ideas to make ampsims more real?

[vejichan]

Believe it not I have been playing amp sims for 2 years..it was nt until recently that I changed the buffer size from 512 to 128..made a huge difference. Any other suggestions?

[cerendir]

Originally Posted by vejichan

Believe it not I have been playing amp sims for 2 years..it was nt until recently that I changed the buffer size from 512 to 128..made a huge difference. Any other suggestions?

512 is pretty high for playing live through an amp sim. I usually run mine at 256 which admittedly is high too according to some people, but I'm lazy and don't want to keep jumping around between buffer sizes. And I've gotten used to it.

Not sure I understand the question though... make amp sims more real? In what sense? In the playing sense or in the sound quality/realism sense? Or both?

[Daniovan]

Check out Recabinet. Great response, great sound. Amp sims without cab sims
do not sound well in most cases !
128 256 512 -well, it depends on your Audio interface , the drivers
and your processor, I guess, I am fine with 512 (no perceivable latency), sometimes 256,
at times 128, the more plugins I use the higher my buffer size.

A big disadvantage of amp sim plugins compared to real ones is the fact
they do not serve as a seat ;-)

[cerendir]

Originally Posted by Daniovan

Amp sims without cab sims do not sound well in most cases !

Yeah, a good cab IR is the Alpha and the Omega. Good IR's will make even the shoddiest amp sim sound decent, whereas a shoddy IR will make even the best amp sims sound like crap.

[DVDdoug]

ideas to make ampsims more real?

Bigger monitors to make it LOUDER?

With so many guitar/pickup/amp/room combinations, almost every guitar setup sounds different (and that's before even considering effects), so most of the time it should be hard to tell if you are listening to a recording made with an (unknown) amp and microphone, or a recording made with a (unknown) sim.

Of course if you have your favorite amp, it's going to be tricky to simulate that exactly.

If we're talking about live sound, volume does have a lot to do with it. And, room sound... So if you're listening to a sim & headphones, it's not likely to sound realistic.

I changed the buffer size from 512 to 128..made a huge difference.

That won't change the sound character/quality at all, unless there are problems with the smaller buffer.

It will affect the latency (delay) so it may be easier for you to play (or you may play better) with a shorter buffer.

[cerendir]

Originally Posted by DVDdoug

it should be hard to tell if you are listening to a recording made with an (unknown) amp and microphone, or a recording made with a (unknown) sim.

...or to add even more confusion, it could be the preamp out of an actual physical amp into a software cab sim. Or a software amp sim run through the power amp in of a physical amp + cab.

[sostenuto]

Originally Posted by cerendir

Yeah, a good cab IR is the Alpha and the Omega. Good IR's will make even the shoddiest amp sim sound decent, whereas a shoddy IR will make even the best amp sims sound like crap.

Not aware of Alpha & Omega IR. Will keep searching, but could use a Link

[sostenuto]

Originally Posted by Daniovan

Check out Recabinet. Great response, great sound. Amp sims without cab sims
do not sound well in most cases !
128 256 512 -well, it depends on your Audio interface , the drivers
and your processor, I guess, I am fine with 512 (no perceivable latency), sometimes 256,
at times 128, the more plugins I use the higher my buffer size.

A big disadvantage of amp sim plugins compared to real ones is the fact
they do not serve as a seat ;-)

No problem at all with Recabinet4 .... love it!

Also keep testing Torpedo Studio Wall of Sound III. Have only a few Cabs, but they have a terrific special on now thru NAMM dates __ eg_ 10 cabs for <$40.. Any comments or criticisms ??
Looks like they have a decent reputation for their hardware??

[brainwreck]

Recabinet needs room simulation. Sure, if you're playing metal, you probably don't want any room sound in the mix, but lots of other types of tones just don't work with dry only.

[brainwreck]

I just happened onto this gadget that produces sustain and feedback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgaquPdTHCs

Very cool, and it could be useful when working with amp sims.

[sostenuto]

Originally Posted by brainwreck

Recabinet needs room simulation. Sure, if you're playing metal, you probably don't want any room sound in the mix, but lots of other types of tones just don't work with dry only.

Naive keyboardist ... so follow info from good guys here. Assumed I would always add NadIR, or Poulin LeCab2 after Recab4 or Torpedo WoS III .... plus stuff from growing IR Folder (Red Wire Impulses, Gregor Henning IRs, others ..). Isn't this the deal ??

Keep that Vibeware GR-1 beam well away from your important parts!!

[Daniovan]

Originally Posted by brainwreck

Recabinet needs room simulation. Sure, if you're playing metal, you probably don't want any room sound in the mix, but lots of other types of tones just don't work with dry only.

Why not using a (good)) reverb to simulate a room ?-!

[jerome_oneil]

/ drops mic
// walks off stage

[brainwreck]

Originally Posted by jerome_oneil

/ drops mic
// walks off stage

Get out of here with your sanity.

[Daniovan]

Originally Posted by sostenuto

No problem at all with Recabinet4 .... love it!

Also keep testing Torpedo Studio Wall of Sound III. Have only a few Cabs, but they have a terrific special on now thru NAMM dates __ eg_ 10 cabs for <$40.. Any comments or criticisms ??
Looks like they have a decent reputation for their hardware??

Please give alink to that offer - a link is always nice

[sostenuto]

Originally Posted by Daniovan

Please give alink to that offer - a link is always nice

Sounds like only thru Sunday Jan 24?
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http://store.two-notes.com/index.php

[brainwreck]

S-gear guys, here is my best fake tweed sound, using an unnamed amp sim (because it isn't important). No big reverb gimmicky, or anything else. Just an amp sim with some harmonic eq. Can someone show me what s-gear does? https://app.box.com/s/6chbsiy9re97vak2tslvmxtz7oev1x0z