Old 11-11-2019, 07:18 AM   #1
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Default Exponential rythms generation

Who knows how to implement exponential rhythm series in midi?
Or how to mimic this technique:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbsQ3w0hPcw
I tried. It works but i used samples and automated pitch. Any ideas scripts for this kind of tasks?
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:42 AM   #2
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is there a way to convert makers to midi events/notes? I can't find anything within the actions.
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Old 01-23-2020, 03:16 PM   #3
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If you paint in a bunch of short notes, I think you could do something in the midi editor with
juliansader's 1-sided Warp script
Which you would need to install (via Reapack? bit of a pain)
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Old 01-24-2020, 04:10 AM   #4
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Thats is cool, what he does.

One should be able to do all of that in Reaper.. Another way that it could be achieved is to place some regular MIDI notes or drum samples on a 16th grid then use the tempo automation to slow or speed up the song while recording. Experiment.
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Old 01-24-2020, 04:30 AM   #5
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you could either do it by hand - which is more or less what he does with that stretched drum hit, or you could use reagate to generate midi from a stretched or glitchy sample, or you could use sequencer baby 2 and modulate the rate
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Old 01-24-2020, 10:52 AM   #6
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Add some notes, use the warp script.
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Old 01-24-2020, 01:20 PM   #7
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no offence, but I had a look at the Ableton/youtube thing & was left wondering WHY anyone would want to do something this un-musical & call it music. I guess I am just too damn old.
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Old 01-24-2020, 01:49 PM   #8
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Add some notes, use the warp script.
that's the one for sure
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:55 PM   #9
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EDIT: nevermind...

thank you!

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Old 06-23-2022, 06:23 AM   #10
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Hey there!

I found this post and tried to find the Warp script that's shown on the gif. but can't find it.

Does it still excist?
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Old 06-23-2022, 09:13 AM   #11
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I used to do this back in the day with audio in Acid Pro, removing/confusing the transient detection so it stutters the wav in weird ways. Its one thing I really missed when moving to Reaper. I think I even made a thread asking if it was possible in Reaper.

Interesting thread, thanks. Interesting that something I found by accident is now an accepted part of workflow! I dont ever want to go back to Ableton, I hated it, but damn, I'd love this technique back in my arsenal, for audio.

EDIT: 2 years old thread, are we any closer to doing this in the media explorer?
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Old 06-23-2022, 09:38 AM   #12
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I literally was doing this a few days ago hehe I kind of made it but it only works with shorter samples like a snare or percussion hit.

https://i.imgur.com/VByC2YH.gif

Load RS5k and sample, add a sample end envelope by touching the sample end line first, make a downward ramp, check the loop box to make it repeat, and just move your envelope to however long you want it to go. After this I usually send it to another track and record the output and we're done.
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Old 06-23-2022, 09:44 AM   #13
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Ah thats great, thanks. The gif explained it all perfectly, I see what youre doing.

Great technique! I do all this manually with copy/paste and manually using stretch thing with alt + left mouse click, and the item volume envelope. I'll add this technique as an option to use now tho!
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Old 06-23-2022, 10:15 AM   #14
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Hey again!

I'd really like to know if there's anyone who knows about the script where u can change the MIDI notes like in the gif above where "jrk" is just dragging the mouse to get that exponential style rythms?

All the other techniques i already know and use, but it's not what "jrk" is doing there.

I can't find any "warp" or "ReaTeam" scripts or modifiers to do that.

Much love!
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Old 06-23-2022, 11:42 AM   #15
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Hey again!

I'd really like to know if there's anyone who knows about the script where u can change the MIDI notes like in the gif above where "jrk" is just dragging the mouse to get that exponential style rythms?

All the other techniques i already know and use, but it's not what "jrk" is doing there.

I can't find any "warp" or "ReaTeam" scripts or modifiers to do that.

Much love!
I havent used them myself, but searching Reapack comes up with 1-sided Warp and 2-sided Warp, both are for the MIDI Editor. Have you tried those?
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Old 06-23-2022, 11:55 AM   #16
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Mhh it's really weird. I installed all packages but can't find the command u're tellin me. If i browse packages i cant find anything "1-sided" or "warp" related either.
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Old 06-23-2022, 12:01 PM   #17
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I cant imagine this is much help but...

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Old 06-23-2022, 12:08 PM   #18
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I've got 2324 packages in total but no warp.. do u have a really old version of reaper installed maybe?

If i Type "js_mouse..." i get 8 different scripts from juliansader but not the one i'd like to see ^^
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Old 06-23-2022, 12:12 PM   #19
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Latest Reaper, but I havent updated Reapack for a while. Let me check if it needs updating and they disappear

Yup, updating Reapack says they are no longer in the repository. D'oh!
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Old 06-23-2022, 12:15 PM   #20
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Mhhh... but since u're still were able to use them i guess there are no issues with the newer versions. Are u aware of any way to get access to the outdated scripts?

ps.: i hope u made an backup and havent lost anything u need ^^
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Old 06-23-2022, 12:19 PM   #21
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I updated, they are gone, but I dont use any Reapack stuff atm anyway

Nope sorry, scripts etc is a total blind spot for me.
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Old 06-23-2022, 12:21 PM   #22
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Okay, thanks for the effort. You helped me alot!
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Old 06-23-2022, 12:28 PM   #23
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How is just select notes in the midi editor, and alt-left mouse grab and drag not doing what you want? Is that not the same thing?

I assume thats what the warp script would do and thats why its gone?

EDIT: Wait, never mind, I see how the gif is different.
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Old 06-23-2022, 01:34 PM   #24
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Yeah it's quite a different approach from everything i've seen so far, thats why i really wanted to try it for myself. Too bad that it isnt supported anymore.

Maybe i'll start a fresh post tomorrow and request this feature in the feature request category, someone might done a similar script or is capable of scripting this.
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Old 06-23-2022, 01:40 PM   #25
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Also birdbird's item modifier has a tension function which kind of does the same but just with items, not midi notes. Could be handy too.

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=265491
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Ah thats great, thanks.
No problem man! The more ways we can share the better hahaha i just saved the track as a template track and just pull it up when needed, pretty handy too
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Yeah it's quite a different approach from everything i've seen so far, thats why i really wanted to try it for myself. Too bad that it isnt supported anymore.

Maybe i'll start a fresh post tomorrow and request this feature in the feature request category, someone might done a similar script or is capable of scripting this.
I would use this, for sure. So yeah, if you FR it or find a way to do it easily, I'd be interested.

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Also birdbird's item modifier has a tension function which kind of does the same but just with items, not midi notes. Could be handy too.

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=265491
On it This looks marvelous! Thanks! And it works on MIDI items so its performing a very similar function. Amazing. This is going to save me loads of time - just the delay builder thing is something I do manually by hand copy/pasting, or dragging copy, stretch, reverse. All separate steps. To have the same stuff but with sliders is amazing

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