Reaper For Linux vs. Reaper On Wine

michael diemer · 06-23-2022, 10:27 AM

Anyone have any thoughts on which is better? For example, do vst's work better on one than the other? I've never actually tried regular Reaper via wine. If the performance was comparable, it seems like it would be a lot simpler than RFL, with its need for conversion apps and such. I am thinking about giving it a try, but if it's a waste of time, maybe someone can point me back to reality?

BethHarmon · 06-23-2022, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by michael diemer

Anyone have any thoughts on which is better? For example, do vst's work better on one than the other? I've never actually tried regular Reaper via wine. If the performance was comparable, it seems like it would be a lot simpler than RFL, with its need for conversion apps and such. I am thinking about giving it a try, but if it's a waste of time, maybe someone can point me back to reality?

I can point you to only using REAPER for Linux

If REAPER itself is running via WINE, it doesn't mean plugins don't also have to run via WINE. Indeed, I'm not even sure what would happen. My own view = waste of time. Native Linux is just as stable as REAPER for Windows or MacOS.

audiojunkie · 06-23-2022, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by michael diemer

Anyone have any thoughts on which is better? For example, do vst's work better on one than the other? I've never actually tried regular Reaper via wine. If the performance was comparable, it seems like it would be a lot simpler than RFL, with its need for conversion apps and such. I am thinking about giving it a try, but if it's a waste of time, maybe someone can point me back to reality?

IIRC, Reaper 6.x has been marked Platinum by WINEHQ for those testing it, so it should work fine. One thing to note, which I don't think will be a problem for you (if I remember correctly, you already use JACK), is that WINEASIO uses JACK. While applications and plugins native to your OS are the best, I know of a couple of people who use Windows apps and plugins exclusively. I'd be willing to bet you would not have too many problems.

ForrestH · 06-23-2022, 11:16 AM

If you happen to have a Windows wave editor, it's probably easier to set it as an external editor in REAPER-on-WINE.

michael diemer · 06-23-2022, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BethHarmon

I can point you to only using REAPER for Linux

If REAPER itself is running via WINE, it doesn't mean plugins don't also have to run via WINE. Indeed, I'm not even sure what would happen. My own view = waste of time. Native Linux is just as stable as REAPER for Windows or MacOS.

Thanks Beth, your opinion is highly valued. I kind of figured it would not be a magic bullet for vst's, and almost certainly not for dongles.

michael diemer · 06-23-2022, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by audiojunkie

IIRC, Reaper 6.x has been marked Platinum by WINEHQ for those testing it, so it should work fine. One thing to note, which I don't think will be a problem for you (if I remember correctly, you already use JACK), is that WINEASIO uses JACK. While applications and plugins native to your OS are the best, I know of a couple of people who use Windows apps and plugins exclusively. I'd be willing to bet you would not have too many problems.

Actually I don't use Jack. After fooling with it on Muse, I came running to Reaper for the simplicity of Alsa.

I may try it, but I'll probably stay with RFL. Besides, the devs went to a lot trouble to make it, and for a pretty small user base, so I kind of feel I need to be loyal to it.

michael diemer · 06-23-2022, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ForrestH

If you happen to have a Windows wave editor, it's probably easier to set it as an external editor in REAPER-on-WINE.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

Mcgiver69 · 06-23-2022, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by michael diemer

Actually I don't use Jack. After fooling with it on Muse, I came running to Reaper for the simplicity of Alsa.

I may try it, but I'll probably stay with RFL. Besides, the devs went to a lot trouble to make it, and for a pretty small user base, so I kind of feel I need to be loyal to it.

If you decide to try Jack I would recommend to install Cadence and manage it through it. Cadence simplifies everything and you don't need to manually connect devices, Cadence does that for you.

michael diemer · 06-23-2022, 04:52 PM

That's good to know. Hopefully I'll remember it. Beyond tomorrow...

Mcgiver69 · 06-24-2022, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by michael diemer

That's good to know. Hopefully I'll remember it. Beyond tomorrow...

Hahaha I know the feeling

ForrestH · 06-28-2022, 06:43 AM

One more advantage of WINE REAPER: when searching in the Preferences, you get a red outline around the matched item. On Linux all you get is an animation than disappears before some people can focus on it...

michael diemer · 06-28-2022, 09:08 AM

Here's another: the Windows version has larger fonts than the Linux one.

audiojunkie · 06-28-2022, 09:14 AM

This is just my opinion, but it seems reasonable, that since WINE is only becoming "more" compatible day by day, and since supported versions of Windows drop off (as far as compatibility and support goes--ie WinXP, Win7, etc), WINE may, in time, be more compatible than Windows for certain software. For example, How many people have their old software from the last 20 years sitting around? I know I do. If I really wanted to, I could pull up a lot of that old stuff and probably get it working better on Linux with WINE than on Windows 10 or Windows 11. I have 20 years of software!!

Now that I've finally settled on my Linux distro (I've moved from EndeavourOS to Fedora), I'm probably going to experiment with bringing a lot of that back to life.

I'd love to see how well Windows 11 users pull that off (as far as old versions of software goes).

ForrestH · 06-28-2022, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by michael diemer

Here's another: the Windows version has larger fonts than the Linux one.

Not if you edit libSwell-user.colortheme. Aller 16 looks terrific! ...at least until you run up against the fields in dialogs that aren't set to full width, in which case the text gets cropped.

4duhwinnn · 06-28-2022, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by audiojunkie

Now that I've finally settled on my Linux distro (I've moved from EndeavourOS to Fedora), I'm probably going to experiment with bringing a lot of that back to life.

I'd love to see how well Windows 11 users pull that off (as far as old versions of software goes).

Hurray, now we can pester you about the latest pipewire versions and
how they run in friendly territory!

michael diemer · 06-28-2022, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ForrestH

Not if you edit libSwell-user.colortheme. Aller 16 looks terrific! ...at least until you run up against the fields in dialogs that aren't set to full width, in which case the text gets cropped.

Thanks for the tip!

audiojunkie · 06-28-2022, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 4duhwinnn

Hurray, now we can pester you about the latest pipewire versions and
how they run in friendly territory!

06-23-2022, 10:27 AM	#1
michael diemer Human being with feelings Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Maine Posts: 724	Reaper For Linux vs. Reaper On Wine Anyone have any thoughts on which is better? For example, do vst's work better on one than the other? I've never actually tried regular Reaper via wine. If the performance was comparable, it seems like it would be a lot simpler than RFL, with its need for conversion apps and such. I am thinking about giving it a try, but if it's a waste of time, maybe someone can point me back to reality?

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06-23-2022, 11:16 AM	#4
ForrestH Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 22	If you happen to have a Windows wave editor, it's probably easier to set it as an external editor in REAPER-on-WINE.

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michael diemer Human being with feelings Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Maine Posts: 724	That's good to know. Hopefully I'll remember it. Beyond tomorrow...

06-28-2022, 06:43 AM	#11
ForrestH Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 22	One more advantage of WINE REAPER: when searching in the Preferences, you get a red outline around the matched item. On Linux all you get is an animation than disappears before some people can focus on it...

06-28-2022, 09:08 AM	#12
michael diemer Human being with feelings Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Maine Posts: 724	Here's another: the Windows version has larger fonts than the Linux one.

06-28-2022, 09:14 AM	#13
audiojunkie Human being with feelings Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 517	This is just my opinion, but it seems reasonable, that since WINE is only becoming "more" compatible day by day, and since supported versions of Windows drop off (as far as compatibility and support goes--ie WinXP, Win7, etc), WINE may, in time, be more compatible than Windows for certain software. For example, How many people have their old software from the last 20 years sitting around? I know I do. If I really wanted to, I could pull up a lot of that old stuff and probably get it working better on Linux with WINE than on Windows 10 or Windows 11. I have 20 years of software!! Now that I've finally settled on my Linux distro (I've moved from EndeavourOS to Fedora), I'm probably going to experiment with bringing a lot of that back to life. I'd love to see how well Windows 11 users pull that off (as far as old versions of software goes).