Old 08-04-2020, 02:43 PM   #401
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hell yes i'm in! thank you for reviving! You may want to post in general section to announce it's return as I just thought I'd check randomly today.
good point, thanks!
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Old 08-10-2020, 09:36 AM   #402
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Hi Friends!..

Dave, Could you confirm that my submition is up?

Thank you in advanced!

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Old 08-10-2020, 10:17 AM   #403
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Hi, I'm not in charge of this new contest so you have to ask to darjama
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Old 08-10-2020, 10:59 AM   #404
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Hi, I'm not in charge of this new contest so you have to ask to darjama

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Thanks Dave.


I just figure out that there is a specific forum threat nfor the new contest.

I'll ask there.

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Old 08-20-2020, 09:55 AM   #405
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Time to vote! I'm still working out some of the bugs, so please let me know if you have any problems.

https://reamixed.com/vote/
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Old 08-20-2020, 10:32 AM   #406
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Time to vote! I'm still working out some of the bugs, so please let me know if you have any problems.

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People can vote anytime many times as them want?
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:23 AM   #407
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People can vote anytime many times as them want?
No, you should only vote once. It's on the honor system, though I do have some controls in place.
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Old 08-21-2020, 06:42 PM   #408
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sent my votes with comments. Its not easy or quick to go through these and make comments. You'll probably need an hour

Right now I'll say there were 5 that were close to sounding right. the 3 I picked were fairly similar but none were really awesome.
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Old 08-21-2020, 08:39 PM   #409
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I'm considering trying a tournament style vote next month, something like:

day 1-2: pick the best out of group1
day 3-4: pick the best out of group2
day 5-6: pick the best out of group3
day 7-8: pick the best out of group4
day 9-10: pick the best of the winners

It would require people coming back and participating regularly. It would be nice to get more people who didn't mix voting, and I feel like asking people to rate 3 - 4 songs at a time vs 13 might help with that, but who knows.

In this scenario you would just pick your favorite as well, not the top 3.
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:12 AM   #410
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Time to vote! I'm still working out some of the bugs, so please let me know if you have any problems.

https://reamixed.com/vote/
Just seen this. Nice page. Will get listening..

Worth posting on Facebook pages? Including JT's?
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:53 AM   #411
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Just voted. Wasn't easy. But the page made it as easy as possible. I like the ability to put notes in as i listened.

There were quite a few better than mine, and i could hear exactly what was wrong with mine when i listened back to back with others. Almost felt like i'd sent in the wrong mix!

Thanks again for organising. And look forward to seeing what others thought of mixes i thought were good and then taking a look through how they achieved the results. And coming back next month to do a better job!
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Just seen this. Nice page. Will get listening..

Worth posting on Facebook pages? Including JT's?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/reap...3526274370617/
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Old 08-24-2020, 06:09 PM   #413
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What?! WHat?! WHAT?!

Something to get away from all the nuttiness.

I feel better already!

THANK YOU for providing a contest @darjama

Peace!
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:34 PM   #414
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The September contest is live: https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=241808

Come on in, the water's fine!
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Old 09-13-2020, 06:27 PM   #415
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What are people doing for limiting to -1 dbtp

I seem to have spent 6 hours adding saturation, using several of the event horizon's etc and it's become a guessing game because of intersampling peaks.

I've even tried setting my project at 192, using project settings for fx and while rendering to flac at 44.1 and that doesn't work.

I have resorted to just turning it down and getting close to -1dbtp as possible. But that seems a bit of a rubbish way to do it.

BTW - i'm importing the rendered file back into Reaper and using the SWS Extension Loudness to measure?! Is that in itself flawed?

I know there was another thread about this 3 years ago but that seemed to suggest trial and error too.
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JS Master Limiter is the best way to do it. You need a limiter and that's probably the best stock one. I use Event Horizon but never on my Master Buss.

I would encourage you to aim for a great mix first. I always have a parent channel that everything goes thru on it's way to the Master Buss. If I get a great sounding mix that's too loud, you can either select all channels band turn down all the faders at once, or turn down all the busses, or in my case (since I use a parent buss) I can just turn down the parent buss.

You should ideally hit the master buss with all it's buss effects off at around -12 to -18. Then hopefully your master buss FX aren't increasing or decreasing the volume. This is where your Limiter comes in. You use the Limiter to set a ceiling and to get the volume up to your target (in our case -14 LUFS).

The threshold will turn the volume up. There is an Art to using Limiting that starts with your mix and use of Compression. But if you want the most dynamic sounding mix, you should TRY to get to your target without the use of a limiter. Now mind you, it's tough to do.

Personally, I try to get within 2db of my target and up to 4db depending on my vision for the song. More Limiting equals less dynamics, some music likes that and some doesn't.
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What are people doing for limiting to -1 dbtp
It's been clarified now that it's a -1dBFS limit, so no need to worry if intersample peaks goes above this as long as the digital samples themselves don't.
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JS Master Limiter is the best way to do it. You need a limiter and that's probably the best stock one. I use Event Horizon but never on my Master Buss.

I would encourage you to aim for a great mix first. I always have a parent channel that everything goes thru on it's way to the Master Buss. If I get a great sounding mix that's too loud, you can either select all channels band turn down all the faders at once, or turn down all the busses, or in my case (since I use a parent buss) I can just turn down the parent buss.

You should ideally hit the master buss with all it's buss effects off at around -12 to -18. Then hopefully your master buss FX aren't increasing or decreasing the volume. This is where your Limiter comes in. You use the Limiter to set a ceiling and to get the volume up to your target (in our case -14 LUFS).

The threshold will turn the volume up. There is an Art to using Limiting that starts with your mix and use of Compression. But if you want the most dynamic sounding mix, you should TRY to get to your target without the use of a limiter. Now mind you, it's tough to do.

Personally, I try to get within 2db of my target and up to 4db depending on my vision for the song. More Limiting equals less dynamics, some music likes that and some doesn't.
Thank you for the full and detailed reply!

I now remember a video from someone called Audio Hackr now explaining how to b master. I think I might have even copied his preset and used it by rote as I didn't understand limiting. It was around the same time I thought people were stupid for wanting to distort stuff (ie saturation) as 30 years ago when I last did this on tape decks, getting rid of noise and distortion was the goal 😂😂😂

Thanks again. Will slap that on along with 8 JS Saturation plugins to get it loud and I'm done 😂

I finished last last time. So I can't get much worse!! 🤔😂
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It's been clarified now that it's a -1dBFS limit, so no need to worry if intersample peaks goes above this as long as the digital samples themselves don't.
Ahhh I must have not spotted that. I just remember in last month's I got it to -0.1 as I thought that was the goal in general. And that was pointed out in the feedback, which I'm grateful for, as I've since learned about ISPs on compressed formats. And have a better understanding of compressors, limiting, clipping and saturation.


Even so far as to consider this clip to zero method I saw on YouTube. Since I'm ITB.

I think I've missed a few tricks in how I've used event horizon in this comp as I learned stuff since starting, but I will try it again with TDR limiter 6 on the mixchecks Empires competition. The idea is to get loud without overly compressing things and just using channel strips on everything. I'm still only a few months in and so every month is a revelation!
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Old 09-14-2020, 10:20 AM   #420
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That's my submission in.

I'm hoping to do at least as well as last time!

I gave up on the -1dbtp and just went for -1dbfs

Off to do the Empires Mix next.... Ken Lewis has said he'll enter....so that's something to aim for!
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:06 AM   #421
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Something i came across while trying to get -1dbtp.

My interface is set at 96lhz. And normally i do my projects at 48khz. But after finishing my mix i set the project setting to 192khz and rendered (with the use project rate for FX set) to try and get the limiters to over-sample and thus avoid the inter-sample peaks getting through (this is my probably wrong very basic knowledge at work). It was better but didn't work like TDR's limiter. Hey ho...no big deal as -1dbfs is cool.

However something that did happen which i didn't pick up until after i had submitted was that one or more of the reverbs (most likely altantis) got louder in the mix because i had used a higher sample rate.

Another lesson learned....check the mix before you send it!
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Old 09-25-2020, 08:05 AM   #422
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So I have a question. There are ReaPack scripts and extensions that we can run while mixing. Technically they are stock and available to everyone.

However, let's take MPL Align for instance. Since we aren't altering the stock tracks no adjustments we make with scripts that do things like alignment will matter since you don't use the flac we render but use our project files with the stock tracks to render what is presented on the website if I understand things correctly?

So then, we can't in fact use everything available to us that comes stock or free with Reaper after all, or am I misunderstanding how this works?
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Old 09-25-2020, 04:26 PM   #423
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I haven't used scripts too much, but I think that should be okay. If you worked on a .rpp file with a script and I open it up without the script it would still render the same, right? Perhaps there are cases where this wouldn't be true, but I'd need to explore it.

I'm open to testing on this if you like. You can send me a flac and an rpp you've worked on with a script. I'll rerender from my portable install and see if it nulls with your when I flip the phase on one of them.
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Old 09-26-2020, 04:30 AM   #424
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That's doable. I'll try this on the next monthly contest for ease of access to tracks.

Regrettably I didn't get to participate in the last contest as things are turbulent here...my Mother is in Hospice and we are trying to sell her house so that we can pay for her staying at the nursing home which of course Hospice and Medicare do NOT cover!
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Just a little over 13 hours left to get your October entries in!
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Old 10-16-2020, 01:02 PM   #426
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Just a little over 13 hours left to get your October entries in!
Moved house so didn't get time to do my submission.

Will give someone else a chance to finish last.. I'll be back to win my title back next month.

Best of everyone. If I get a chance I'll vote.
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Old 11-01-2020, 02:58 PM   #427
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The November contest has begun, hope you can join us!

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https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=244327

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