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Old 02-11-2020, 09:12 AM   #1
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Hi all,

Just started using ninjam (well, listening at the moment).

Given the way it handles latency (i.e. deliberately holding things back, as far as I can understand), is it that for a singer and guitarist in two different places, this wouldn't work?
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:44 AM   #2
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I am afraid it won't work (for your proposed use case).
NINJAM is great for jamming, but realy not usable for structured music/songs by the nature of protocol it is using.

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Read following posts (it's post #64 and #65) to understand how it works (who hears what...)
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....ge=2&p=2230659

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Old 02-11-2020, 09:50 AM   #3
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Ah, that's what I thought. Cheers for the reply.
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Old 02-11-2020, 10:12 AM   #4
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Ah, that's what I thought. Cheers for the reply.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:12 PM   #5
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It might work somehow, if one leads the tempo, is this not correct, akademie?
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:38 PM   #6
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Have a read of this to get an idea of what goes on and then decide:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....59#post2230659
It's not tempo that's an issue.
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Old 03-24-2020, 03:09 PM   #7
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I understand that, however in order to have only one as the first let us say metronome setter, when he plays, anyway does not listen to his mix and allows only his duo partner to join, the duo partner can follow him, record that so later the first player can analize it. Correct?
So it would go in a way one player being deaf for one take (which many times happens live unfortunately :P) ...
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Old 03-25-2020, 02:00 AM   #8
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You could do that, of course. Whether it would result in what you're expecting is a different matter. The hearer would record what they hear. But each will hear something very different.
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Old 03-25-2020, 02:30 AM   #9
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Ok, thanks, so the the question from dchurch is now completely answered. It is possible with Ninjam, if one leads and hears only himself. If the music allows that it would probably be the guitarist leading, the singer recording (overdubbing).
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