Old 03-23-2012, 02:16 PM   #1
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Inspired by the too many plug-ins thread. If you could ONLY make music/mix with 5 plugs what would they be? Instrument or effect.

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Waves - API Comp

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Old 03-23-2012, 02:23 PM   #2
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The Glue, Vintagewarmer, reaeq, floaty, synth1

I reckon 90% of my plugins are just those.
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:26 PM   #3
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fabfilter saturn

Fabfilter Pro C

FAbfilter PRO Q

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Guitar rig (make almost everything - delay, eq, comp, lim, reverb, split, LFO, disortion)
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:27 PM   #4
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ReaComp, ReaEq, Sonitus Delay, ReaVerb and Waves L1
(Would be different if I had more cpu..)
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u-he Diva, AudioRealism Bassline 2, AudioRealism Drum Machine, UAD Moog Multimode Filter.

The entire classic techno rig, right there. Done for life.

BIRDIE! :P

Now, if you force me into a crap sounding room, I'd also pick an UAD Lexicon 224 at -30dB or so. you'd hardly hear it's there though. Is that cheating?

NO DYNAMICS OR EQ NEEDED IF YOU ALREADY HAVE BEST-IN-CLASS SATURATION AND FILTERS *AND GET YOUR FREAKING PATCHES AND ARRANGEMENTS RIGHT.*

(otherwise, you suck at recording, programming synths, composing, arranging, mixing, or any combination of them)

If you give me a great sounding natural room / space, I might occasionally break away from the classic rig and throw in a Sonic Charge µTonic, just for the freaking fun of it.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:36 PM   #6
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NO DYNAMICS OR EQ NEEDED IF YOU ALREADY HAVE BEST-IN-CLASS SATURATION AND FILTERS *AND GET YOUR FREAKING PATCHES AND ARRANGEMENTS RIGHT.*
FOR electronic music perhaps...

I don't think it's the same reality with Rock, METAL or other complex music ;-)

just for example... listen to this track "panem & circences" and explain me how to mix it without eq or dynamics http://www.hyphen8.be/fr_home.html
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:44 PM   #7
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I could get by with none. That's right. Zero. Beat that. I would copy and nudge waves around as to create my audio effects by hand. I would be a man and ride faders instead of relying on compressors - there's your glue, baby. All of my sound sources would come from nature and banging on household objects, and instead of using a sampler, I would chop up my sound sources and arrange them in such ways to make any sampler blush. What, no flanger? I would swing my microphones around in circles above my sound sources. All ambiences would be from distant miking only. We're really getting carried away with all of this plugin stuff.

Ok, I'll play:

Any decent sampler (it doesn't really matter, as long as it doesn't sound like a clown)
NastyDLA, or any other decent delay
Any decent reverb (I don't care, you pick)
Reaeq, or any other decent eq
Reacomp, or any other versatile compressor....I suck at compression any way.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:04 PM   #8
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1) Amplitube 3 to cover the bass and guitar amplification

2) IK CSR reverb suite to cover the reverb
I'm cheating there because, strictly, the hall, plate and room are separate VSTs

3) ReaEq for the EQ

4) Probably Addictive Drums for the drums. Although I like Drumasonic (in Kontakt), but I'd need a few more VSTs to process it.

5) Voxengo Elephant as the master limiter

Which means I've got no keyboards

If I could choose a few more, it would be True Pianos (Piano), VB3 (organ) and Reaktor (synths). I choose Reaktor for the range of synths, but my general go to analog synth is Ultra Analog and my general go to FM synth is FM8.

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Old 03-23-2012, 04:06 PM   #9
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ReaComp, ReaEQ, ReaTune, Shred, EVM Bassline

Yes... definitely my five most used plugins
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You guys are killin' me today
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FOR electronic music perhaps...
Well, it wasn't part of the question, that I should be able to make *your* favorite music with them.
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I don't think it's the same reality with Rock, METAL or other complex music ;-)

just for example... listen to this track "panem & circences" and explain me how to mix it without eq or dynamics http://www.hyphen8.be/fr_home.html
Sorry, I prefer not to run any Flash in my browser. I'm gonna look it up though, so thanks for the tip - I still have a sweet spot for good metal but haven't been following the scene at all.

But to return to the question, which I'll just try to answer more generally: half the answer is to use (more powerful types of) filters to modify the frequency (than the ones we generally call 'EQ' - there isn't much any EQ can do that I can't do with a series of Moog filters), and doing the same with overdrive/saturation instead of compression to create harmonics.

The other half is that corrective use of eq/dynamics is treating the symptom, not the cause: the frequencies overlap too much / the input levels are too loud or soft. Adjust the timbres of the instruments and arrange the parts better so they don't clash, and make better use of dynamics while playing (play some notes louder, some softer, i.e. play it better). Mind you, recording engineers owe much of their place in the food chain to poor musicians and poor composers/arrangers.

I remember from the days when I played metal that most poorly sounding recordings were just poor performances of poor arrangements on poorly sounding instruments (everybody turning 'their' volumes up to the max). When the music is right, I don't even hear how bad it's recorded (early Sly Stone? *Awesome*. Imagine it being fucked up with corrective EQ and dynamics processing... the horror!)
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:23 PM   #12
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1)Nebula (Ok, that's cheating. But I use console and tape emus, so those aren't REALLY fx, right?
2)The Rocket
3)1973
4)Barricade
5)GTS-39 Sknote comp
6)Valhalla Room
7)Valhalla UberMod
8).... oops, only 5. My bad........
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:28 PM   #13
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LOL!!!!!!

Yeah, 5 plug ins......you mean, this week?
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:31 PM   #14
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1 Valhalla Uber mod ( or Valhalla Room undecided)
2 reasamplomatic
3 channel strip plugin with a compressor/limiter/eq combo ( haha cheating on this 1 )Teamdnr mixcontrol maybe ?
4 drumsampler like Poise
5 Zebra2 hope to purchase soon

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Old 03-23-2012, 05:41 PM   #15
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Some hard choices had to be made!!LOL
UBK-1
MDynamicEQ
Soundtoys bundle (cheating, I know)
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:43 PM   #16
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EZMix2

EZDrummer

Jamstix

Synth1

HybridReverb


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Old 03-23-2012, 05:48 PM   #17
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That's pretty much what I use day to day:

1 - Reaeq
2 - Reacomp
3 - Reaverb
4 - Bombardier
5 - LOSER/MGA_JSlimiterST

Hmmm I need reagate too
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:51 PM   #18
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1. Kontakt - Load more instruments

2. Amplitube - Load more amps

3. Ozone - I guess. All in one mastering suite. I personally don't use it, but if I had to choose five, I guess I'd include this.

4. Hypersonic 2 - The ONLY Sycrosoft (or dongle using) protected plugin I have. I'm looking for something else that isn't Halion Sonic. I've thought about Omnisphere, but based on what I hear, that's not the kind of sounds I use often. I use mainly natural instruments with an "unnatural" synth on a rare occasion. To me, H2 is *STILL* the best as far as natural instruments go.

5. Nebula - Eventhough I've never used this (but plan on buying it in the near future), I hear awesome things about it and understand what it's capable of.
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:26 PM   #19
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Superior Drummer
Komplete (that's probably cheating, isn't it?)
ReaComp
ReaEq
Omnisphere

This list will change tomorrow.
And the next day.
And the next...
And...
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5. Nebula - Eventhough I've never used this (but plan on buying it in the near future), I hear awesome things about it and understand what it's capable of.
THIS!!!!!^^^^^^ hahaha! There is so much win in this phrase! Why are you not over in my "do we need less vst's" thread??
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Tls_maximizer
ReaEQ
PodFarm Platinum
EZDrummer (with expansion packs)


And a compressor.... Can't decide on which one.
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Tls_maximizer
ReaEQ
PodFarm Platinum
EZDrummer (with expansion packs)


And a compressor.... Can't decide on which one.
THE GLUE, THE GLUE! (no really, it's fracking cool)
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Old 03-23-2012, 08:13 PM   #23
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ReaEQ

ReaGate

PushTec EQ

GlaceVerb

Toss up between

TBT TLs_Maximizer or Grease Tube, either one will work.....
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Not that difficult a choice:

1. WizooVerb2 or 2CAudio Breeze
2. FabFilter Pro-Q
3. FabFilter Pro-C
4. FabFilter Timeless 2
5. ADT

I don't own Breeze right now but will be buying it to replace WizooVerb when I make the move to 64-bit. I don't use many plugins.
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THIS!!!!!^^^^^^ hahaha! There is so much win in this phrase! Why are you not over in my "do we need less vst's" thread??
OMG. This is correct. If I had to really only pick 5, 4 of them might be some Nebula libraries..... as long as I can include all of Stillwell Audio as 1 plugin.... (That other thread of yours is both hilarious and poignant).
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But I love it, here this one is perfect for me

-alloy
-the glue
-saturn
-renbass
-diva

I don't own any of these yet except for renbass, but I'm certain they will be my favorites!

The spirit is alive I tell you!
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:23 PM   #27
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i just mixed a bunch of stuff in harrison mixbus and the only plugin i used was readelay. that leaves 4 undecided...
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But I love it, here this one is perfect for me

-alloy
-the glue
-saturn
-renbass
-diva

I don't own any of these yet except for renbass, but I'm certain they will be my favorites!

The spirit is alive I tell you!
Excuse me if I come off as an airhead or paranoid here, but I sense a lot of sarcasm in this post, especially the last two sentences, and if it's what I think it is, I find it to be very condensending. I see what you're getting at, and while I may not like what you're saying, I'm not going to let you get the reaction you're obviously looking for.

Basically, it just seems to me that he's saying (rather screaming in our ears) "you don't own the plugin, but it'll be your favorite ever!!".

I could be completely wrong here, and I don't want to start any trouble here, but like....yeah....your posts are coming off in pretty bad light.

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n/m

doesn't matter..........just need to write it off...........

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Okay, here's the problem.

This is just an internet post. It's nothing concrete. If you find it to be that serious and concrete, I strongly suggest you step away from the computer for a minute or two and experience the real world.

I was just saying, for the sake of the post, that I'd like to have it as it's a "multi-effect" (meaning, you'd get many effects in one).

However, I did not, at any point in time, say it'll be my favorite plugin, that's your own assuming and putting words in my mouth that I never said nor implied. In case you misunderstood, I simply said that I hear awesome things about it, and I understand what it's capable of.
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Okay, here's the problem.

This is just an internet post. It's nothing concrete. If you find it to be that serious and concrete, I strongly suggest you step away from the computer for a minute or two and experience the real world.

I was just saying, for the sake of the post, that I'd like to have it as it's a "multi-effect" (meaning, you'd get many effects in one).

However, I did not, at any point in time, say it'll be my favorite plugin, that's your own assuming and putting words in my mouth that I never said nor implied. In case you misunderstood, I simply said that I hear awesome things about it, and I understand what it's capable of.
Or just nevermind and I'm sorry and really was just having fun and didn't mean anything bad by it. In fact, I loved it because it goes hand-in-hand with my idea of "fuck yeah, it's gonna be killer/can't wait" theory.

Just forget it, more epic fail
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SSL Channel strip(Waves)
Renesaince DeEsser(Waves)
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ReaEQ
ReaComp
Nebula (Doc Fear EQ and Plate Reverb)
Molot
ReaDelay


There are a couple more that I regularly use, but I could do everything I need with these.


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I'm too stupid to figure out molot. Looks great though and thumbs up to a donationware product being x64!
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Or just nevermind and I'm sorry and really was just having fun and didn't mean anything bad by it. In fact, I loved it because it goes hand-in-hand with my idea of "fuck yeah, it's gonna be killer/can't wait" theory.

Just forget it, more epic fail
See, I replied to this thread without reading your other thread about needing less plugins. Now, I see where you're coming from. It all depends on the person and how they view things. This kind of thinking of "I can't wait for it, it'll be my favorite" applies to anything in life. Not just VSTs. However on the side of the coin, it also potentially sets up a disappointment.

As far as needing less plugins, I have a lot of plugins, mostly free. I don't use a lot of them, so naturally, I'm going to get rid of them to free up whatever HD space they occupied. Soon. Hopefully. (eventhough I'm on 500 GB here, all those free ones I don't use add up)

To me, it's just apart of keeping what I use the most and getting rid of what I don't.
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It was just me playing around. I really didn't even mean to snap back, it wasn't directed at YOU persay, it was just me being the ham I frequently am.
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..... it was just me being the ham I frequently am.
Mmmmm.....Bacon..........
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Seriously though, those 5 I mentioned will be my new fab 5...........wait.........wait.............fab 4.........sorry. I'm not getting diva (ooops)
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1) Amplitube 3 to cover the bass and guitar amplification

2) IK CSR reverb suite to cover the reverb
I'm cheating there because, strictly, the hall, plate and room are separate VSTs

3) ReaEq for the EQ

4) Probably Addictive Drums for the drums. Although I like Drumasonic (in Kontakt), but I'd need a few more VSTs to process it.

5) Voxengo Elephant as the master limiter

Which means I've got no keyboards

If I could choose a few more, it would be True Pianos (Piano), VB3 (organ) and Reaktor (synths). I choose Reaktor for the range of synths, but my general go to analog synth is Ultra Analog and my general go to FM synth is FM8.

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Thumbs up on both True Pianos and VB3. They are astoundingly good!
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