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06-17-2021, 01:52 PM
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#13801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
These are clearing the same as the Name display Incidentally, is there any way we can access the third Pre/Post option, PreFX or are we strictly toggle? (which is fine by me btw)
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For now, just the two.
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06-17-2021, 01:53 PM
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#13802
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
For now, just the two.
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Not a problem, not used to having anymore anyway
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06-17-2021, 01:54 PM
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#13803
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New build is up.
CSI Exp.zip
Possible fix for:
Code:
FaderTouch+DisplayLower| TrackReceiveVolumeDisplay
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06-17-2021, 01:54 PM
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#13804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freex
What are the exact names, I've tried a few variants but no success.
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Code:
SomeButton FXMenuSlotBank -1
SomeotherButton FXMenuSlotBank 1
Here are my C4 Zones:
Code:
Zone "Home"
OnInitialization SetReceiveGoZone
OnInitialization SetReceiveGoFXSlot
OnInitialization SetReceiveMapTrackFXMenusSlotToWidgets
OnInitialization SetReceiveMapTrackSendsSlotToWidgets
OnInitialization SetReceiveMapTrackReceivesSlotToWidgets
IncludedZones
"Buttons"
"SelectedTrackFXMenu"
"SelectedTrackSend"
"SelectedTrackReceive"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Code:
Zone "Buttons"
Marker Shift
Track Option
ChanStrip Control
Function Alt
Lock MapSelectedTrackFXToMenu
Lock MapSelectedTrackSendsToWidgets
Lock MapSelectedTrackReceivesToWidgets
Shift+Lock Reaper "_S&M_FXBYPALL" //Toggle all FX bypass for selected track
SpotErase Reaper "_S&M_TOGLFXCHAIN" //Toggle FX Chain for selected tracks
Split Reaper "_S&M_WNCLS4" //Close all FX chain windows
Split Reaper "_S&M_WNCLS3" //Close all floating FX windows
FXButton1 NoAction
FXButton2 NoAction
FXButton3 NoAction
FXButton4 NoAction
ChannelLeft FXMenuSlotBank -1
ChannelLeft Reaper "_S&M_SELFXPREV"
ChannelRight FXMenuSlotBank 1
ChannelRight Reaper "_S&M_SELFXNEXT"
ZoneEnd
Code:
Zone "SelectedTrackReceive"
SelectedTrackReceiveNavigator
DisplayUpperB| TrackReceiveNameDisplay
DisplayLowerB| TrackReceiveVolumeDisplay
RotaryB| TrackReceiveVolume
RotaryPushB| TrackReceiveMute
ZoneEnd
Code:
Zone "SelectedTrackSend"
SelectedTrackSendNavigator
DisplayUpperC| TrackSendNameDisplay
DisplayLowerC| TrackSendVolumeDisplay
RotaryC| TrackSendVolume [ (0.001,0.02,0.04,0.06,0.1) ]
RotaryPushC| TrackSendMute
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06-17-2021, 02:15 PM
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#13805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
New build is up.
CSI Exp.zip
Possible fix for:
Code:
FaderTouch+DisplayLower| TrackReceiveVolumeDisplay
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No luck, I'm afraid. The MCU display doesn't change when the fader is touched, but receive volume readout on the C4 disappears and a few seconds later the receive fader (and C4 Rotary) move to zero.
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06-17-2021, 02:43 PM
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#13806
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New build is up.
CSI Exp.zip
Put things back the way they were, at least Touch is just broken itself, it doesn't break other things.
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06-17-2021, 02:44 PM
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#13807
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
No luck, I'm afraid. The MCU display doesn't change when the fader is touched, but receive volume readout on the C4 disappears and a few seconds later the receive fader (and C4 Rotary) move to zero.
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OK, other than that, are receives working properly ?
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06-17-2021, 03:03 PM
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#13808
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
OK, other than that, are receives working properly ?
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As far as I can tell, yes
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06-17-2021, 04:02 PM
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#13809
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New build is up
CSI Exp.zip
Try out TrackSendNameDisplay with all Navigators and see what you find
[edit] Actually, check out TrackSendVolumeDisplay too !
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Last edited by Geoff Waddington; 06-17-2021 at 04:19 PM.
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06-17-2021, 04:22 PM
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#13810
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
New build is up
CSI Exp.zip
Try out TrackSendNameDisplay with all Navigators and see what you find
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SendSlotNavigator, everything clearing.
SelectedTrackNavigator, TrackSendNameDisplay and TrackSendVolume clearing, TrackSendPan and TrackSendPrePost not clearing.
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06-17-2021, 04:23 PM
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#13811
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
SendSlotNavigator, everything clearing.
SelectedTrackNavigator, TrackSendNameDisplay and TrackSendVolume clearing, TrackSendPan and TrackSendPrePost not clearing.
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Excellent, as expected, will work on TrackSendPan and TrackSendPrePost.
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06-17-2021, 04:37 PM
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#13812
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New build is up.
CSI Exp.zip
Try TrackSendPan and TrackSendPrePost now.
And please check Touch Send Volume Display as well, thanks
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06-17-2021, 05:15 PM
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#13813
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If you saw any posts from me about everything not working...ignore those. You don't want to install the CSI 1.0 into your CSI 1.1 Portable Install as I just did.
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06-17-2021, 05:20 PM
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#13814
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
New build is up.
CSI Exp.zip
Try TrackSendPan and TrackSendPrePost now.
And please check Touch Send Volume Display as well, thanks
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TrackSendPan and TrackSendPrePost clearing now. Touch Send Volume display working (I think it was before).
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06-17-2021, 05:24 PM
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#13815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
TrackSendPan and TrackSendPrePost clearing now. Touch Send Volume display working (I think it was before).
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Great !
So FX is up next.
Are there any bugs / clearing issues, etc. with all the various permutations and combinations of Navigators and methods of accessing FX ?
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06-17-2021, 05:26 PM
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Hold on for just a sec, I just started seeing some SelectedTrackReceiveNavigator wierdness.
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06-17-2021, 05:34 PM
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#13817
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I'm only seeing a receive level display for the first track (in the project). After that the receive level display is blank (on the C4) but the Rotaries (on the C4) still control receive level.
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06-17-2021, 05:35 PM
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#13818
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I think you guys covered this earlier but:
Using SelectedTrackReceive (OSC) and SelectedTrackReceiveSlot (MIDI)...
1. ReceiveVolumeDisplay isn't working (shows -150db on OSC, blank on MIDI)
2. ...this might explain why FaderTouch+DisplayLower1 TrackReceiveVolumeDisplay also isn't registering the touch. It may not be the touch that's broke but the volume display.
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06-17-2021, 05:35 PM
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#13819
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
I'm only seeing a receive level display for the first track (in the project). After that the receive level display is blank (on the C4) but the Rotaries (on the C4) still control receive level.
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Does SelectedTrackSendNavigator exhibit the same behaviour ?
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06-17-2021, 05:37 PM
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#13820
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkybot
I think you guys covered this earlier but:
Using SelectedTrackReceive (OSC) and SelectedTrackReceiveSlot (MIDI)...
1. ReceiveVolumeDisplay isn't working (shows -150db on OSC, blank on MIDI)
2. ...this might explain why FaderTouch+DisplayLower1 TrackReceiveVolumeDisplay also isn't registering the touch. It may not be the touch that's broke but the volume display.
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Yup, or a combination of the two
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06-17-2021, 05:37 PM
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#13821
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
I'm only seeing a receive level display for the first track (in the project).
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Track receives on track 1? You just made my brain explode.
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06-17-2021, 05:38 PM
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#13822
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
Does SelectedTrackSendNavigator exhibit the same behaviour ?
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Sends are good here using SelectedTrackSend and SelectedTrackSendSlot.
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06-17-2021, 05:44 PM
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#13823
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
Does SelectedTrackSendNavigator exhibit the same behaviour ?
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No, it's fine and also working with fader touch.
I think this level display issue may have happened when you had a shot at making fader touch work with receives.
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06-17-2021, 05:54 PM
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#13824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
No, it's fine and also working with fader touch.
I think this level display issue may have happened when you had a shot at making fader touch work with receives.
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Ok, let's leave Receives alone for now.
Believe it or not there are some fairly significant differences in the way Sends and Receives are implemented, Reaper API-wise.
Receives are a new CSI component and some problems may be due to that rather than the architecture switch.
Let's move on to FX and circle back for Receives later.
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06-17-2021, 06:16 PM
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#13825
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
Ok, let's leave Receives alone for now.
Believe it or not there are some fairly significant differences in the way Sends and Receives are implemented, Reaper API-wise.
Receives are a new CSI component and some problems may be due to that rather than the architecture switch.
Let's move on to FX and circle back for Receives later.
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Fine with me
First FX clearing issue, FXMenu maps on track selection to C4, GoFXSlot selected from C4, FX maps, all good. Select another track, only C4 rows that are overwritten are cleared of previous FX mapping (which is rows C and D, rows A and B will still show FX map hangover).
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06-17-2021, 08:16 PM
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#13826
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Great job everyone!
Im trying to get to a point where I can test this stuff on OSC. Ran across a question.
Using SelectedTrackReceive, if I have 8 channels and more than 8 receives, can I navigate through them some how like you would regular tracks?
Also, had I been up to speed earlier on receives, I would have mentioned I would like the output meter actions for them if possible. It doesnt really make sense for sends, though.
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06-18-2021, 01:28 AM
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#13827
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
Search for CSI Exp in the Stash for the new experimantal version. The older version is available through the link in Geoff's sig.
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Thanks!
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06-18-2021, 02:45 AM
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#13828
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Had a quick go with the latest build. Everything seems to work fine so far. The only thing I've found not working is TrackReceiveVolumeDisplay, but it seems that was mentioned already.
FX Menu works flawlessly here.
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06-18-2021, 05:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cjewellstudios
Using SelectedTrackReceive, if I have 8 channels and more than 8 receives, can I navigate through them some how like you would regular tracks?
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This is a good question, and applies to all the SelectedTrackNavigators. Currently I believe you're limited to the number of channels, there's no banking mechanism that I know of.
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06-18-2021, 05:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
This is a good question, and applies to all the SelectedTrackNavigators. Currently I believe you're limited to the number of channels, there's no banking mechanism that I know of.
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It would be good if banking followed the preset, so if you have 8 set in the menu, (like on the C4) then banking would take you to the next bank if you had 16 sends or showing 4-11 if you only had 11.
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06-18-2021, 05:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freex
It would be good if banking followed the preset, so if you have 8 set in the menu, (like on the C4) then banking would take you to the next bank if you had 16 sends or showing 4-11 if you only had 11.
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Absolutely. Some kind of banking is the only way the SelectedTrackReceiveNavigator makes any sense to me, as you're likely to have a large number of tracks being sent to another...
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06-18-2021, 05:36 AM
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Just wanted to report that, contrary to my earlier post, FX SubZones are working fine (operator error)
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06-18-2021, 06:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MixMonkey
Code:
SomeButton FXMenuSlotBank -1
SomeotherButton FXMenuSlotBank 1
Here are my C4 Zones:
Code:
Zone "Home"
OnInitialization SetReceiveGoZone
OnInitialization SetReceiveGoFXSlot
OnInitialization SetReceiveMapTrackFXMenusSlotToWidgets
OnInitialization SetReceiveMapTrackSendsSlotToWidgets
OnInitialization SetReceiveMapTrackReceivesSlotToWidgets
IncludedZones
"Buttons"
"SelectedTrackFXMenu"
"SelectedTrackSend"
"SelectedTrackReceive"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Code:
Zone "Buttons"
Marker Shift
Track Option
ChanStrip Control
Function Alt
Lock MapSelectedTrackFXToMenu
Lock MapSelectedTrackSendsToWidgets
Lock MapSelectedTrackReceivesToWidgets
Shift+Lock Reaper "_S&M_FXBYPALL" //Toggle all FX bypass for selected track
SpotErase Reaper "_S&M_TOGLFXCHAIN" //Toggle FX Chain for selected tracks
Split Reaper "_S&M_WNCLS4" //Close all FX chain windows
Split Reaper "_S&M_WNCLS3" //Close all floating FX windows
FXButton1 NoAction
FXButton2 NoAction
FXButton3 NoAction
FXButton4 NoAction
ChannelLeft FXMenuSlotBank -1
ChannelLeft Reaper "_S&M_SELFXPREV"
ChannelRight FXMenuSlotBank 1
ChannelRight Reaper "_S&M_SELFXNEXT"
ZoneEnd
Code:
Zone "SelectedTrackReceive"
SelectedTrackReceiveNavigator
DisplayUpperB| TrackReceiveNameDisplay
DisplayLowerB| TrackReceiveVolumeDisplay
RotaryB| TrackReceiveVolume
RotaryPushB| TrackReceiveMute
ZoneEnd
Code:
Zone "SelectedTrackSend"
SelectedTrackSendNavigator
DisplayUpperC| TrackSendNameDisplay
DisplayLowerC| TrackSendVolumeDisplay
RotaryC| TrackSendVolume [ (0.001,0.02,0.04,0.06,0.1) ]
RotaryPushC| TrackSendMute
ZoneEnd
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Ah, so you need the reaper actions as well to make it work.
I had the FXMenuSlotBank added but not the reaper ones.
I'll give that a try.
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06-18-2021, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freex
Ah, so you need the reaper actions as well to make it work.
I had the FXMenuSlotBank added but not the reaper ones.
I'll give that a try.
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No, the Reaper Actions just highlight the selected FX in the open FX chain window (not entirely infallibly, I might add ) FXMenuSlotBank should work on its own.
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06-18-2021, 10:00 AM
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Ok, things seem to be settling in... (crosses fingers )
We've been talking about adding banking to Selected Track stuff for a while, and as has been noted, Receives make it imperative.
Seems like they should be separate from these Slot indices:
SendSlotBank
ReceiveSlotBank
FXMenuSlotBank
Maybe add:
SelectedTrackSendBank
SelectedTrackReceiveBank
SelectedTrackFXMenuBank
With all the inter-surface stuff we have been adding lately, and with the architecture smoothing out, also maybe time to start thinking about Sends/Receives/FX spanning surfaces.
Just my 2c
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06-18-2021, 10:01 AM
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With FX not clearing issues, are they on one surface or do they span surfaces, or both ?
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06-18-2021, 10:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
With FX not clearing issues, are they on one surface or do they span surfaces, or both ?
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With that issue, I'm seeing both but it's weird.
The details are:
1. Load up a track with a few FX in the FX Menu
2. GoFXSlot to map one of the FX (these of course use SelectedTrackNavigator)
3. Keep the FX mapped, but now select a different track, one without that FX
Result: OSC surface still shows displays for previously mapped FX but feedback values change. MIDI surface also appears to be linked to the no-longer active FX. The feedback values are also off. Moving from track to track changes the feedback values a bit but the widgets aren't linked to anything.
Now, of course, when you land on a track that uses that same effect again, the mapping picks right back up, which is great! Definitely like that. Especially when you use the same EQ or compressor a lot.
My expectation is that the map would clear until I click on a track that uses the plugin, or activate a different zone that overrides those widgets.
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06-18-2021, 10:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkybot
With that issue, I'm seeing both but it's weird.
The details are:
1. Load up a track with a few FX in the FX Menu
2. GoFXSlot to map one of the FX (these of course use SelectedTrackNavigator)
3. Keep the FX mapped, but now select a different track, one without that FX
Result: OSC surface still shows displays for previously mapped FX but feedback values change. MIDI surface also appears to be linked to the no-longer active FX. The feedback values are also off. Moving from track to track changes the feedback values a bit but the widgets aren't linked to anything.
Now, of course, when you land on a track that uses that same effect again, the mapping picks right back up, which is great! Definitely like that. Especially when you use the same EQ or compressor a lot.
My expectation is that the map would clear until I click on a track that uses the plugin, or activate a different zone that overrides those widgets.
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Cool, thanks, will check it out.
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06-18-2021, 10:48 AM
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New build is up.
CSI Exp.zip
Possible fix for issue above.
[edit] Nope, there is more to it than that
If you do want to try this build, hopefully the Receive stuff is back where it was -- working except Touch.
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Last edited by Geoff Waddington; 06-18-2021 at 10:58 AM.
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06-18-2021, 11:00 AM
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Got the FXMenuSlotBank working!!! Thanks MixMonkey
I see what you mean about the cycle or lack of on the controller.
Reaper is flicking thru the FX in a cycle but the surface stops at the last one in the chain.
I'm still having well behaved receives BTW. (NO -150) and new build seems to have well behaved sends too>
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