't heard anyone complain that Beethoven didn't play everything himself.
;-)
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05-11-2019, 01:21 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevadams
And consider this...
I write, record and edit almost entirely* in MIDI now because MS has disabled me. I can't play the instruments I used to play live (guitar, fiddle, mandolin etc) and midi is a sanity saver for me. I can still make music.
Midi enables me.
As does Reaper, of course.
* Exceptions being my vocals, and contributions from friends.
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EXCELLENT music on your website - totally engaging.....
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05-12-2019, 09:27 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Milton Keynes, UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woogish
EXCELLENT music on your website - totally engaging.....
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Thanks for that Woogish. Made my day!
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05-12-2019, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevadams
Thanks for that Woogish. Made my day!
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i call 'em as i see 'em.......
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05-12-2019, 07:23 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2008
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cutandpaste is a bad name for one who don't like to use midi
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05-13-2019, 03:34 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston, SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
Nobody can do anything perfect, ever.
Everything you do always is perfect because if not you would have done it differently.
-> "perfect" is a moving target
-Michael
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ummm no
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05-13-2019, 04:31 AM
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#21
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,575
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbraner
For the same reason that you can't spell perfectly. You should be glad you're able to go back and edit your imperfect mistakes
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The issue of user "cutnpaste" is not perfectionism as such, but it is
the sole fact of using the midi-editor: If you use the midi-editor,
maybe for a correction of something you just played - or maybe
for a groove or melody you wanna paint - you can't reproduce this
groove or melody in a live-situation with "real" intruments.
This is (or can be) a serious point.
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05-18-2019, 01:20 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 693
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coachz
ummm no
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ummm yes
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05-18-2019, 01:22 PM
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#23
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: West Wales
Posts: 766
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woogish
ummm yes
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Ummm...
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05-18-2019, 03:16 PM
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#24
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: home is where the heart is
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For most electronic music genres it doesn't matter if they can be performed live.
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