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Regarding the ffmpeg 64bit new builds, I haven't been able to use them in Reaper even with all the files in the bin folder (Win7 x64 - Reaper v4beta10 x64), I've tested a few times with a different combination of files and nothing, although I've seen on other threads people reporting good results. Last edited by joaobgb; 06-24-2011 at 08:41 AM. |
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Place FFmeg.dylib in same directory as your REAPER.app See screenshot for example - my folder also includes libmp3lame.dylib for mp3 encoding +1 for making this a sticky. Along with the lame mp3 codec and SWS extensions, this seems important info for REAPER newbies. |
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Should be a sticky or wiki
Airon, did you ever find reaper slowly eating your memory when playing back h.264 files on reaper 32bit but win 7 64? |
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-edit- First impression. Yes, the memory consumption steadily grows. The video specs: Code:
Length: 25:31.843 Video: 1920x1080@30.00fps, Aspect=1.00, Decoding format=YV12 Audio: 44100Hz 2ch 16bps Using FFmpeg DLL decoder v52.61.0 (--enable-shared --disable-static --enable-memalign-hack --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- --cc=ccache-i686-mingw32-gcc --arch=i686 --target-os=mingw32 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-bzlib --enable-libgsm --enable-libfaad --enable-pthreads --enable-libvorbis --enable-libtheora --enable-libspeex --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libxvid --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libx264 --enable-libopencore_amrwb --enable-libopencore_amrnb) Video: h264, yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 6994 kb/s Audio: aac, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 253 kb/s -edit- Full video has played. RAM compsumption grew by 50 MB over the course of playback at a steady burst of a little here and some there. It was not entirely continous. After a while of having stopped playback, RAM consumption fell by around 20 MB, and has so far remained steady. Reinitiating playback has RAM usage jumping by an instant 10 MB, and a few seconds later by another 10 MB. I started playback from the start and the RAM consumption is continuing to climb in the same fashion so far.
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A few of us are having issues using ProRes files. I get black screen in Win7-64 Reaper-X64. Someone else has reported the same thing on OSX 32 B11 and 12.
It's such a standard format now...needs Reaper attention. thanks...BB |
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Thanks for testing Airon, this has been a pain for me. The short film I'm currently doing is only 15 mins long but I can barely get through it twice before running out on reaper 32bit but in win7 64bit.
I didn't want to so the 64bit because of plugins and hardware controllers and we can't firewall the video window. Also the codecs I installed from your thread for the none ffmpeg decoding manage to steal the main outs on my lynx sound card so the front speakers don't work anymore so that's no go so far too Hope it gets looked at as it use to work. Quote:
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Friendly bump. Time to check this functionality again gents.
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There is another bug within Reapers video playback engine, which is struggling me for a long time now. Go to a certain frame, let's say frame 24 and start playback. You can cleary see that playback starts at frame 23. This should get fixed. |
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I'll look into it for some details.
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After examining the black video output issue, it's not the zeranoe build all alone. It was a rather complex situation in my project file, directly accessing the audio track of avi-files. I don't think it's worth to be explained detail.
From my experience you can safely use zeranoe's build with video files in quicktime motion jpeg format. Sorry for shooting out too fast on this one Apart from that, it seems to be reproduceable that reaper while starting playback shows one frame before the actual starting point. I'm gonna post some info on that in "v4.10rc2 - September 23 2011". |
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Issue only appears on 64bit version
Hello again,
I now can view a .mov file encoded using the rather excellent DNxHD codec in REAPER, but it will only work on the 32bit version. I still get a black screen when using the 64bit version. Can anyone suggest why this would be? Cheers, Tim. |
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This is ALL very confusing to me. I cannot figure out how to install the FFMPEG builds.
At the very top of this thread, I went to the x64 link given and tried that, but got a screen with a list of things that didn't appear to include .dll files. SO- I tried importing a WMV file into reaper and I get a dialog box that says "building peaks" and it just freezes and locks Reaper up. I need some serious help here. I'm sorry for my ignorance in this area!!
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For Win x64 go here:
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win64/shared/ (this is the link in the first post) - download the first 7z (7zip) file, it has 'latest' on the name - open the file with 7zip or winrar or any other program that works - open the bin folder and extract or drag the .dll files to the directory where you have reaper.exe (Usually this is "c:\program files\reaper\"). Don't copy the .exe files, there's no need for them. Don't forget to install the K-Lite 64-bit codec pack (link in the first post), as Airon says, for all other format other than quicktime, OS decoding works better (to work with these codecs go to the "video/REX/Misc" tab in Preferences and check "Use OS video decoding instead of FFmpeg when possible"). I normally install both the x64 and x86 packs, this way you have all the codecs you may need for both 64 and 32 bit applications you might have on your computer. Last edited by joaobgb; 11-02-2011 at 09:54 AM. |
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You rock!!! I got it working! Thank you SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much!!!
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airon, thanks for the descriptions/instructions. They are really useful!
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Thanks for this thread.
I'd like to try using FFMPEG's "-vcodec copy" to preserve the original stream without encoding and cut down on render time. All clips are from the same camera and are the same size, encoding, framerate, etc. Is it possible to set up a new FFMPEG profile for the render dialog in Reaper using custom commands? Thanks for your help and suggestions. |
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"Program Files (x86)" should be for 32-bit applications. Thanks for this guide, BTW!
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Reaper 32-bit will be installed to "c:\program files\reaper\" on a 32-bit system.
Reaper 64-bit will be installed to "c:\program files\reaper\" on a 64-bit system. Thus, Reaper 32-bit will be installed to "c:\Program Files (x86)\REAPER" on a 64-bit system. So airon is right. You're quoting the 32-bit reaper section. P.S.: I think, Reaper's 64-bit installer standard path is "c:\program files\reaper (x64)\", though it shouldn't matter. |
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Hi there!
I’ve been using Reaper for quite a while now for audio post production, but have very rarely had to render a video. Now, I have a video I want to use as part of a portfolio, but I’m running into issues. I am using Reaper 32-bit and the Zeranoe FFMpeg build specified for this version in the initial post. Whenever I try to render out my video, I get black flickers randomly throughout. These occur every couple of seconds. I have tried every format and codec available, but I have no luck – the black flickers always appear and are always in the same place. These flickers are not present when the video is played before rendering or outwith Reaper. I have been using a compressed, low quality version of the video to do my audio-post. This video ran very well, even with a large number of tracks and effects present in the project. Rendering out this low quality version of the video isn’t an issue. There are never any flickers. The source properties for the compressed, low quality version: Length: 2:56.300 Video: 640x360@30.00fps, Aspect=1.00, Decoding format=RGB Audio: 44100Hz 2ch 16bps Using FFmpeg DLL decoder v53.16.0 (--disable-static --enable-shared --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --enable-zlib) Video: mjpeg (mjpa / 0x61706A6D), yuvj422p, 640x360 [SAR 72:72 DAR 16:9], 9793 kb/s Audio: pcm_s16be (twos / 0x736F7774), 44100 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1411 kb/s Once I had completed my soundtrack, I rendered it as a single stereo wav file (44.1KHz 16-Bit) and imported this into a clean project with the original quality version of the video. This video, in contrast, does not run well in the editor, even in such a simple project. When playing the video, it stutters and sometimes isn’t as smooth as it should be. The CPU load is around 25 – 30%. There are no black lines however. The source properties of the high quality video: Length: 2:56.300 Video: 1280x720@30.00fps, Aspect=1.00, Decoding format=YV12 Audio: 44100Hz 2ch 16bps Using FFmpeg DLL decoder v53.16.0 (--disable-static --enable-shared --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --enable-zlib) Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 1280x720, 1890 kb/s Audio: aac (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 151 kb/s Any thoughts? I can only think that it has something to do with how badly Reaper handles this video within the editor, but surely that wouldn’t matter during a render, as the software doesn’t have to do it in real time? My system specs are as follows: Windows 7 professional 64-bit 2x Dual-Core AMD Opteron Processor 2220 (Hyper Threaded - 8 logical Cores) ~ 2.8 GHz 16GB RAM AMD Radeon HD 6870 Any help would be appreciated! |
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What are you trying to render it to, and what is the target application for the video you want to make ?
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At the moment, I'm just trying to find a format that will work proper once rendered, but I would like to render the video in a format that will retain its quality, with minimal or no compression. The original format was mp4, so ideally, I suppose that is what I'd like to render it out as. If you mean what are the files actually being rendered to, it's just my internal HD. As for the application of the video, it is going to be uploaded to a video hosting site such as Vimeo and then embedded on my personal website as a portfolio piece. If I have completely missed the point of your questions, I apologize. :P |
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That's what I needed to know.
The target format that makes the most sense, since every video site you upload it to is going to transcode your video anyway is : MKV container H264 codec with a very high bitrate (10MBit+ with HD content) 16-bit PCM audio That format works. It uploads to Youtube just fine and has for years. You should do a test upload to Vimeo. Oh and btw, redownload your video from those video sites and check for sync. Youtube ALWAYS adds delay to the sound because of their encoder or something. It is then a good idea to shift the mix of your audio by the appropriate number of samples, for which Reaper is perfect yet again.
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Well, I have now gotten my HD mp4 files to play perfectly in 32 reaper on XP OS... They work great with the updated ffmeg codecs that one can find from the page that is linked in airon's signature... So the problem I was having was solved by changing the setting in reaper pref's... so reaper does NOT try to use OS system codecs... With that box unchecked, I don't need any conversions [thank heaven since they take forever and make way too big files] Clearly, when it does try to do that, it uses one of the QT codecs and just as clearly, they SUCK! They produce the black windows and jerks and other nonsense... similar to what the user with the 64 bit problems has stated. [similar but not completely the same] Anyway... I am very happy to see the video I need working smoothly now. I give thanks to airon for all the help.
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Hey there! Thank you very much for your response. Sadly, no dice - The videos are still rendering with black flickers, all at the exact same points. I've tried WMP and VLC to see if this was a player issue, but it isn't. I'm going to assume that it's something about the video itself? But it doesn't have any sort of flicker before render, so I honestly don't know.
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HELP!!! WTF!?!? Love Reaper, HATE its video
OK. I have a pretty robust machine (core i7 with 16 gigs of RAM) so I know that's not the problem, but I have NEVER been able to get Reaper's video to work properly. I usually get vids from clients that are MP4's or Quicktimes. Usually, I just get a black screen, occasionally, I get video that's upside down- hunh? So I was just trying to watch a vid that a client gave me and again, I'm getting nothing but a black screen, so I thought I'd try to download the latest FFMPEG shared build and see if that worked. So I did, unzipped it- the three files in the BIN folder were like 10-18 Megs each, whereas the ones actually in the Reaper folder initially were like 300 KB. OK that's weird, so I put the old ones in my recycle bin and put the new ones in my reaper folder. Now Reaper crashes every time I try to import a video. Crap! So I pull the old ones back out of the recycle bin and put them back in the reaper folder. Still crashes when I import a video file. Now I'm in trouble! What the hell is going on? For those of you who are good with this stuff, it's probably obvious that I don't understand ffmpeg or how it works, but that's part of the problem- I just want video that plays- it doesn't seem like that should require such a monumental effort and so many headaches! Someone please help!
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Following the first post of this thread didn't help ?
It is Windows you're using, right ?
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Yeah I followed the first thread- that's what led me to try to install the latest ffmpeg version. I'm on windows 7 64 bit. I'm afraid I can't load my sessions that have vid tracks on them now since it crashes reaper. I tried reinstallIng latest version to no avail. Thought maybe I could try installIng an older version and then reinstall newest version. I accidentally double-Clicked the ffmpeg application- saw a brief flash of dos cmd line- don't know if that screwed something up? Does frmpeg look for folders in the reaper folder? I still have the unzipped latest version folder in there, but the files from the bin folder are outside the folder. It seems like I need a way to get reaper to re-find fffmpeg? Thanks on advance for any help. I'm kinda screwed if I don't get this running by tomorrow afternoon.
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Not the latest version. That has some API changes that Reaper has yet to support. Damn, it's an oversight on my part that I didn't put this in to the 64-bit version description as well. Now corrected. I'm sorry for the loss of time.
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win...in64-shared.7z That's the one that works. There might be newer ones, but this works(I use it). Place the DLL files from the BIN directory alongside the Reaper.exe. Check the video preferences to make sure it's not using OS decoding, and you should be good to go. Your program directory should look like this: Remember that transcoding is sometimes necessary, though rarely for MP4 and most Quicktime files. Prores though, that's another story.
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Still no dice!
I installed the ffmpeg that you suggested. My reaper folder now looks like yours. Still crashes. It will load my projects, however, if I check "use OS video decoding"- so it's ffmpeg that's crashing the program. I don't know if one of the incorrect versions that I put in Reaper's folder earlier is hanging it up or what. I think the first time I copied stuff there, I copied all the files in the bin folder- including the ffmpeg, ffplay, ffprobe, and avconv "applications" into the Reaper directory. I'm assuming from your instructions that I shouldn't have done this- only the dll's right? Would that cause this behavior? Is there a quick way (i.e. deleting or moving a configuration file or folder) to get Reaper to re-look up its ffmpeg dll's? Is it looking for the old ones, or looking in the wrong place? I didn't install Reaper on my C: drive (it's a SSD with pretty much just Windows on it) It's installed on my F: drive which is two 2TB drives in RAID 1. I placed the ffmpeg files in the Reaper install directory on my F: drive. This shouldn't make any difference should it? I posted more exact system specs in my signature if that helps.
I'm wondering if I should do a complete reinstall- ugh! Thanks again for your help.
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You can easily backup your configuration with the IMPORT EXPORT buttons in the General preferences.
And you can test portable installations for alternative configurations without disrupting your original installation. You can import your exported configuration file in to the portable installation. I don't know if it's possible to muck up a Reaper installation by dumping all the contents of the BIN directory of the FFMPEG libraries in to the program directory.
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Well, something has definitely gone very wrong. I've tried converting these files to avi via QuickTime pro, mp4, which they ready are? And mpeg2 and wmv Via vlc player- Absolutely NOTHING gives me anything but a blank screen. Furthermore I now have a wmv file that I can't delete that I converted via vlc player. This is absolutely infuriating! I have a badass machine and a relatively badass video card and I can't watch video at all in reaper. I just uninstalled and reinstalled reaper. After reinstall I unchecked "use os..." and importing a vid didn't cause crash- still had only black screen, but no crash. After importing ffmpeg dll's (from the set u recommended) now reaped crashes when I import a vid file! WTF! Am I the only person on earth this is happening to? I really can't think of anything else to try. This is really the first time that I truly feel like the problem is reaper and not my own ignorance. Help please!
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What does your program directory look like ?
Perhaps a command promot and Code:
dir *.* >blahblah.txt What kind of codec are the Quicktime files using ? All this is just rechecking everything. Oh yeah, what version of Reaper are you using ?
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Below is my program directory (F:Program Files/Reaper) I originally didn't have the .exe files from the bin folder in here after reinstalling reaper, but since the last time I was actually able to see any video of any kind in Reaper those files were in there, I decided to try putting them in again to see if they would work.
Here's my install directory: avcodec-53.dll avconv.exe avdevice-53.dll avfilter-2.dll avformat-53.dll avutil-51.dll Docs ffmpeg.exe ffplay.exe ffprobe.exe InstallData license.txt list.txt Plugins postproc-51.dll reamote.exe reaper.exe reaper-install.ini REAPERReWireDev.dll reaper-to-usb.bat swresample-0.dll swscale-2.dll tips.txt Uninstall.exe whatsnew.txt I've just upgraded my graphics card driver, and done a system restore to two days ago- I actually haven't used the vid in awhile so there could be a windows update conflict, but I'm not going back thru every system restore over the last couple of months. Yes, I'm installing 64 bit Reaper, version 4.22, but I am a little sleep deprived so I double checked. Looking at source properties of the vid file (which I can only do if I'm using OS, not FFMPEG, as it crashes) it's showing the following: Video: 960x540@29.97fps, Aspect=1.00, Decoding format=YUY2 Audio: 48000Hz 2ch 16bps Using Quicktime decoder (bridged) Thanks again for all of your help! You rock. Don't know how I could repay you, but let me know if you think of something!
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07-29-2012, 07:02 AM | #40 |
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Good news.
Reaper v4.26 will be supporting the newest FFMPEG builds from I'll update the first post as soon as v4.26 is out. Until then you can grab the latest pre-release via the Pre-Release forum section and the FFMPEG build of your choice.
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