Pure Data (Pd) for Reaper, better than Max for Live? [IDEAS]

[TonE]

This thread is about sharing ideas what is possible with Pure Data (Pd) for Reaper, on various systems. Linux, Mac, Windows. What is available? What is working on which system?

The ultimate goal for each system is finding a solution which allows following:
- load any pd patch (visual programmed solution of pd) in Reaper.
- allowing automation of at least 8 selected parameters via Reaper.
- having the big advantage of synced timing between pd patch and Reaper.
- audio and midi inputs and outputs have to work to and from Reaper.


If you tested any tool or a combination of tools for a given system (linux, mac, win), please share your experiences, with workaround tricks if available. Thanks.

Here a first video from 2016, the youtube comment saying only for mac. So at least mac users could try this. (Linux here)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9FB9tQLhUY

[mschnell]

I have no knowlege at all about PD, but doing a VST for all relevant targets is rather easy using JUCE.

-Michael

[TonE]

No, it has to work without any programming. Just load in your pd patch, inside this tool, then use it directly. No programming. Compatible with non programmers. This is the idea here.

[mschnell]

Yep that is exactly what meant.

Somebody might create a VST3 (VST2 are not "allowed" any more), using Juce and the (supposedly open source) PD library, and the user should be able to have that VST3 load her PD projects.

-Michael

[Rodilab]

There have been attempts :

• Pd-Pulp
  Windows only, only 1 Pd instance at time
• PdVst
  VST2 Windows only
• Camomile
  Convert a Pd patch to VST3. So it's not so fast and flexible

Nothing like Max for Live for now...
I use "ReaInsert" with virtual buses like Soundflower, Jack or Blackhole.

[Rodilab]

True integration like N-Track should be possible. But it probably requires a lot of work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlKdVJy72rs&t=3s

Edit : Mschnell is right. To achieve this, someone have to code a VST3 (C++ with Juce, iPlug2, or others) who integrate the open-source Pd code.
Ideally, this VST would allow you to edit and process a pd patch internally. Without the need to launch a standalone Pd instance.
Then, additional objects would allow to receive/send values to the different Host Params.
A lot of work indeed...

[TonE]

Originally Posted by Rodilab

I use "ReaInsert" with virtual buses like Soundflower, Jack or Blackhole.

Can you tell more about this? Are you routing midi as well? And clock sync? I am mainly interested in those two, midi and clock sync. Any workarounds for those, except above tools, first should be for Mac (not Win).