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because i have not bought a license, there is this nag screen that shows up for like 5 seconds. i do not have a job or income, is there another clever (LEGAL!!) way to make that go away, maybe with a macro?

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Duck, run or cover.

you stilll have a few moments to get away!


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because i have not bought a license, there is this nag screen that shows up for like 5 seconds. i do not have a job or income, is there another clever (LEGAL!!) way to make that go away, maybe with a macro?
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its all about respect. just looking for a legal way to de-select the nag screen in the options. criminals and the like often will use cracked versions of the software, and that is just missing the point of what it means to be a D.I.Y. and community based amazing daw.

it is very important for the devs and the reaper community to make money, because it is good for the economy. agreed. i just dont have a job for a year already.

for those of us who are honest, and just cant afford the license yet, maybe there is a slick way to remedy the nag screen, while maintaining honest integrity?

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i just realized that my question might have offended anyone, and that is not my goal.

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its all about respect. just looking for a legal way to de-select the nag screen in the options. criminals and the like often will use cracked versions of the software, and that is just missing the point of what it means to be a D.I.Y. and community based amazing daw.

it is very important for the devs and the reaper community to make money, because it is good for the economy. agreed. i just dont have a job for a year already.

for those of us who are honest, and just cant afford the license yet, maybe there is a slick way to remedy the nag screen, while maintaining honest integrity?
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That was not very nice of you, Jason...

But ReaperCurious, if you not wanna pay, why not stick with the nag?
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for those of us who are honest, and just cant afford the license yet, maybe there is a slick way to remedy the nag screen, while maintaining honest integrity?
I think that you get to chose one or the other but not the two at the same time.

And what's so troublesome about a 5 second nag screen anyway? Other apps take longer just to start running.
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hey, i totally want to pay, its just that i swear to jesusonic that i have not had a job for so long i dont know what to do.

i am in a foreign country and i have a sob story, whatever.

long story short, there are a lot of geniuses helping this project out. i know the nag screen is only 5 seconds, but its really just a reminder, not a copy protection. it doesnt cripple the program at all.

basically, i could question why its even there, but thats not my business. i just was curious if any very smart person could help me remove it until i get the money for a license, which has nothing absolutely nothing to do with the nag screen.

of course, i dont want everyone to use such a technique to avoid paying for something they should pay for anyway, but i believe i am a special case and that there are exceptions to the rule as well.

i swear that i will buy a license when i get the money. you dont know how hard it is for me, i cant even afford more than rice and canned fish. but thats my own personal sob story, and not relevant.

thanks for any suggestions!
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the very second line of the nag screen says if you've used this product for more than thirty days you must buy it to continue using it. you pretty much are using a pirated version.
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the very second line of the nag screen says if you've used this product for more than thirty days you must buy it to continue using it. you pretty much are using a pirated version.
millions of loser pirates loiter the internet, looking to loot whatever copies of media or software they find littering the net. i used to be one of them, and i am not interested in going back down that road, because i know where it ends.

i am in the reaper community because the people here are all honest, and thats why i avoid the general population of the internet most of the time. well, i look at some of the funny image boards, but i find myself drawn back to the old reaper forum time and time again.

piracy isnt the answer. basically, the only future in piracy is a big cell mate named bubba or babs.

i hope you guys carefully read my posts and quicly determine that nowhere in these posts am i saying it is okay to be a pirate. piracy killed the economy i think, and i am a victim as well as so many software engineers also.
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hey, i totally want to pay, its just that i swear to jesusonic that i have not had a job for so long i dont know what to do.

Take a walk over to the blood bank or sperm bank and and make some quick cash.
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Take a walk over to the blood bank or sperm bank and and make some quick cash.
i am in a foreign country, and i am trying to scramble to get my stuff together for like a year and a half, and its just not working out. i had good jobs where i am originally from, but things havent worked out. i barely have time to experiment with music anyway.

do the sperm bank hire sperm takers? i am so tired of looking for money, its crazy. thanks for the suggestions just the same. i am also supposed to be learning the language here, and i am in school too. my life may or may not be as easy or hard as many of you reading this, but i like life, and i hope i get money soon. i am basically couch surfing for more than a year and my skills are going to waste. its been the harshest experience of my life.

has the economic crisis also impacted cockos inc? how about any of you readers?

thanks again everybody!

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everybody suffers to some extent the perils of this economic downturn.

I know that you are well aware of the ethical crud, so i won't harp on that at all.

A short nag screen is not the low price to pay for such an amazing app... but it is what you will need to live with until you can afford the low price of admission.

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its just 5 seconds, deal with it.
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Hey ReaperCurious - I'm sorry to hear you're having financial problems, really it sucks for sure and this worldwide issue will take some time to improve.

Some might use the line that it's a bit of an insult to paying users that you don't pay when others are paying - however we're a fairly sympathetic bunch and I won't say that you show arrogance with your approach like some do. Your situation is understandable.

But really it was quite brave of you to ask others for a way round the one and only thing you have to put up with as a non-payer! Especially curious posting it in "newbieland" when you've been making feature requests, comments on themes, bug reports since July 2007. You are not a "noob".

I will say you are damn lucky to have access to all the same functionality I've paid over $200 to have. You've been using it.. for free.. for at least 2 years and to complain about the nag screen is simply drawing attention to how lucky you are.

I remember the ProTools splash screen stayed on screen for plenty longer than 5 seconds and that was despite my thousands invested in it.

Nobody has come after you to threaten you for not doing what the licence terms told you. Even when you admit so openly that you haven't paid. You can still use the forum to ask for help, make feature requests and share tips. Yet you feel the need to ask for a way round something that is on your screen for 5 seconds.

Come on... Thank Cockos for being reasonable. Make music. Be happy!
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But really it was quite brave of you to ask others for a way round the one and only thing you have to put up with as a non-payer! Especially curious posting it in "newbieland" when you've been making feature requests, comments on themes, bug reports since July 2007. You are not a "noob".
thanks for the message of support.

i will be the first to admit that i spend more time on this forum and surfing the net than i do making music. its one of my problems. especially wasting tons of time looking for naked pictures.

i know a lot about making non linear daw music because of years and years of cracks addiction, also having worked in studios, building studios, as well as being face to face friends with engineers and other artists in the past. i stopped cracks in order to clean up myself and start thinking about the poor software engineers i was ripping off by choosing to download their work. these days, i think i feel good about myself more, even if i dont know about the latest technology as much. maybe the fact i am having such a problem with money is because of karma, that i was such an internet thief that now its catching up to me because of god.

i am reaper curious because well, its just a curiousity to me, not a lifestyle or even a hobby. i can see that the nag screen however is important to the community, and that it is kind of a taboo subject, and i dont want to really get involved in a negative way with the community any more.
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OP, I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I'm a student, practically no income, just some savings when cousins visit or something like that.

I have found REAPER a year ago, when it was v2.5-something. It was kind of confusing to use it then (coming from FL and Sonar 7), so I uninstalled it. Several months later (which translates to May 2009) I gave it another shot with v3. I have read the whole manual twice, and it was brilliant. I learned quite a few tricks with it. I will never change it again.

I'm giving a part of my hard earned savings to get a student licence for me. I don't really mind the nag screen, I just want to support JCS and magnificent work they are doing. They have even listened some of my propositions and bug finds and nitpicks, they are awesome. (Although, guys, I do have a nice set of uncommented topics with various bugs, FRs and nitpicks still )

So anyways, ReaperCurious, instead of surfing 4chan or whatever go out and try finding a small part-time job. I guess for one month you can save up for the reduced licence, and nag screen will go away.
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instead of surfing 4chan or whatever go out and try finding a small part-time job. I guess for one month you can save up for the reduced licence, and nag screen will go away.
i admit, i do have the problem. the internet is so much more interesting than the real world because everybody is at home being antisocial on the computer, where before it was TV.

also, if you want to stay good at the computer, practically have to live on it. too bad i didnt learn how to develop a program like reaper or be a software engineer like some of my fiends.
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I have also tried to be a programmer. I don't have a problem in understanding language synthax. I have a problem with lateral thinking and how to use it with some sense.

That's why I'm better at piano, and composing. I hope. It's a hard life if I'm gonna live off it, but I have to learn a "proper" job too, if I want to have any life.

So I'm having music as a hobby, constantly improving my skills. Who knows, maybe one day it would pay better.
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so i guess its not possible to bypass the nag screen unless we buy a license, and that is more or less vigorously enforced?

i dont think the devs would really pay much attention if one of us comes up with a way to temporarily bypass it.

as long as it is above board and honest, there is no harm in customizing it in this fashion, right?

remember, i am not talking about some kids who would rather buy their pokemon cards than pay for their license, i am not talking about the wu tang clan gaffling free reaper or something. they have money probably, you know? they should buy the license. i have the wisdom to know the difference between theft and stuff.

what if i get the money and buy the license, and just dont feel like entering my license code? why cant i operate a program my own way, you know? since the nag screen isnt part of copy protection, i dont see why it matters if we find a way to disengage it while we raise the money to get a license.

i think the devs are really really geniuses and their talent allows them to basically print money. there are however those of us who are not geniuses and who will never accomplish anything. and i kind of feel like thats my lot in life. cant i still appreciate what the reaper project is doing? do i have to really shelve reaper after 30 days? i hope i am wrong about myself and that one day i will be able to use reaper for real instead of checking it out like once every blue moon and spending the rest of the time on forums and whatnot.

what would the devs do?
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Just for my information, which country are you from, RC?

I'm from Croatia. We also have it tough here, although not as tough as elsewhere in the world. I'm not a rich man, but I managed to earn me some savings. I'm gonna use one smaller part of it for Reaper.

60 bucks. That can't be too much to collect. Unless you're in (no insult intended) Africa or something...

And yeah, that 5 second nag screen is practically the only "copy protection" you're gonna see with Reaper. Live with it. It's not like those 5 seconds are destroying your life. For gods sakes, it's the time needed to load several porn pics from 4chan :P If you can live through that, you can live through the nag screen. Unfortunately, there's no titties there

Maybe, if we talk to White Tie....
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i am an american and i live in a socialist country now.

i can easily deal with the nag screen, but in the interest in geek talk, and emphasis on maximum tweakage, i am sure there is a leet kind of chap who knows a little trick.

youtube is full of all kinds of iffy how-to videos, and the net is loaded with perverts who are killing the economy forcing our world into the arms of annihilation and communism. -- all i am talking about is buying the license but tweaking away the nag screen until then. criminals never buy things, they just steal them and steal them. i am broke today because of my own dark past.

but as far as tweaking out the reaper trial version to the max, i mean, who knew that a skateboard could be ridden on upside down until rodney mullen came along?

i hope you guys know the difference between a hacker pirate criminal and a decent guy who gives full respect where it is due!

i dont know who they are, but the coders of reaper are heroes for sure.
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The only thing troubling me, reapercurious, is even though you profess a negative attitude towards piracy, you're still looking around an inconvenience in a program which was put there intentionally to encourage you to pay your share. Yes - you have financial trouble. But to use a product in violation of the usage terms and then ask this very forum for advice on how to get around the nag screen would be pretty insulting to me if I were a developer.

As someone else said, deal with it. It's quite literally the least you could do.
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The only thing troubling me, reapercurious, is even though you profess a negative attitude towards piracy, you're still looking around an inconvenience in a program which was put there intentionally to encourage you to pay your share. Yes - you have financial trouble. But to use a product in violation of the usage terms and then ask this very forum for advice on how to get around the nag screen would be pretty insulting to me if I were a developer.

As someone else said, deal with it. It's quite literally the least you could do.
i am really not trying to be negative at all. i have problems with my personality that causes me to not have that many friends, as well as troubles with arrogance, etc. i am really trying to work on my attitude in general. i just figured that newbieland would be a great place to ask the question i did. nobody has an answer for me that is a departure from the obvious expected answers, but i truly believe that the obvious expected is synonymous with prejudice and being judgemental. my goal was to ask this question with an open mind. i didnt mean to come off disrespectful at all.

plus, i thoroughly understand that the program is not by any means free. i am not asking for a feature request, i would never do that. i am only asking for a friendly way to tweak the user interface, right out in the open, without trying to be a sneak.
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Ok - I think you got your answer.
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Yeah and i have another answer
I'm sure i am going to annoy plenty of people here but here goes

Please just STFU with your whining about this that and the other and how the world is terrible for you and blah blah blah and on and on
Grow up
The world is a harsh place for a lot of people but they don't need to try and weasle there way around everything
You can't pay for a licence but then you say you can't be bothered to work

In fact you know i could pick holes in pretty much everything you whined on about seriously you are acting like a total and complete a-hole

It is a 5 second nag screen that you are getting because YOU have decided not to pay and don't i repeat don't tell me you can't raise that money if you don't want to OK
Not only are you sat on a computer but on top of that you are online
You happily pay for those don't you
You think the communications companies and electric companies deserve the money more than the Reaper devs

I don't post much here at the forum anymore but this thread proper got my goat

Some people are just so mental it beggars belief

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i am an american and i live in a socialist country now.
what country would that be and why did you emigrate there?
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I don't post much here at the forum anymore but this thread proper got my goat

Some people are just so mental it beggars belief

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are you the real NAS? if you are, for real, i really love your work, and you can say anything you want to me and i will treasure it. if youre just a Nas fan, i am down with you too.

at any rate, keep droppin the knowledge. because of the generousity of wise men and women like you, who have so much surplus wisdom that they forget more than most people know, someday i will pick up enough pearls to make my own pearl necklace and then i can pawn that or something, lol.

right now i may be a swine, but i still appreciate the pearls somewhat. reaper is a pearl.

if i play my cards right, i will become rich and powerful. until then, all i can do is speak my mind. sorry that to you i look like a butthole, cause i really dont like to do anal.

hey mr. merrill, are you a moderator of the site by the way? does anybody have more posts than you? i have to believe you are a friend of the devs, or are you a dev? not trying to be nosey, i figure you are somebody big around here. i say this with zero irony or sarcasm of course. at any rate, i appreciate your dedication to the forum. i guess if i was super nosey and not lazy, i would look for your biographical info, but that borders on stalking.

i live in a horrible place called sweden. [edit] why? part of a very long endurance test of some kind. a joke i played on myself maybe?

just because so many people have said 'no' just means i am getting closer to a 'yes' probably. i want to see some brave computer-friendly neighborhood tweakage! ingenuity is the mother of skills or something.

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just because so many people have said 'no' just means i am getting closer to a 'yes' probably
don't mistake the offense you cause for progress. because you are simply not understanding that in spite of the strongly-worded responses, i'm beginning to think you are nothing more than a troll.
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hey mr. merrill, are you a moderator of the site by the way? does anybody have more posts than you? i have to believe you are a friend of the devs, or are you a dev? not trying to be nosey, i figure you are somebody big around here. i say this with zero irony or sarcasm of course. at any rate, i appreciate your dedication to the forum. i guess if i was super nosey and not lazy, i would look for your biographical info, but that borders on stalking.
i am not a moderator

i am a loudmouth, and try to help as much as i can around here (i can help with certain things, not much with others), i happen to have alot of posts.

i am not a dev (unless you count coding html or visual basic text boxes)

am i a friend of the devs? i havent met them face to face....

I am just another user... i live in northeastern PA, USA.

i sent you a pm, btw.
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well you arent in the third world, although sweden has had its share of problems i suppose...

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just because so many people have said 'no' just means i am getting closer to a 'yes' probably. i want to see some brave computer-friendly neighborhood tweakage! ingenuity is the mother of skills or something.
that would be akin to cracking it, which is illegal, and not supported or appreciated by the devs, im sure of it. (although i cant speak for them)
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thanks brian!

i hope i didnt cause too much trouble to you all.

i think the best thing about reaper is its hackability, meaning in this case, there are enough options to basically make reaper almost unrecognizeable and completely personalized.

this tread really blew way out of proportion for my taste however!

reaper rules! i will keep on reccomending it to anyone who wants to do music. for real, i know its better than pro tools or fruity loops. its just better. its better than sony acid, its more easy to understand than ableton. it makes logic look illogical, reason unreasonable, etc.

of course everyone should buy a license or just straight up donate money to the developers because they make it easier to make music on your computer!

if i figure out a legal way to hide the nag screen, i will let you know. maybe there is a bug hidden somewhere in the program like an easter egg or something. please dont become offended that there are different opinions in the world!

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Actually Sweden does not 'suck', bad thing happens all over the world!

Try your luck in one of the three biggest cities, shouldn't be to hard to get a part-time job. Almost all people here knows 'english' except maybe some senior citizens, shouldn't be a very huge barrier...
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sorry, reapercurious, you're not doing yourself any favours ... give it up.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:19 AM   #34
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out a legal way to hide the nag screen
that's the part you're not understanding. there is no program option to hide the nag screen. the only legal way to get rid of it is to register the program. also, using the program past 30 days is not legal even with the nag screen.

to do anything otherwise will simply anger many people in these forums.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:47 AM   #35
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hey, i am not the one getting mad at you guys.

i am not even griping about anything. [edit: well, i am griping about my own personal life, not about reaper or the forum!]

i am being creative.

i dont mean to offend sweden, its just not for me except i am frigging stuck here and cant afford a ticket back, and i am homeless in america too so the future really doesnt look as bright as all that.

i am glad that i got such a healthy response to this topic, it has really given me a lot of food for thought.

i cant believe how a few of you guys seem to think i want to break the law. hey, your snap judgements really say more about yourself than they do about me. lets come with some more open minded ways to streamline the nag screen, legally. <--key word there.

seriously, i feel like marky mark in that scene in boogie nights where the guy wants to watch him play with himself but really they are repressed gay men ready to jump him.

please keep it positive. i can take your attacks and more, but its really a waste of your time and energy. how many times do i have to say i am going to buy a license? i think i said that in almost every post in this thread.

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Old 07-21-2009, 11:06 AM   #36
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you arent understanding that

removing the nag screen = illegal, definitely

THERE IS NO LEGAL WAY TO REMOVE THE NAG SCREEN. PERIOD, /THREAD

using reaper after 30 days without paying = technically illegal, although probably wont be helicopters storming your flat

im not mad at all.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:08 AM   #37
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How much do you have invested in instruments, gear, mics, computer, other software, internet access???

I spend less per year on recording than my friends who bowl, golf or drink.

Sorry, but this is not a hobby you can get into for $5.... and if you're that bad off you need to re-think your priorities for actual subsistence...

(And I'm forced-retired with a highly-serious medical condition that'll probably kill me - I haven't brought it up on the board before and I wont go any further into it but I paid for my Reaper licence, so it just doesn't wash...)
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:27 AM   #38
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Next time you done using Reaper the unregistered version just put your pc in stanby or hibernate, that way you won't need to wait 5 seconds, infact you pc will boot quicker using wither of those methods Hmmm.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:40 AM   #39
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Sweden?

Damn man, Sweden is a nice country. I'd like to live there. Lots of good metal bands. Nice salaries, but high cost of life.

RC, please, live with those 5 seconds of nag screen until you earn yourself a licence. Everything else turns out like online whining, which is not doing you any favor, really. It's not really that hard to live through that 5 seconds.

Go for a glass of water.
Go take a piss.
Scratch your balls or something.

Actually all those things take more than 5 seconds generally!

(Please don't get insulted, I'm trying to bring good mood here :P)

There's a million things that can happen in those 5 seconds, if you take your mind off that elusive nag screen.
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:42 PM   #40
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i know the nag screen is only 5 seconds, but its really just a reminder, not a copy protection. it doesnt cripple the program at all.
So, despite it being "only" five seconds and not crippling the program in any way (most other pay software would have you down to eight tracks and no saving allowed, incidentally), it's still causing you a headache?

Are you one of those people who stands at an elevator frantically pushing the button in the hope of making it show up faster, or the pedestrian button when you want to cross the street?

In all niceness, grow up.

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basically, i could question why its even there, but thats not my business.
To remind people, such as yourself, that Reaper isn't free.

I'll admit, I went four or five months without getting a license because. like you, I simply didn't have the extra pocket money. I also put up with the nag screen without any complaints, because that's what I've come to expect from trial software that's expired. As the others in this thread have repeatedly mentioned, once the free month is up you ARE technically using an illegal copy.

Rule #1 of using illegal software: Do not ask for help with issues relating to the fact that it's illegal on the official website. It's tacky, and you really do deserve whatever nasty comments get thrown at you as a result.

Would you buy a fake Timex in New York and then ask Timex to repair it? Would you ask a passing cop for help if you stole a car and it broke down?

I imagine the answer is "no" to both. Why, then, would you ask for a Reaper crack on the Reaper forum? Sure, all you're cracking is the nag screen, because Reaper is really nice doesn't cripple anything, but that simply brings us back to the beginning of my post.

If you have issues setting Reaper up, need a hand figuring out how to do something, whatever, I and most of the other folks here will be happy to help regardless of whether your license is paid for. Just don't wave it in everyone's face and expect a pleasant response. Up here, for instance, the cops largely ignore pot, but it's just common courtesy not to light up in front of them.
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