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08-06-2019, 05:48 PM
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v5.981+dev0806 - August 6 2019
v5.981+dev0806 - August 6 2019
# FX chain: better left-pane resizing DPI-awareness
# FX chain: left-pane resizing flicker improvements
# Windows: reduce JSFX flickering when in docked FX chain
# Windows: reduce flicker in unaffected docks during resize
# main window: improve vertical scroll behavior when resizing window/dockers
# meters: fix more overdraw bugs
# tcp meter: hide when supercollapsed, unless theme composition version 6
# track meters: prevent drawing outside bounds of panel
Full changelog / Latest pre-releases
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08-07-2019, 01:50 AM
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# main window: improve vertical scroll behavior when resizing window/dockers
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Yes !! Many thanks for this update !
So I tested to extended docked windows to see if it scroll arrange view:
- Horizontally: tested with and without track selected, works perfectly. The arrange view doesn't scroll at all.
- Vertically: The arrange view doesn't scroll, however, we can see a small change in track zoom height. Not especially expected (when we extend a lateral docked window, it doesn't zoom horizontally in the arrange view), but usable.
(See how my TCP meters numbers disappears because I extend a docked window vertically)
(side note: Media explorer still flickers a bit :P)
Though opening a docked bottom/top window also produces this TCP height change, so at least it is consistent and predictable and so not too disturbing.
Last edited by X-Raym; 08-07-2019 at 01:58 AM.
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08-07-2019, 02:08 AM
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Still in window / dock resize problems, I just opened this thread:
Another "common usage" issue I face every day on every computer, and which affects all users (as far as I know)
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Anyway, all this windows management, flickering etc are very welcomed, you can be sure of that ! Really appreciated.
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08-07-2019, 02:15 AM
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# main window: improve vertical scroll behavior when resizing window/dockers
Awesome! Haven't tested yet but hopefully this means the arrange page doesn't go back to the top and lose it's vertical position when you add in side tool bars etc thanks!
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08-07-2019, 02:27 AM
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Whats going on when mouse is over envelope lane? This is not related to this pre but in general, there seems to be some lag which is most noticable when scripts have GUI. For example my area script lags when updating graphical parts if mouse is over envelope lane, both debug window and even more areas graphics
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08-07-2019, 02:36 AM
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Impressive. These are all quality of life improvements to me.
In that vein I have to bring this one thing up.
The time it takes Reaper to display the docked FX Chain view upon track switching is very long.
I realize part of this is the plugins fault, but I do need to point out that Reaper destroys the FX Chain view, then draws another view, if one is tabbed in with the FX Chain view, and then draws the new FX Chain view.
I've created a simple little demonstration video (5 MB) to show this process, and put it on my own Dropbox.
MP4 1080p 60fps - 5 MB filesize
The extra view tabs are actually a blessing in that particular setup. If they were absent, Reaper would expand the video view all across where the FX Chain view previously was, and then resize the thing again before drawing the new FX Chain view.
Half a second is a long time when you're editing. You can get used to it but it slows you down considerably. It's pretty much the only nasty GUI complaint I have at this point.
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08-07-2019, 04:47 AM
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houston we have a problem
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08-07-2019, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nappies
houston we have a problem
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Can you post a static screenshot of your entire main window? I'd like to see how all of the dockers are arranged. Also, what OS version? thanks!
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08-07-2019, 06:29 AM
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I've just pushed a branch of SWS called "reaper_next" which has changes to make various BR_* APIs work with 5.981+dev0807 which will be out later today... Perhaps I can make some binaries of that SWS branch too.
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08-07-2019, 06:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
I've just pushed a branch of SWS called "reaper_next" which has changes to make various BR_* APIs work with 5.981+dev0807 which will be out later today... Perhaps I can make some binaries of that SWS branch too.
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Sounds amazing!
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08-07-2019, 07:06 AM
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Regarding my post,here is GIFFY
You can see that even value updates in the window have some lag
EDIT: This seems to be fixed if you turn off tooltips in preferences and it also seems to be heavy on cpu (over 10% cpu usage when mouse over envelopes)
Last edited by Sexan; 08-07-2019 at 07:14 AM.
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08-07-2019, 07:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
I've just pushed a branch of SWS called "reaper_next" which has changes to make various BR_* APIs work with 5.981+dev0807 which will be out later today... Perhaps I can make some binaries of that SWS branch too.
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Great, thanks.
If you don't get around making the binaries, I could do for Win and OSX, not Linux though currently.
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08-07-2019, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Can you post a static screenshot of your entire main window? I'd like to see how all of the dockers are arranged. Also, what OS version? thanks!
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Windows 10 LTSB version 1607 OS Build 14393.351
Here screens with fresh install https://imgur.com/gvzs2WG
With config https://imgur.com/KB8m0Bl
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08-07-2019, 07:44 AM
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This happens when resizing the mixer. As you can see the mixer meter drags and a new arrange scroll bar is created.
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08-07-2019, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nofish
Great, thanks.
If you don't get around making the binaries, I could do for Win and OSX, not Linux though currently.
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Posted these built with VC2013 (disabled taglib) (and the updated REAPER build)... linux users can build their own, I imagine?
I'm sure there is plenty more SWS code that will need to be updated, this is a start anyway.
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08-07-2019, 07:55 AM
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When midi editor window is docked its not redrawing when I try and change height of Midi Editor until I click say a track and then it gets redrawn.
I also see midi toolbar icons and piano roll getting drawn over gui like nappies shows in post #7.
UPDATE: I guess its not limited to just the midi editor, the lower docker is now painting all weird!
Win10(1903) x64
Last edited by Edgemeal; 08-07-2019 at 08:02 AM.
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08-07-2019, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Edgemeal
When midi editor window is docked its not redrawing when I try and change height of Midi Editor until I click say a track and then it gets redrawn.
I also see midi toolbar icons and piano roll getting drawn over gui like nappies shows in post #7.
UPDATE: I guess its not limited to just the midi editor, the lower docker is now painting all weird!
Win10(1903) x64
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Should be fixed in 0807 (now available)
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08-07-2019, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Justin
Should be fixed in 0807 (now available)
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Ya just got it, seems OK now!
THANKS!
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08-07-2019, 09:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexan
Regarding my post,here is GIFFY
You can see that even value updates in the window have some lag
EDIT: This seems to be fixed if you turn off tooltips in preferences and it also seems to be heavy on cpu (over 10% cpu usage when mouse over envelopes)
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ps, unequivocally excited for this workflow "modernizer" to pull our DAW out of the selection dark-ages.
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08-16-2019, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
I've just pushed a branch of SWS called "reaper_next" which has changes to make various BR_* APIs work with 5.981+dev0807 which will be out later today... Perhaps I can make some binaries of that SWS branch too.
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Which minimum Reaper version is required so that BR_GetMouseCursorContext() works with your changes, i.e. are they compatible with official v5.981 and older?
(asking because about to preparing a new SWS release..)
Last edited by nofish; 08-16-2019 at 02:47 PM.
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08-16-2019, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nofish
Which minimum Reaper version is required so that BR_GetMouseCursorContext() works with your changes, i.e. are they compatible with official v5.981 and older?
(asking because about to preparing a new SWS release..)
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They should be compatible, yes, they only use the new APIs if they are available. Having said that -- they need a lot of testing! Should probably keep it out of the main release for a bit (beta, maybe?).
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08-17-2019, 05:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
They should be compatible, yes, they only use the new APIs if they are available. Having said that -- they need a lot of testing! Should probably keep it out of the main release for a bit (beta, maybe?).
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Thanks.
Agreed, I also think next SWS release should be beta anyway since, besides from your contribution, there's other stuff that should be tested first before going official.
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