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02-21-2019, 10:25 AM
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Connecting acoustic guitar with phantom power on
Just want to confirm that my research online is correct.
I'm going to play around with recording my Taylor acoustic on two channels, one direct connect from the guitar and the other through a mic. The mic requires phantom power and from what I've read online, connecting the Taylor to the interface with the phantom power on won't blow anything up in the guitar. Is this correct?
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02-21-2019, 12:17 PM
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I've never had a problem with it
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02-21-2019, 12:23 PM
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I'm not aware of a device that will output phantom power via its jack connectors, only via the XLRs. So as long as you don't use a jack-to-XLR adapter to connect your guitar's direct signal to the XLR mic input of the interface, you will be safe. Also, does your interface offer the option to engage phantom power for each of its 2 mic inputs separately? You may only turn phantom power on on the mic's channel.
If you plug a DI box between the guitar and the interface, you would use an unbalanced jack cable to connect the guitar to the DI box and then a balanced XLR mic cable to connect the DI box to the mic input of your interface. In this case, phantom power would be output towards the DI box but would not reach the guitar as it would be eliminated by the DI box.
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02-21-2019, 12:41 PM
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I mean, unless it's got an XLR connector. Some guitars are doing that. They're probably protected, though. A TRS>XLR cable probably won't even work because the guitar won't turn on. A TS>XLR cable might short one leg of the phantom, but there's not a lot of current flowing there, so it shouldn't hurt anybody.
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02-21-2019, 12:56 PM
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You didn't say what interface you are using but a "guitar" or "instrument" input won't have phantom power so as long as you have the right connection you'll be fine.
You also didn't tell us anything about your guitar. A piezo pickup wouldn't be damaged by phantom power. But, I assume the guitar as active electronics.
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from what I've read online, connecting the Taylor to the interface with the phantom power on won't blow anything up in the guitar. Is this correct?
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Taylor probably wouldn't guarantee that.
...This is one of those situations where the odds of something bad happening are low but the cost of something bad happening is high.
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02-21-2019, 03:59 PM
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Thanks everyone, that pretty much goes along with everything I read. I just always like to check the stuff I read online with you guys, just to be sure.
My Taylor has the ESS2 sound system in it. I sent it back to the factory last year and had them upgrade the old ESS system that was originally in the guitar. Have to be honest, not a big fan, just never have been real happy with the tone. The guitar itself sounds great, just seems like that ESS2 is kind of hard to dial in.
Plugged in it with the phantom power on for the mic, no smoke, no flames, everything still works.
Turns out I prefer the sound I get from the dynamic mic over the condenser mic, so I guess in the end, the point was moot.
My interface is a Presonus FireStudio.
Last edited by toleolu; 02-21-2019 at 04:01 PM.
Reason: Forgot to mention interface
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02-21-2019, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by toleolu
My Taylor has the ESS2 sound system in it. I sent it back to the factory last year and had them upgrade the old ESS system that was originally in the guitar. Have to be honest, not a big fan, just never have been real happy with the tone. The guitar itself sounds great, just seems like that ESS2 is kind of hard to dial in.
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I love mine, it's one of the best plugged in acoustic sounds I've ever had... But that's live, what it's really made for. I'd never really choose it for studio recording unless I wanted that plugged in acoustic guitar sound, otherwise, I'd just mic it - so either specific creative use or last resort.
That doesn't mean it can't be used that way, but it's Taylor, give it the mic love it deserves.
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02-21-2019, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by karbomusic
I love mine, it's one of the best plugged in acoustic sounds I've ever had...
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Do you mind me asking how you set the controls on your amp and the guitar?
To me, it seems a bit bright, and when I try to roll that off a bit, it seems it gets muddy pretty quick, just can't seem to find a happy middle ground.
Love the guitar, really like the tone I got micing it, problem with micing it though is the acoustics in the man cave sucks.
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02-21-2019, 07:47 PM
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Mine just has Bass/Treble/Volume but it's also always through a PA aka full range monitors, not a guitar amp if that's helpful. I think I often have bass/treble around 3 o'clock which is effectively a little bit of a mid cut.
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