v5.983+dev0829a - August 29 2019

Neutronic · 08-29-2019, 07:59 PM

v5.983+dev0829a - August 29 2019
+ MIDI editor: combine note properties and event properties into one modeless dialog
+ MIDI: support linear and curve CC envelopes

v5.983+dev0829 - August 29 2019
+ Main window: allow positioning TCP on right side of arrange

nofish · 08-29-2019, 08:53 PM

Modeless properties dialog:

Maybe nitpick: when having the window open, e.g. Position and Value are updated immediately, but Bezier tension needs 'update triggering' by doing something else like moving the point (as in gif) or closing / reopening window.

EvilDragon · 08-29-2019, 09:56 PM

Wooooohooooo! It's back!

EvilDragon · 08-29-2019, 10:12 PM

About the new modeless properties dialog: there might be some usability issues with this when using the option to move CCs with notes, CCs get selected as soon as notes are selected. Which will make it hard to tweak JUST the note data or JUST the CC data, because event properties dialog will always show "mixed". Maybe it could be smarter and focus on note or CC data depending on where last mouse cursor focus was - the piano roll or CC lane areas?

EvilDragon · 08-29-2019, 10:15 PM

Also, it would be really great if there'd be a native option to convert freehand drawn CC curve to as fewer Bezier nodes as possible. Sort of similar to "Reduce envelope point data when recording or drawing automation" option.

Soli Deo Gloria · 08-30-2019, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Also, it would be really great if there'd be a native option to convert freehand drawn CC curve to as fewer Bezier nodes as possible. Sort of similar to "Reduce envelope point data when recording or drawing automation" option.

I totally agree with ED; that would be extremely useful to streamline MIDI editing.

Thanks so much, by the way, for the return of linear and curved CC envelopes!! Already using it...

Chris7t6 · 08-30-2019, 12:21 AM

v5.983+dev0829 - August 29 2019
+ Main window: allow positioning TCP on right side of arrange

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This is REALLY cool!!! Thankyou!

Could we please have the ability to do this with the FX chain window as well??

strachupl · 08-30-2019, 03:24 AM

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+ Main window: allow positioning TCP on right side of arrange

Graphic shaking on right side of panel. To consider if panel on right side should be mirror flipped.

puddi · 08-30-2019, 03:27 AM

This update is gold, Jerry! Gold!

srdmusic · 09-02-2019, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris7t6

v5.983+dev0829 - August 29 2019
+ Main window: allow positioning TCP on right side of arrange

This is REALLY cool!!! Thankyou!

Could we please have the ability to do this with the FX chain window as well??[/QUOTE]

You can put the the FX chain in the right hand pane by docking your FX chain and moving it to the right hand dock.

Chris7t6 · 09-02-2019, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by srdmusic

This is REALLY cool!!! Thankyou!

Could we please have the ability to do this with the FX chain window as well??

You can put the the FX chain in the right hand pane by docking your FX chain and moving it to the right hand dock.[/QUOTE]

Correct. However, I’m speaking of the file/folder tree. It would be cool if that could live on the right side of the fx chain window. I like having the fx chain window opened opposed to just floating fx. It’s not a big deal really but it would be cool to have the actual fx GUI be the first thing I see when scanning left to right rather than the file folders. Honestly the FX list could go on the top or bottom as well. Just an idea.

P.S. - hey, Devs. Maybe we could get those dockable tool bars in the FX chain window as well...��

jeffsanders · 09-09-2019, 01:02 PM

How do you move the tcp to the right?

PhelixK · 09-09-2019, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffsanders

How do you move the tcp to the right?

Use action to toggle placement:
Show TCP on right side of arrange

FX List, aligned to the right:
Preferences pane > Plug-ins > Show FX list on right side

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dupont · 08-30-2019, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Neutronic

v5.983+dev0829a - August 29 2019

+ MIDI: support linear and curve CC envelopes

this makes my day

YuriOl · 08-30-2019, 04:49 AM

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+ MIDI support linear and curve CC envelopes

Super! Thank you!!!

Soli Deo Gloria · 08-30-2019, 04:53 AM

Another thing : there doesn´t seem to be a way set default shape of CC events via action list, does it? That is also really needed in my opinion; right now I can only see that option in the preferences...

Edit : Copying and Pasting of CC events in different lanes doesn´t respect their corresponding shapes. Pasted events show square shapes only, at least here.

puddi · 08-30-2019, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Soli Deo Gloria

Edit : Copying and Pasting of CC events in different lanes doesn´t respect their corresponding shapes. Pasted events show square shapes only, at least here.

Yup, can confirm. Happens when pasting in same lane too.

Shootkin · 08-30-2019, 09:06 AM

Found a nasty bug. Buttons for the Filter and for Event Properties do not update the status change:

gofer · 08-30-2019, 09:41 AM

CC shapes and conversions seem to work nicely as far as I can tell after some quick testing.

Is there a way to control the density of interpolated events? Ideally it would spit out more dense events on steeper segments and vice versa, i think.

nappies · 08-30-2019, 05:24 AM

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+ Main window allow positioning TCP on right side of arrange

Ohh thank you Devs!Now I can make fully identical ableton theme for my config.

FnA · 09-01-2019, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutronic

+ MIDI editor: combine note properties and event properties into one modeless dialog

In 5.983, you can set note properties in secondary editable items. Not in this pre, or the next. (Undo does not work right in these secondary items cases in the official version however.)