Old 12-11-2013, 10:23 AM   #1
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# WAV: ignore obviously insane BEXT preferred position data
# Render: fixed dither checkboxes being inappropriately grayed out
+ Project bay: avoid hang when zooming to selected items that are very far apart [t=127213]
+ Windows: fixed x64 hang on certain tempo envelope and grid settings [t=132256]
+ ReaVerb: save-as with copy media now puts samples into impulses/ subfolder
+ ReaSamplomatic: save-as with copy media now puts samples into samples/ subfolder
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:23 AM   #2
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# WAV: ignore obviously insane BEXT preferred position data
# Render: fixed dither checkboxes being inappropriately grayed out
+ Project bay: avoid hang when zooming to selected items that are very far apart [t=127213]
+ Windows: fixed x64 hang on certain tempo envelope and grid settings [t=132256]
+ ReaVerb: save-as with copy media now puts samples into impulses/ subfolder
+ ReaSamplomatic: save-as with copy media now puts samples into samples/ subfolder
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:26 AM   #3
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+ ReaVerb: save-as with copy media now puts samples into impulses/ subfolder
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these are awesome!

I think I beat airon by 3 seconds.. ha ha
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:58 AM   #4
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FINALLY! I can stop using that stupid SWS search (which is stupid because it zooms 100% maximizing all tracks forcing me to un-maximize all tracks) ARGGH! I like how you specify the bug has to do with items VERY far apart, rather than just "far apart".

edit: crap, don't want to offend the REAPER extension master...


Well, I was about to report this bug, but it just got fixed! (not sure when it got fixed, the bug being "unkn" rather than "D & E")
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+ ReaVerb: save-as with copy media now puts samples into impulses/ subfolder
+ ReaSamplomatic: save-as with copy media now puts samples into samples/ subfolder

YES !!!!
This is great !!!!
Thank you !!!

If I understand this correctly, this means if I use "save as" when
saving a project, and, if I select "copy media", it will automatically
copy/duplicate all of my Samples (used in RS5k) and all of my
IR files (used in ReaVerb) for the current project into
(a new sub folder) the NEW project save folder location (cloned)... Nice !!!

This is a flexible and a very helpful feature.

This could be used for project sharing and/or archival purposes.
This feature would be great for me !!!

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Now if only peaks would optionally save in project's subfolder...
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Now if only peaks would optionally save in project's subfolder...
Really ? ..... I'm not sure that would be necessary.

Example: I assign my own custom peak folder path in the preferences.

I'm not understanding why having the peaks be saved
in a project subfolder would be a good thing.

Side note:
That would also increase the project file size when
copying to a portable drive (or archiving for example).

I'm just wondering why you feel the peaks need to be saved
in the project folder also ?

Is there a benefit to this ?
(just wondering)

I always empty my peak folder when finished.

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Now if only peaks would optionally save in project's subfolder...
And backups. Someone would have said it.

Shaping up to be a nice release.
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Just for organizational purposes. One global peaks folder is not a good enough solution, because you don't know to which file a peak belongs to, because they are named completely arbitrarily.

With peaks saved in a subfolder alongside project folder, they could keep their filename AND you would know to which project those peaks belong.

It's an old FR.
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v4.58rc4 - December 11 2013
# WAV: ignore obviously insane BEXT preferred position data
# Render: fixed dither checkboxes being inappropriately grayed out
+ Project bay: avoid hang when zooming to selected items that are very far apart [t=127213]
+ Windows: fixed x64 hang on certain tempo envelope and grid settings [t=132256]
+ ReaVerb: save-as with copy media now puts samples into impulses/ subfolder
+ ReaSamplomatic: save-as with copy media now puts samples into samples/ subfolder
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Now if only peaks would optionally save in project's subfolder...
YES YES YES!!!! and YES AGAIN!!!
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Really ? ..... I'm not sure that would be necessary.

Example: I assign my own custom peak folder path in the preferences.

I'm not understanding why having the peaks be saved
in a project subfolder would be a good thing.

Side note:
That would also increase the project file size when
copying to a portable drive ? (for example).

I'm just wondering why you feel the peaks need to be saved
in the project folder also ?

Is there a benefit to this ?
(just wondering)
Few reasons.

1.When sharing projects or moving projects (or even after saving under a new name), if you have peaks set to save under a single location for all projects then in the examples given here, you will find reaper has to rebuild peaks which, depending on the project type and size can take enough time to get in the way when having the peaks contained in the folder would make this much faster.

2. Keeps everything much neater because if reaper had a peaks folder (optional of course) and you hadn't set up a main peaks folder, then reaper wouldn't leave peak files all over the place which is a pain when auditioning and also when rendering files for output to say a shared folder on dropbox.

3. As for size, Reaper stores them all in one place at the moment which could build up to a lot (unless it only allows it to get so big?) and storing in the same folder isn't bad really as the size of these files is pretty small but takes awhile to make them. Also,currently, if you don't set a folder (which is not done by default) reaper leaves these files all over the place whenever you audition a sound via media explorer.

It's been a request for a long time
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Just for organizational purposes. One global peaks folder is not a good enough solution, because you don't know to which file a peak belongs to, because they are named completely arbitrarily.

With peaks saved in a subfolder alongside project folder, they could keep their filename AND you would know to which project those peaks belong.

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Few reasons.

1.When sharing projects or moving projects (or even after saving under a new name), if you have peaks set to save under a single location for all projects then in the examples given here, you will find reaper has to rebuild peaks which, depending on the project type and size can take enough time to get in the way when having the peaks contained in the folder would make this much faster.

2. Keeps everything much neater because if reaper had a peaks folder (optional of course) and you hadn't set up a main peaks folder, then reaper wouldn't leave peak files all over the place which is a pain when auditioning and also when rendering files for output to say a shared folder on dropbox.

3. As for size, Reaper stores them all in one place at the moment which could build up to a lot (unless it only allows it to get so big?) and storing in the same folder isn't bad really as the size of these files is pretty small but takes awhile to make them. Also,currently, if you don't set a folder (which is not done by default) reaper leaves these files all over the place whenever you audition a sound via media explorer.

Thank you for explaining....
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Really ? ..... I'm not sure that would be necessary.

Example: I assign my own custom peak folder path in the preferences.

I'm not understanding why having the peaks be saved
in a project subfolder would be a good thing.

Side note:
That would also increase the project file size when
copying to a portable drive (or archiving for example).

I'm just wondering why you feel the peaks need to be saved
in the project folder also ?

Is there a benefit to this ?
(just wondering)

I always empty my peak folder when finished.

i save my peaks to the windows temp folder.
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Plug...Please vote this:

http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=3149

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I'm quite happy with peaks in the media subfolder, but there should be an option to place them in a relative folder of the users choosing.


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I'm quite happy with peaks in the media subfolder, but there should be an option to place them in a relative folder of the users choosing.
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Yep.

"Oh no, we have to recalculate peaks for every time we reuse this media in another project."

That argument might have worked fifteen years ago, when Sound Designer II dutifully chugged along to produce the peak overview on a Power PC 603 . Just thought I'd kill that one before it ambles out the gate.
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Yep.

"Oh no, we have to recalculate peaks for every time we reuse this media in another project."

That argument might have worked fifteen years ago, when Sound Designer II dutifully chugged along to produce the peak overview on a Power PC 603 . Just thought I'd kill that one before it ambles out the gate.
You say that but because of the amount of bouncing into 32bit format I do and because some external drives are slow plus on sight laptops aren't always that fast it can be a take a little longer to do massive projects with loads of tiny items and video peak files take ages still so this would still help

You're right that it's not what it use to be but it helps
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You say that but because of the amount of bouncing into 32bit format I do and because some external drives are slow plus on sight laptops aren't always that fast it can be a take a little longer to do massive projects with loads of tiny items and video peak files take ages still so this would still help

You're right that it's not what it use to be but it helps
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Precisely. I'd still be using a peak file folder on another drive, because I too deal with very large files at times, but a lot of people won't.

IMHO, the relative folder, as it is available for recording and some other stuff should be the default too. Nobody actually likes cluttering up libraries with peak files and never have. I've been a Soundforge user since the mid-90s and that's one thing I didn't like back THEN.

You can take this FR further and have peak files of recordings show up in the relative path, and directories-in-a-list have a peakfile subdir cache right on the library drive, but not right next to the files themselves. Basehead, a sound librarian, does it this way with entire drives. That way, even larger library files won't get scanned multiple times and are always available with peaks instantly in the media explorer.

In the project folder = relative folder, everything else = master peak folder(like so many of us have). More rule ideas ?

Of course the relative peak file folder in the project directory would be a good start as a default.
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Totally agreed, Airon.

le relative folder for peaks sounds great. Projects would load more quickly that way.

As things are now, I'm also one of those who actually has a peakfolder in his temp folder and I erase it regularly. Having a relative peakfolder per project would be great!
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I third that motion... per project right on
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