Old 02-14-2014, 08:12 AM   #1
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Default ripple editing with item edge

It's the first time i make a FR, so i want to be sure it's needed to or maybe there's something i m missing.
I madea topic about it, but it looks like there isnt.

that's the goal:

in ripple editing you can move all the items from one point to another one by clickin on the first one and move it back or forward.
You can also cut a portion of item, deleting it and all the items on the right will move left next to the just cutted item.
That's great, but, as i work most with voiceovers and speaks in general, often i need to adjust a cut pulling the right edge of an item to recover some cents of seconds of the deleted part.
No problem if i have silence betwen that right edge and the next item, but if i dont have silence and i pull the right edge i have a crossfade were the two items overlap.

This both in ripple mode on and off.

What i want is that in ripple mode on, if i pull the right edge i dont have a crossfade but the next item moves with my pulling.


so the idea could be a mouse modifire on the edge of item that, by ripple editing, does this feature.

i made a gif take from PT (where i took the idea from), and i made an attacched file here, i hope you can see it.


EDIT: ok it doesnt work, i will post it in few minutes
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:25 AM   #2
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:27 AM   #3
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Very good idea indeed. Definitely useful.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:31 AM   #4
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yey, i posted the gif too
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Old 03-09-2015, 05:05 AM   #5
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THis is nice!!
Any news from this ?
Is there a vote open ?
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Old 03-12-2015, 04:28 AM   #6
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Doesn't this look kinda like the new modifier in 50pre16 ? Perhaps it is.

Metalpriest, head on over to the pre-release forum and try it out on a portable install if you must.
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Old 03-16-2015, 03:18 AM   #7
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@airon
I made a demo of what it looks like:
Devs: Could we have this simple "move item contents" modifier addition for items? - Cockos Confederated Forums

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The mouse modifier in v5 pre 16 is very different :P
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oh i didn't noticed that this topic was alive

i will take a look to the pre16!

ray, you almost get what i meant...i'd like just your "right offset" as mouse modifier, because i want that the previous items (on the left) are fixed where they are because already synched where they have to be.
so even moving the left edge, the "starting" point of the item should be in the same spot and all the rest at the right (item itself) should moving.

damn, i really don't know how to make a good gif to explain it better.
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Old 03-16-2015, 05:09 AM   #9
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I made a demo of what it looks like:
Devs: Could we have this simple "move item contents" modifier addition for items? - Cockos Confederated Forums

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The mouse modifier in v5 pre 16 is very different :P
Also, the same thing would be awesome to have as mouse modifier in MIDI editor!
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Old 03-16-2015, 10:06 AM   #10
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Guys, it is now open to votes! With Midi Editor suggestion too!

Mouse Modifier - Left Click Drag: Ripple Editing with Item Edges / VOTE

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Old 03-16-2015, 11:40 AM   #11
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Voted! All these things would be awesome
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:12 PM   #12
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You may be interested by this:

Scripts (Lua): Move L/R edge of item under mouse to edit cursor (with ripple edit)



It is ripple editing, multi tracks, or single track based on item edges, and because it works with edit cursor, it can be "snapped" :P
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:58 AM   #13
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Note that the script posted above doesn't answer the request. They are workarround, and a native solution would be far more flexible.
As a quick resume, here what would be appreciated
  • ability to ripple edit from edges preserving source position (mode 1) and preserving source position relative to edge (mode 2) as two mouse modifiers
Thanks for listening !
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Old 03-09-2016, 09:20 AM   #14
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+1000 for this.

Much of my work is for Radio, and a large amount of time is spent speech editing.

For this, the two functions described here would be incredibly useful, and I believe it would tempt a lot of users away from another workstation which is very common in radio and onto Reaper. Both would need to Ripple items to the right AND to the left of the one being edited.

Function 1 - a mouse modifier to click/drag the edge of an item and have other items on the timeline Ripple relative to the edge.

Eg with two items next to each other on the timeline, and with a short crossfade between them, clicking and dragging the righthand edge (fade out) of the lefthand item would Ripple the items to the right so that the crossfade length remained the same but its position changed. Similarly, if the lefthand edge (fade in) of the righthand clip was dragged, items to the left would ripple to achieve the same effect.

In essence, it would look like X-Rayms demo video (with the offset sliders) above, but by using a mouse modifier to click and drag the item edge instead of the sliders.

Function 2 - another mouse modifier to click and drag the item CONTENTS towards or away from the fade (like Slip edit), and have the other end of the clip remain the same (unlike Slip edit), with all subsequent items (in either direction) Rippling if Ripple mode is on.

This is harder to describe, but it looks like this.... (sorry, I don't know how to embed the video in this post)

https://youtu.be/KCMOk_ZfcIY

It is impossible to overstate how useful these functions would be for Radio use.

Please consider these requests. Many thanks.
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+1

Great for spoken word programs, because this will get used 1000 times a day, saving plenty of time and effort.
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+1

The BBC needs that too.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:40 PM   #17
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Maybe my TOP 1 feature request for REAPER. Very useful in podcast/videoediting/voice narration kind of work !
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I'm bumping this again too!

Would be so useful!
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I also like how the Propagate tool works in premiere pro. When you right click left item edge and drag left, it move content and next item to the right, leaving item as its position.

This could be another mouse modifier
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Old 06-11-2017, 10:51 AM   #21
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+1 to this FR. It should be optional of course.
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Old 02-28-2019, 02:34 AM   #22
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This thread is getting old. And It still would be super cool to have this!!!
Particularly for videos
Please please please.
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Old 06-09-2019, 07:42 PM   #23
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Any news on this FR?

I'm working on editing some video which is mostly dialog and requires a lot of edits in the same fashion. This FR would immensely speed up the editing process.
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I'm midway through a big podcast edit and this feature would be SO useful!
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:16 PM   #25
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Yes, I'm trying to build this one now for ages myself as "RippleDrag" but it's too complicated in ReaScript...

Biggest difficulty is, that we don't have the option to add actions for dragging-mousemodifiers.
With this and an Api-function "get_drag_difftime_items" which would return the itemnumber of the affected item, it's old length/position and new length/position, this would be possible to script.
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Old 06-10-2019, 02:35 AM   #26
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I'm working on this myself.

As mespotine says, it's very difficult (if not impossible) to do this by dragging with the mouse. A native solution would be amazing.

What I'm trying to do is create scripts which Ripple from edges based on a small nudge that is run repeatedly. This could then be assigned to a key or a MIDI controller etc. It's not ideal, but I think will work ok. The logic of what moves when is rather more complex than you might imagine, but I think I've figured that out.... I just need enough time to get stuck into the coding.
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