Old 10-03-2013, 05:33 PM   #81
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my impression was that there aren't that many people using Reaper compared to the other big DAW's due to some unhelpful and off-putting defaults.
I disagree. I'm sure it has more to do with marketing that a couple default. I mean, for Christ's sake, PT only just got 32-bit float mix engine, ability to handle stereo files and clip gain in recent history. Surely any ONE of those is off-putting enough to warrant abandoning a DAW.. but they have an active and hungry marketing team.

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Out of interest, I would welcome your opinion on my FR, if you have the time to glance it over.
The one in your signature? Already voted for it.
I hate that feeling of the automated fader fighting with your finger.
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:47 PM   #82
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I disagree. I'm sure it has more to do with marketing that a couple default. I mean, for Christ's sake, PT only just got 32-bit float mix engine, ability to handle stereo files and clip gain in recent history. Surely any ONE of those is off-putting enough to warrant abandoning a DAW.. but they have an active and hungry marketing team.


The one in your signature? Already voted for it.
I hate that feeling of the automated fader fighting with your finger.
Me too! Cheers.
I understand your point about marketing and have considered this. I came to Reaper having used Pro Tools predominantly for years, and previously a digital console with Tascam hard disk 2424's (the audio equivalent of betamax?)
Though I love Reaper, there just ARE some strange defaults, (I think it's possible to say some things aren't just personal taste). Specifically the Midi, and to a lesser extent the automation. When I saw your points on PT I didn't think they were as off-putting because they aren't as fundamentally linked to the immediate user experience (in my opinion). I understand some may disagree. Clearly, they were slow with the 32 bit issue, and clip gain is lovely. Stereo files issue totally indifferent to me. But I won't ramble on. All good in the hood. Reaper is still an amazing piece of software. And you and many others are clearly getting on very well with it!
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:01 PM   #83
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i feel it already has too many (for me) unhelpful default settings for new users who are used to other DAW's or digital mixers.
said everyone trying every new DAW ever
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This should take NO more than an hour or two of coding at most to fix. PLEASE add the feature to limit the number of backups. Here is an example script that will take "Rotate" and limit the number of backups. It runs as a cron job and gets rid of the older backups past the number in "Rotate"

We don't even need any renaming, just throw out any files more than the number given. Set "Keep Num Backups" = 20, you got 21 backups it throws out the oldest one saving a HUGE amount of drive space.

BACKUP_DIR=/path
TSTAMP=`date +%Y%m%d`
FILENAME=$BACKUP_DIR/$DB_NAME.gz
Notify=1
Rotate=31
logfile=$BACKUP_DIR/backup.log
echo ".............Backup Script Running on $TSTAMP............" >> $logfile

let i=$Rotate-1
if [ -f "$FILENAME.$Rotate" ];then
echo "$FILENAME.$Rotate Found,Deleting" >> $logfile
rm -rf $FILENAME.$Rotate
else
echo "$FILENAME.$Rotate Not Found, Not Removing" >> $logfile
fi

while [ $i -ge 1 ]
do
let j=$i+1;
if [ -f "$FILENAME.$i" ];then
echo $FILENAME.$i exists and is being moved to $FILENAME.$j >> $logfile
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said everyone trying every new DAW ever
Does any other daw/digital console not allow you to ride a fader easily once automation there, without an impractical faff? Not that i know of. Does any other daw create new note ons when you split midi? Absurd as a default IMO.And the time based default settings for items aren't practical for most people, if the forums are to be believed. I have found pro tools, logic, cubase at least had me working more quickly with less barriers, sensewise.
But that's my last post on the matter. I'm comfortable if my opinion differs from others, fair dos.
Hope they get round to implementing the autosave limit option in the meantime!
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This should take NO more than an hour or two of coding at most to fix. PLEASE add the feature to limit the number of backups. Here is an example script that will take "Rotate" and limit the number of backups. It runs as a cron job and gets rid of the older backups past the number in "Rotate"

We don't even need any renaming, just throw out any files more than the number given. Set "Keep Num Backups" = 20, you got 21 backups it throws out the oldest one saving a HUGE amount of drive space.
I personally would like to keep one per day in addition to x in total.
The last project file of the day should ALWAYS be kept, because with the currently proposed system, I would have nothing from the day before after a couple hours of work.
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I personally would like to keep one per day in addition to x in total.
The last project file of the day should ALWAYS be kept, because with the currently proposed system, I would have nothing from the day before after a couple hours of work.
I think it is good practice to save frequently also.

What I do, is that i'll save with a number system, and also a short explanation of what I just did.

This is in case, I do something, and want something from a previous version, or, If I have plugin issues or something, I know where I can go back, to before those issues.

So, in a sense, I'm quite good at doing backups, and I almost don't need automatic backups at all.

However, I backup manually after a large change, once I complete something, or something like that.

All I need the automatic backups for, really, is if something like the power goes out while I'm in teh middle of something, or something crashes, or something like that. Then I won't lose any work and I'll be able to catch up almost exactly where I left off.

So, I only need say, 3 autobackups. I would say one, but if for some reason I have some plugin that is causing me issues or something like that, and then it autosaves after I've used it, and it crashes every time, then i can only have one backup to go to before my last save, and that one saved the problem into it.

That's not ideal. So, I'd say 3 backups, and you should be good.

For your end of the day, I find you should really backup automatically.

Maybe you have backups sent to a separate drive rather than a drive failure? Then that makes sense, and that is good practice, but it is also not a bad idea to have this done by some backup program that will catch all your presets, and config changes, and absolutely everything.
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With such scripting capabilities as we already have in Reaper, why not let the user define their own function bool keepbackup (file_time) and include a couple of stock choices? Everyone would be happy.
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With such scripting capabilities as we already have in Reaper, why not let the user define their own function bool keepbackup (file_time) and include a couple of stock choices? Everyone would be happy.
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With such scripting capabilities as we already have in Reaper, why not let the user define their own function bool keepbackup (file_time) and include a couple of stock choices? Everyone would be happy.
OH GOD YES.
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With such scripting capabilities as we already have in Reaper, why not let the user define their own function bool keepbackup (file_time) and include a couple of stock choices? Everyone would be happy.
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OH GOD YES.
But only the power users would know it exists, or how to use it. Totally useless for a new user, as is the existing default of no backups.
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Right, Just put a couple of settings in prefs and be done with it.

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But only the power users would know it exists, or how to use it. Totally useless for a new user, as is the existing default of no backups.
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Right, Just put a couple of settings in prefs and be done with it.
That would be ideal. And really it should be that way, but if someone makes a solution I can use. My issue will be solved.
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But only the power users would know it exists, or how to use it. Totally useless for a new user, as is the existing default of no backups.
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and include a couple of stock choices
Anyway, that was just an idea. It would be super cool to integrate this kind of scripting throughout Reaper although customer support would be a nightmare.
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It would be nice to be able to tell Reaper, in addition to how frequently project backups are created, that when X # of backups has been reached, it will write over or eliminate the older ones.
And some thinning options.
Like keep max one per day if older than x days
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Just do something, anything beats all these back files.
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Bump for V5.

Could we please have this? Shouldn't be that hard to implement, and it's a life-saver.
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They constantly miss the most obvious shit. FIX THIS ALREADY!
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I've decided to give this thread a bump every time I run into this problem. Maybe something gives then.
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Yeah, thanks for the reminder. Will clean up my autosave folder now.
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Cherry pick this super easy to implement set of prefs devs!
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And some thinning options.
Like keep max one per day if older than x days
Yes, please.
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Where's the like button around here?
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plus 1 here too!
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Have been off the recording grid for a while.. any news here, amigos?
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Still nothing on this?
It is should be No1 feature to chose from for next update.
My SSD hates Reaper Media folder because I always forget to clean it up.
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Just deleted 30,000 backup files, which took 50GB of space.

The relative backups folder is at least an improvement though, visually, at any rate.
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while it would be nice if reaper managed this, you can automate clean up very easily and never have to worry about it again.
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while it would be nice if reaper managed this, you can automate clean up very easily and never have to worry about it again.
That doesn't sound safe to me. If I kept the 5 most recent backups of any given project, that would be perfect.

I'm not sure about the strategy you are referring to, but if I'm not sure I'm ready to delete a backup, I don't want it to be deleted.

I don't even like cleaning up the way I have to. I'd be much more comfortable if the 5 most recent backups were always kept.
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2018 bump

Especially Dan's idea there for daily backups that stay out of the rotation
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Especially Dan's idea there for daily backups that stay out of the rotation
Anything ! Years are going by.......
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Since 2011 we have been patiently hoping for this.
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2021 TTT
I just tried to vote on the FR from page one and it gives me a 500 error.
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We are still waiting for this...
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Am currently deleting 120 Gigs of backups. Over 5% of my hard drive was Reaper Backups lol. Damn.

Another stat: 50% of the files in my reaper projects folder were backup files.

This includes all the projects I had long ago finished and cleaned of backups.

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