08-13-2022, 02:01 PM | #1 |
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Can't Get LV2 LSP-Plugins Into Reaper (SOLVED)
I have a nice new Ubuntu Minimal install, and everything is working, except I can't for the life of me get the LSP plugins into Reaper. Tried LV version, tried vst version, nothing works.
I downloaded them, extracted them, put them in the appropriate folders; in fact, tried them all, creating new folders when necessary. I have succeeded with this in previous installations, and can't figure out what's going on here. What am I doing wrong?
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I know this might seem like obvious advice ( but this has happened me in the past ). Make sure that the folders are included on Reapers VST/LV2 path settings and to do a rescan.
Also obviously check the 'plugins that failed to scan' to see if there is a problem there. Maybe even as a last resort try clearing the plugin cache and rescan all plugins again. |
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Yes, I am putting the paths in, and hitting "apply" as well (which I sometimes forget to do). I have also cleared the cache and re-scanned.
No LV2 plugins at all are showing up in Reaper. I thought there were some included in Reaper by default, but maybe not. I wonder if I'm missing something in this minimal Ubuntu install? Something essential for LV2 plugins?
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Is the lv2 package installed?
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I think the dependencies for the lsp plugins ( according to my install at least, tho i do remember when LV2 was new there were a lot more dependencies like lilv saul etc IIRC ) are : libc6 , libcairo2 , libsndfile1 , libstdc++6 and libx11-6
The lsp LV2 plugins need to be contained within the same folder, the structure is basically there are a 2 .so files that run all the plugins, unlike most separate lv2 plugins where there will be a .so file for each package. Then all the .ttl files will be in this folder too. The folder ends with the .lv2 extension can you paste the output of the command:- locate lsp-plugins.lv2 Last edited by Mikobuntu; 08-13-2022 at 03:44 PM. |
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I'm going to try again with the vst version. I had success with my previous "test" install of the same OS, so that did work, I just need to see if I can duplicate what I did.
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Edit: I did some searching The Linux distribution requirements: glibc >= 2.19 libsndfile >= 1.0.25 libcairo >= 1.14 libfreetype >= 2.10 libGL Host compatible with LV2 The usual directories for LV2 are: /usr/lib/lv2 /usr/local/lib/lv2 /usr/lib64/lv2 /usr/local/lib64/lv2 ~/.lv2 The usual directories for LinuxVST are: /usr/lib/vst /usr/local/lib/vst /usr/lib64/vst /usr/local/lib64/vst ~/.lxvst ~/.vst Last edited by audiojunkie; 08-13-2022 at 08:18 PM. |
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I did put all those in, still no go.
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I have yet to try today. I am thinking it has to do with the fact that, on my previous "test" Ubuntu install, the XFCE shell I installed was different than the one I installed in the "official" Ubuntu install. As evidenced by the fact that, on boot, the splash screen is Ubuntu, whereas on the other it's Xubuntu. I'm not talking about a full XFCE-desktop; that installs so much you basically have converted it to Xubuntu. It installs Libre, Thunderbird etc. I avoided that, as it would negate the minimal Ubuntu install. But, I did do things differently on the test vs the official one. both are less than full XFCE-desktop, yet they differ somehow. I used different tutorials, I think. And possibly some dependencies did not get installed. There are some other anomalies, such as having to run Synaptic from the terminal, and also having no permission to install in the Snap Store. Which I may remove anyway, so no loss there. I much prefer Synaptic.
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Success! I got the vst version going. However, I was still mystified by not finding the impulse files where I thought they should be. Then I remembered that I had not installed them yet. so many things to do on a new install, I forgot that one. I guess my fibro-fog is bad lately. Or the aliens abducted me again. Or, hell, I'm 70 years old, and have earned the right to be spacey once in awhile...
Anyway, no dependency issues, no problem with my minimal Ubuntu install, or the XFCE shell I put on it. Everything is cool. time for a cup of tea.
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Hi, I just installed _all_ the lsp's listed in synaptic in linux Reaper 6.64 in avlinux EFL version rc2 with xfce as the desktop gui (don't even ask!!! )
...and all is well. Cheers
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Great! I didn't understand all of that, but we're both rocking now.
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Although I have LSP Plugins working in vst format, this thread was about LV2, so I don't technically have that solved. I don't have an LV2 folder in this minimal Ubuntu install. I think this may be the only thing to bite me by not using a tailor-made distro. No Carla or anything like that, no LV2 folder. I did make one of course, but still had problems. I'm pretty sure it was user error/stupidity, but I don't really need LV2 anyway. LSP has everything I will likely need. All I use so far is the Stereo Reverb.
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https://sourceforge.net/projects/lsp.../Linux-x86_64/ I would un-install the current LV2 versions of the LSP files first, then unzip the newest archive of the LV2 version of the LSP files from the SourceForge page. |
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Kx-Studio repositories enabled, you should have this path below, if you install all the lsp items using synaptic: /usr/lib/lv2/lsp-plugins.lv2 to move the folder as Glennbo mentioned, mkdir /home/you/.lv2 and sudo cp -R /usr/lib/lv2/lsp-plugins.lv2 /home/you/.lv2 then change owner from root to your username: chown -R you /home/you/.lv2/lsp-plugins.lv2 Hope this works!
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Yeah, I have read they are working on it in the pre-release area. I'm going to just wait until it's in the release versions, since I don't expect using CLAP will really change anything for me.
Once CLAP is in the release version, if some of the VST or LV2 plugins I use add CLAP versions, I'll likely switch them out, especially the VSTs. |
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but I will get LV2 up and running at some point.
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I was using the x42 limiter before Realimit appeared. Realimit is just amazing.
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If I lower the X42 Stereo Limiter's threshold control, it does exactly what I expect a limiter to do . . . LIMIT! To the threshold I set, with NO expansion trying to make up for the gain loss. If I want the overall signal to be louder, I increase the input gain, and the signal increases, but still gets lopped off at the threshold I set. To my ears, ReaLimit always sounds like it's pumping because of the make up gain that can't be turned off. I just want to clip transient peaks transparently, and for me the X42 Stereo Limiter functions the best at that job. |
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On a limiter, the threshold is the control that is supposed to set the level which will not be exceeded. That's how I expect it to be, and that's how it is on the X42 Stereo Limiter. A volume maximizer is more what ReaLimit seems like to me, where a peak limiter should just clip peaks and nothing more. Edit: I just tried a few other limiters to see what their threshold control does. The LSP Stereo Limiter has a switch on its threshold control so that make up expansion can be enabled or disabled. If ReaLimit had that, I would prolly use it. The Xhip Stereo Limiter has no make up expansion, so setting the threshold lower only reduces volume like the X42 Stereo Limiter. TL's 3113 Stereo Limiter has no threshold control and is evidently hard set at 0db such that you have to use the input gain to force it over the fixed threshold and then use the output control to lower it back down. No make up expansion, but way too fiddly for me. The Windows W1 Limiter has a threshold control that behaves like ReaLimit such that lowering it increases the volume, and also like ReaLimit the make up expansion cannot be disabled. Not surprising though since it was modeled to act like the Waves L2 which is a volume maximizer. The JS based Fairly Childish Stereo Limiter has a threshold control that does not have make up expansion, but does have a separate control for make up gain. The JS based MDA Stereo Limiter has a threshold control that also does not do any make up expansion gain. Really, my issue with ReaLimit is that the expansion that cannot be disabled, and I've been told by Schwa that that a switch like the LSP Stereo Limiter has, won't be added to it, so I use the X42 because it behaves the way I expect it to act. Last edited by Glennbo; 08-16-2022 at 04:58 PM. |
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