Old 02-17-2012, 03:59 PM   #201
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Mine will be here in a few minutes, in the meantime, There's at least one case that fits:

They go woofer to woofer...

Maybe you should sit on them while zipping, like you do with an overstuffed suitcase...JK.

EDIT: My case is here and it's a perfect fit. Lucky me!
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:29 PM   #202
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In an email exchange with Marty - I can JUST get these to fit speaker front to speaker front and pulling like mad on the lid to let me zip it shut. Good luck getting much of anything other than the power cables in the side pouch :-\ Also - be very careful when loading these into the case - there is "just" enough room to squeeze the second speaker in while specifically pulling open the side to allow the controls/jacks to pass inside.

Word to the wise - I'd be VERY careful when toting this ensemble around - the pots/jacks are pretty much "out there" on the ends to be tweaked and bent if the case gets bumped at all on the ends by something firm.

Glad it works - but if I had it to do over again, I'd just carry these things around in the box....
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Are you packing them with the nitron sheet around them like in your picture?

Mine are unwrapped and no tugging is necessary. It's possible you got a bad sample, might as well exchange it, unless they're out of stock again.

I keep googling to see what the buzz on these is in other forums, and apparently no one in the world has been able to find this thread, because no one has found anything negative about these.

Well, no speaker or anything else in history is that perfect. That's what makes the Mix review all the more aggravating. I had a long ass personal review almost done and it went poof with no backup, oh well.
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:28 AM   #204
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OK folks, now that there has been some time for the "newness" to ware off, how are you liking these monitors?

I can afford just one item this year for the studio, and decided to grab some better monitors over a mic or preamp.

Still having problems with them, or is that flaw not enough to make these hit the B list?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:38 AM   #205
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I go to work, listen, mix, output, invoice, deposit cheque.

I'm an unrepentant gearbox, but I don't think about upgrading monitors anymore. I'm a happy guy.

Thumbs up all around for Equator D5!
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Does anyone have any waterfall plots of these? After reading Mike Senior's book, it seems that most of these smallish, ported monitors suffer from some serious ringing issues at the port resonant frequency. He shows plots of a couple monitors that suffer less from this problem (Adam S2A and Westlake BBSM5), so it seems possible to create such a beast. But I'd be curious how the Equator's compare.

Ultimately, I know, it's about the sound.
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Funny you should ask that...after reading the same section in Mike's excellent book, I contacted Marty at Equator and asked him for a waterfall plot. He said the engineer that does those tests in the anechoic chamber is in China right now, but he'll be able to produce one when he gets back.

Now I must have a sealed infinite baffle monitor. I just don't have $3,000. And the way gas and groceries keep going up under the burden of our inflated currency I won't even have a house to live in. That isn't hyperbole.
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I'm still loving mine. They continue to reveal stuff I've never noticed before even in recordings I've been listening to for decades. Whenever I think about what I paid for these things, I feel like I've gotten away with something.
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Thanks for the reply's folks, it does help out!

And what about "plugging" the port with some foam or a sock? A friend told me that in the "Mixing With Your Mind" book that was a solution to port turbulence, but don't hold me to that...
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The tonality of these is exquisitely refined, so blocking the port moves the sound away from the ideal, not torward it. I find it more valuable to put ReaEQ and a panner on the master. With a click I then get a mono summed bandwidth limited output from only one speaker for my Auratone checks.

As far as hearing details I've never heard before...not much really. I don't hear instruments or parts I haven't heard, or reverbs, etc. so I can't magically hear much deeper into a mix than I'm used to. What I do hear that's new is tonalities and details, e.g. the pitch of cymbals and toms that often get swallowed up, and all the mouth noises and tonal inflections in Dire Strait's "Six Blade Knife".

If you like KRK's and some of the others out there, I don't know. Those sound aggressive to me and so my mixes end up soft. The D5's sound natural to me so my mixes translate well.
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Thanks JHughes!

And it just dawned on me after placing them in the cart & adding the S&H info that the price of shipping is included.....must not clear out the savings just yet.....resist.....resist...
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Still happy, here.

BTW, these go great with a sub; which reminds me...

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Can you tell me — those of you who have ripped open the D5s to fix rattles — how is the build quality of the circuit board? The build quality of the circuit boards in the M-Audio BX5a monitors I am replacing is atrocious.
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Can you tell me — those of you who have ripped open the D5s to fix rattles — how is the build quality of the circuit board? The build quality of the circuit boards in the M-Audio BX5a monitors I am replacing is atrocious.
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I have had no rattles or buzzes. Circuit boards look on par with anything else from China. Capacitors at least have glue on them for security.
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I was tempted to buy a pair of those. Until I placed them in the shopping cart and looked at the shipping cost to Canada.

USPS First-class Mail International Package: $167.96.
UPS Standard: $79.81 (to which Brown will add outrageous custom brokerage fees and collect sales taxes)
UPS Worldwide Express: $181.61

Are they on crack? As good as they may be, thanks but no thanks.
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I was tempted to buy a pair of those. Until I placed them in the shopping cart and looked at the shipping cost to Canada.

USPS First-class Mail International Package: $167.96.
UPS Standard: $79.81 (to which Brown will add outrageous custom brokerage fees and collect sales taxes)
UPS Worldwide Express: $181.61

Are they on crack? As good as they may be, thanks but no thanks.
Well, the package weighs 23 pounds. This I know because i just ordered them. :-) Shipping via UPS ground to the other side of the U.S. from Equator was about $33, I think. So $79 to Canada ... I don't know. Sounds a bit exorbitant. There aren't supposed to be duty fees, right? NAFTA and all? Who knows, but I reckon it's UPS that's sticking it to you, not Equator.
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Every package, regardless of size or destination that crosses the border is subject to an International Shipping premium, a brokerage fee, processing fees, and the GST or HST fee.
http://packagefox.com/blog/shipping-...-so-expensive/

NAFTA was designed to be good for Mexico, not for you.
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Hi there,

Just bought my D5s last month. I have noticed a severe buzzing coming from both speakers. They are playing nowhere near 100db, and the buzz is very noticeable from 80hz all the way down to 53hz (their lower limit).

Marty at customer service is replying to my mails only sporadically, I have found him to be extremely unhelpful to be honest. It's now been a week and he has ignored 2 of my emails asking for assistance. I have been nothing but polite as well

In any case, this was really the only forum I could find where people were having similar problems. It isn't a problem with the cables; it sounds like a mechanical sound - like perhaps a wire buzzing against the back of the woofer, or perhaps the woofer surround itself.

Can anyone give me some help?? I'm really at my wit's end. This is my first pair of studio monitors and I'm relatively noobish to the whole scene - any help would be appreciated.

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Do you know at exactly what SPL this happens? Secondly, there were a couple of cases of a wire or something vibrating. It's quite easy to open the cab and look for this. I would assume this to be the possible case, typically mechanical speaker buzzes will happen at a resonant frequency and the way to tell is to run a sweep and identify the frequency (assuming you really don't need to do that). I'd take a quick look inside if you feel comfortable doing so. I think JHughes has done this already, don't quote me.
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I'm surprised at the poor service report. Never a problem here....
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Do you know at exactly what SPL this happens?
Forgive me, but I don't really know what sound pressure level is or how to measure it :/

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That's the thing, I wouldn't really. But I'm not exactly an idiot, and I can follow instructions. Is it relatively straight-forward or is some knowledge of electronics required??
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Just take the screws out of the back and the amplifier will pop out. I don't think a vibrating cable is your problem though. These speakers break up at a not very loud level.
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Forgive me, but I don't really know what sound pressure level is or how to measure it :/

Don't take this wrong but if that is the case, how do you know that it isn't anywhere near 100 dB? With such small speakers you really want to measure it if possible (dB meter). I blew a D5 up because I treated my room and I thought the speakers were no where near 100dB but they were over 100dB; the treatment was soaking up the extra reflections I had grown used to.

I still think you probably have a wire vibrating but I don't want you blowing a D5 thinking it isn't as loud as the spec without actually knowing what SPL it is actually putting out, that's all. I had to buy another to replace, not fun. I believe you, just being careful here.
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What do you mean 'break up'?


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Don't take this wrong but if that is the case, how do you know that it isn't anywhere near 100 dB?
Well it's hardly empirical, but my friend has 7.5" monitors, and he played them at 100db so i could judge. Moreover his studio is treated acoustically, whereas I'm just playing them in my kitchen. I'm 99% sure that i'm playing them far, far lower than his. Probably in the region of 60db if I had to guess.

I'm just passing bass tones through the speakers - the rattle starts without fail at just above 80hz.

Thanks for all the help thus far gents!
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Well it's hardly empirical, but my friend has 7.5" monitors, and he played them at 100db so i could judge. Moreover his studio is treated acoustically, whereas I'm just playing them in my kitchen. I'm 99% sure that i'm playing them far, far lower than his. Probably in the region of 60db if I had to guess.

I'm just passing bass tones through the speakers - the rattle starts without fail at just above 80hz.

Thanks for all the help thus far gents!
Just be careful, so you are playing pure tones through the speaker? 80hz is going to be tricky to judge without measuring and what sounds loud is going to change based on the room you are in and pure tones are much more dangerous to the speaker if going over spec. In other words, its gonna likely rattle at somepoint over spec, I'll guarantee it. I'll stop bugging you, I just wasn't comfortable we know how loud they are actually being played. No worries.
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Indeed, pure test tones can be misleading...just had a thought:

Would it make sense to play some bass-rich music on the speakers at the level you want to monitor (or even a notch or two above that level), then using a steep and narrow bandpass to restrict the signal to the range of interest (50-80Hz)? That way you might send a more realistic test signal to the speakers, representing the actual portion of bass included in an otherwise (probably) rather deafening "program" signal.

However I think many bass reflex systems do suffer from "porthole noises", that you get this in the entire range (and not so much at a specific resonant frequency) could indicate this.
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OK, the woofer cone inside edge is glued to the tube. The woofer and the tube move together as an assembly.

My speculation is that the tube edge is contacting the waveguide. I can't get calipers in there to measure though. It looks like the wave guide bulges out a little, but I don't know. This is the type of speculation for which the internet is infamous, but so be it. 99% chance I'm wrong, regardless, the noise is there well below 102 dB.
JHughes, i've done some more experimenting and i'm 99% sure that this is my problem. The inside woofer cone edge seems to be vibrating against the tube edge causing a reverberating buzzing noise. It's extremely annoying. Did you ever manage to find a solution? Is this Equator's fault? Keeping in mind they were like this when I got them a couple of weeks ago.

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Indeed, pure test tones can be misleading...just had a thought:

Would it make sense to play some bass-rich music on the speakers at the level you want to monitor (or even a notch or two above that level), then using a steep and narrow bandpass to restrict the signal to the range of interest (50-80Hz)?.
I tried this alright. The buzz is still extremely noticeable, even at lower volumes.

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Just be careful, so you are playing pure tones through the speaker? In other words, its gonna likely rattle at somepoint over spec, I'll guarantee it.
Yea i was, but I also played numerous other things, like my own tracks and even songs that weren't particularly bass-heavy. Buzz still there though. And don't worry, you're not bugging me at all, I really appreciate the help! I feel so isolated due to the fact that equator customer service have been ignoring me (2 emails this last week and no replies, same happened last week with 1 reply) so it's nice to have you kind samaritans help me out!
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Hmm... So, couple of things. If you think that is where the vibration is you can take a piece of paper say 1-2 inches wide and gently slide it around the gap. You should be able to find either a bump or mis-alignment but this depends on the thickness of the paper. Ideally it should be close to the thickness of the gap but not as thick if that makes sense, you need some room to judge but not too thin.

This is how how voice coils are actually aligned in repair shops (while the glue is drying) but instead of paper, specific thicknesses of lighting gels are used (of all things) because it guarantees 100% equal spacing of the gap for the entire circumference. A pure tone sweep will identify a problem (which you have already done).

So if you can find a misalignment its most likely Equator's issue, if you find a bump its possibly you. Reason being overpowering at a steady state will heat the glue on the voice coil and will cause a bubble to form from heat from the glue softening and air expanding. That's bad, it can actually be corrected if you are really good and could get to it and remove the bump but that really puts you into hack territory not having the correct tools etc. (I used to do warranty repair work for all the big companies back in the day such as EV, JBL, Cerwin Vega and others, ah the memories of burnt voice coils and the smell of glue )

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JHughes, i've done some more experimenting and i'm 99% sure that this is my problem. The inside woofer cone edge seems to be vibrating against the tube edge causing a reverberating buzzing noise. It's extremely annoying. Did you ever manage to find a solution?
I just had to turn down my speakers, they're not defective.
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That is entirely possible.
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just got my D5's last night and immediately played all my favorite songs

i realize there's a need for some break-in time, but these monitors are, from what i can tell, much much better than my wharfedale active diamond 8.2's (which i felt were worse than the KRK 5's i had to sell after college).

Initial reactions:
1. the stereo imaging is crazy good. almost makes all the panning from my fav dance music producers annoying, lol. very precise and kept making me want to look in the direction of each sound.

2. i'm hearing a lot of words/lyrics clearly for the first time, which makes me sad that I didn't know about these speakers earlier. and along with that, a lot of quieter elements that i had no idea existed are just plain to my ears now. in general the midrange seems a lot more prominent.

3. even turning these up loud-ish, you are hard pressed to feel any of the low end. but you can hear all the notes and tones super clear.

4. there's a very quiet hiss when nothing is playing, but i've heard that's normal and i'm fine with it. (i'm using 1/4" TRS btw).

conclusion: pretty damn happy, this is definitely an upgrade for me. thank you to the reaper forums as usual.
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even turning these up loud-ish, you are hard pressed to feel any of the low end. but you can hear all the notes and tones super clear.
Absolutely, these are not designed to feel low end but to hear it.
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yep, i'm fine with that. i've never heard that clear in the low end so that's pretty cool. might be better that i'm not distracted by sub bass

part of me wants to have a huge ass funktion 1 club system too tho, ha

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There are cheap plugins around you can use on your master buss that simulate bass an octave or so below your speakers. You just need to set the input on the plugin down ~-3dB so it doesn't distort. While not capable of accurately representing bass below the speaker range, they do give you a good idea of the mix balance. I just make sure I don't have any plosives or low bumps in my mixes, and use HP filters a lot. Then, I check it on my cans. With the new studio monitor sim plugins, you can pretty much mix on cans now...but who wants to do that, right?

I doubt the woofers are rubbing against the waveguide. Most likely, you are over-driving the D5 inputs depending on your D/A's calibration. Either keep your master D/A output down, or keep the D5 inputs down. I keep my active monitor input knobs set to ~15dB and don't have any problems. -5dB may be all that's required. As mentioned, running various 0 dB VU level tones with your system properly calibrated may still overdrive or even blow out speakers. Keep your D/A mixer volume way down when running those.
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yep, i'm fine with that. i've never heard that clear in the low end so that's pretty cool. might be better that i'm not distracted by sub bass

part of me wants to have a huge ass funktion 1 club system too tho, ha
Just read this entire thread and its waaay too late here in NY (1:30am). Damn snow storm... Anyway, I'm intrigued by these speakers now after having read everything. I noticed you mentioned dance music in an earlier post. I work with Hip-Hop exclusively. I think I've been conditioned to feel the bass as opposed to hearing the bass. I understand that the D5's aren't meant to be room rattlers (5" for God sakes!), but how would you say they could represent a Hip-Hop song? I'm sure in critical mixing I'll need a sub added, but this is actually the first time I'm interested in not feeling the bass and just listening too it. Any thoughts?
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:21 AM   #238
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if you're just interested in listening and hearing the music, then these definitely fit the profile. extremely clear bass (and everything else). i listen to trap all the time on them, shit sounds amazing. lol
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The sale price of $300 is over March 1st (this friday).

They are in stock, I ordered a pair earlier today.


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Thanks for posting that...indeed, they are going from 300 to 400 dollars.
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