Old 08-24-2020, 11:52 AM   #1
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Default Area Selection Intro ?

Can anyone make a brief video or document explaining what Area Selection (Razor editing ?) does vs. what time selection does? It's hard to figure this out with new mouse modifiers showing up and not knowing where one thing ends and another begins and what the tasks are that each should be doing. I'd love to test along if I had a clue. Thanks.

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Old 08-24-2020, 12:00 PM   #2
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Nobody knows, its in development, everything can change.
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Old 08-24-2020, 12:09 PM   #3
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Nobody knows, its in development, everything can change.
You can't develop something if you don't have any idea what things are supposed to do. I realize everything can change but a 10 minute write up would be very helpful.
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Old 08-24-2020, 02:01 PM   #4
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It provides you nice visual of what you are selecting unlike TS.

Things are extremely simple :

You select PART you want in one go (unlike TS where you additionally need to select items you want to manipulate)
You do stuff with it (copy, drag copy, del, whatever) with visual feedback

What also it can do is:
Select multiple envelopes at once, copy them, delete them etc (not possible with ts), also with TS you need to select the envelope track you want to work with
Make multiple selections
etc

BTW Area selection is not something new... but it is in Reaper now

Gives you more flexibility with editing...

Example with delete (I'm hitting delete on every selection)


Move example:


Drag-Copy example:


It does exactly what you expect when making selections. Default modifiers, non changed. Simple and easy

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Old 08-24-2020, 02:54 PM   #5
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Thanks for the info Sexan and the great examples. Can you move envelope points in multiple lanes and what is the Razor thing? Thanks!
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Old 08-24-2020, 03:03 PM   #6
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Razor thingy is a new fancy name for Area Selection (weird one if you ask me). Yes you can move multiple points in multiple lanes

Example with multi selections (you can do this with single one also across all the lanes)
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Thanks, sorry I was wondering if you can raise and lower multiple envelope values at once from different lanes.
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Its in alpha stage. Not sure if devs will implement it (we all hope and asked few times)
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Its in alpha stage. Not sure if devs will implement it (we all hope and asked few times)
Yeah that would be great for tweaking harmonies like vocals and sax.
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It provides you nice visual of what you are selecting unlike TS.
Things are extremely simple :

You select PART you want in one go (unlike TS where you
additionally need to select items you want to manipulate).
You do stuff with it (copy, drag copy, del, whatever) with
visual feedback.
Hmm, I haven't dealt with the reaper version of the area
selection yet. It seems to me, that area-selection
(or now: razor-selection) is the same as marquee-selection,
but also including envelopes?
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Old 08-25-2020, 12:25 AM   #11
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Hmm, I haven't dealt with the reaper version of the area
selection yet. It seems to me, that area-selection
(or now: razor-selection) is the same as marquee-selection,
but also including envelopes?
No, it does not select items just area you want to manipulate with think of it like mini time selection. You can aslo stretch items/envelopes with it
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... You can aslo stretch items/envelopes with it
Ahh, so in a coarse overview, it looks like this:

1. time-selection --> select+move/copy items
2. marquee-selection --> move/copy items
3. razor-selection --> move/copy/stretch items+envelopes
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Ahh, so in a coarse overview, it looks like this:

1. time-selection --> select+move/copy items
2. marquee-selection --> move/copy items
3. razor-selection --> move/copy/stretch items+envelopes
Yeah, but it is (should be) much more easier and user friendly with area selection. I do not like to use the new term "razor" since it will bring even more confusion. Even coachz asked what is that.

There are some tool specific actions that are tied to one tool,for example crop project, render selection etc which time selection only
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Thanks Sexan for the great explanation-gifs. Now I get, what AS/RE is supposed to be.
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Yeah, but it is (should be) much more easier and user friendly with area selection. I do not like to use the new term "razor" since it will bring even more confusion. Even coachz asked what is that.
Yeah, I thought it was a whole new and different thing then just regular AS. It conjures up the idea that there's something extra sharp.
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