Old 01-19-2019, 07:11 AM   #1
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Default MTC Timecode - Routing advice

hi

I have asked about MTC Timecode operation in Reaper -

I am slightly confused by the routing scheme for a Timecode Generator MTC

I have set up everything as should be -

Send clock to device - USB A - box checked
No SPP - box left unchecked


Source - MTC 24F - box checked


Routing - this IS WHAT confuses me - obviously I am not routing this timecode track to any of the mdi channels 1-16 ? I am sending the MTC to a machine - to tell it to start and stop recording/playing on my AKAI DR-16

So - my question therefore is simple - how do I route the Timecode Generator MTC track (or media item track ) to this exterior machine Akai DR-16 ?

I cannot see a way so far - I have tried this and that.
There must be a way to get a Timecode track MTC out of Reaper and into a machine so that the machine will start stop playing/recording


AS someone already mentioned the Timecode MTC has nothing to do with midi note on/off - therefore routing this Timecode generator to a midi channel makes no sense

The routing as far as I can see (but I maybe mistaken - so apologies ) only gives you the midi channels 1-16 to route the track to ?


I hope someone can answer who has Reaper running with the use of MTC timecode for operating an external machine - maybe even a multitrack recording machine !


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Old 01-19-2019, 07:38 AM   #2
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set up a MIDI hardware send in the routing options, from the track with the MTC signal, to the relevant MIDI hardware that is sending the sync.
ie, what is your Akai plugged in to MIDI-wise? Send the sync to this
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Old 01-19-2019, 09:56 AM   #3
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Hi
Thanks for the reply
As above midi hardware is

USB A that's the USB device listed in the midi option box

That is the only hardware connected
I send midi note on/off to this USB device - it triggers all my exterior outboard sound modules fine

That part is working fine OK
The Time code clock has also been assigned to the same USB A device
In the same options - preference - midi check box

The Time code MTC becomes available then as an item to insert into a track
into a track as media item Time code Generator

This has been done OK I know that MTC Time code Generator is there and it is outputting MTC clock - because you can actually listen to it as an audio sound ( It's just a long screeching sound )

It is the Routing of this MTC clock that is the problem - I cannot find an
Output to assign it to ..

The Routing is either audio out or midi channels 1-16 out This MTC clock is a machine specific code clock and only a machine can use it...

This Media item Time code Generator MTC clock has been inserted to a track
It has been given the output device instruction via options - send clock to this device - in this case the devi e is USB A

Source of Time code has been selected as MTC clock with 24/30 f ( frame rate)

But how do you get the MTC clock to output it's machine clock code that will stop/start my Akai DR-16 ?

There IS ONLY audio channels or midi channel available in the routing sele tion box - As above MTC timecode clock is nothing to do with either of those

Sorry for lengthy post...

Edit - it just occurred to me that maybe in Reaper the MTC or SMPTE/LTC Time code Generator outputs it's clock by default without any routing ?

So perhaps I should leave the routing box as is - and have it as default setting ' Send to original channel '

Perhaps ...?


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Old 01-19-2019, 10:00 AM   #4
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click on the routing box for the MTC track
click on the midi hardware output dropdown box
select your usb interface
(untick master send (if you don't want to hear the screeching))
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Old 01-19-2019, 10:39 AM   #5
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Hi Domzy

Thanks for your reply....tried that already ....no luck yet

The hardware is my Philip Rees midi junction box which is connected to the USB A in devices

This splits midi notes and MTC and sends the midi to my outboard modules and the time code MTC to the Akai DR-16 via separate outs

The routing box in Reaper lists the USB A device together with a drop down list of midi channels 1-16 and the audio output routing ...that's it

There is no box to check for machine code clock is there ? or any other routing for a Time code Generator media item ??

Simply put...where is it ?
Edit - I am assuming you have to route it - maybe MTC clock gets output automatically ?? There is nothing in the routing scheme box relating to Media Item - Time code Generator...

Or to put it another way the routing box drop down menus do NOT differ whether the track selection is an audio track a midi track or a media item...in this case it's a media item
And that item is Time Code Generator

The routing selection only has 2 choices audio channels or midi 1-16..

Am I seeing this right...??

Thanks

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Old 01-19-2019, 11:20 AM   #6
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Quote:
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The routing selection only has 2 choices audio channels or midi 1-16..

Am I seeing this right...??

Thanks
i'm starting to suspect you may be looking at the input box rather than the routing box?
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Old 01-19-2019, 10:43 AM   #7
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another thing that just occurred to me, you say you hear screeching, are you sure you are sending MTC and not LTC? Might be worth double-checking (in source properties)
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:14 AM   #8
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i just googled this, dunno if it's any help

http://anthonymillerdesign.net/blog/reaper-ltcmtc-setup


in his second pic you will need to select USB A in the MIDI hardware dropdown and you will have selected MTC as in the first pic
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