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09-08-2020, 07:18 AM
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v6.13+dev0908 - September 8 2020
v6.13+dev0908 - September 8 2020
- + Accessibility: improve show-context-menu support for VoiceOver
- + Accessibility: improve state reporting for toolbar buttons
- + Arrange: allow showing both item handle/knobs, or neither
- + Item defaults: allow disabling default fade-in/fade-out lengths for imported media
- # Actions: minor rewording of actions to enable/disable/toggle trim content behind items when editing
- # Mixer FX context menu: add (customization-aware) FX parameter submenu
This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.
Changelog - Pre-Releases
Generated by X-Raym's REAPER ChangeLog to BBCode
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09-08-2020, 07:45 AM
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I want to configure so that I would dragging RS / AS by the edge. But "No action" is broken. And no modifier in Razor edit edge to just drag or copy whole area.Please add a modifier so that you can move / copy with the left button by the edge too.
Last edited by nappies; 09-08-2020 at 07:58 AM.
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09-08-2020, 07:56 AM
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Initiating razor edits while dragging envelope points does some weird things:
Last edited by BirdBird; 12-27-2020 at 11:05 AM.
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09-08-2020, 08:26 AM
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If the "Actions" and "Customize menus/toolbars" windows are both open and I change the combobox index then both windows redraw much-much slower then v6.13 does, when I try using mousewheel to scroll down a few items its even worse.
Win10 x64
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09-08-2020, 09:35 AM
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+ Arrange: allow showing both item handle/knobs, or neither
I like this. The arrange page now looks cleaner and I don't keep catching the mouse on a volume knob by accident. Thanks
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09-08-2020, 10:20 AM
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Thank you devs. Just want to pedantically point out that the Arrange View Mouse Modifier prefs says 'Swap item and area selection modifiers' rather than 'razor edit modifiers'.
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09-08-2020, 10:38 AM
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Thank you for the changes to the arrange and item defaults.Turning off the volume knob helps a lot with item name readability in my projects since I often have a lot of short files. The fades change just makes sense, as I don't really need a fade unless I've actually made a change to an item.
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09-08-2020, 12:19 PM
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Quote:
+ Arrange: allow showing both item handle/knobs, or neither
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I like this. The arrange page now looks cleaner and I don't keep catching the mouse on a volume knob by accident. Thanks
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me too, for the same reason. however, at first, i looked for this feature in the Action List, because i hoped to "toggle volume handles on/off" from Arrange.
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09-08-2020, 12:58 PM
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Accessibility
Regarding accessibility and recent changes to the Media Explorer.
I suffer from a major case of dyslexia and my eyes are very sensitive to color.
Both disabilities makes reading text very difficult. Icons, dark mode and other accessibility features in the Windows Explorer help people like me navigate files.
Here is a list of accessibility features needed in Media Explorer if we are no longer going to have access to the Windows Explorer in reaper.
1) In the Windows Explorer the users can create custom icons for default folders as well as individual folder as show in the images below. Being able to assign custom icons will allow users to search quicker visually instead of having to read the text of the file.
2) The font size and icon size are smaller in the Media Explorer version.
For the sake of others with visual impairments as well as those who suffer from Dyslexia please bring the Explorer back to Reaper. If that's not possible, please help us with the above needs.
Reaper Media Explorer
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09-08-2020, 01:11 PM
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Devs, can we have back the modifiers to move and copy one area?
Why they've been removed? Please bring them back, they were super useful and very nice as a feature.
Now I can't move or copy individual areas to other tracks which is pretty limited.
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09-08-2020, 03:05 PM
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The handle is nice but it isn't useful if it can't cover the same range the knob does.
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09-08-2020, 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercado_Negro
The handle is nice but it isn't useful if it can't cover the same range the knob does.
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Isn't there a modifier you can press to go > 0 dB I seem to remember.
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09-08-2020, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
If the "Actions" and "Customize menus/toolbars" windows are both open and I change the combobox index then both windows redraw much-much slower then v6.13 does, when I try using mousewheel to scroll down a few items its even worse.
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Hmm this is pretty much the same as 6.13 here, but optimizing it.
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09-08-2020, 04:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Hmm this is pretty much the same as 6.13 here, but optimizing it.
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Sorry, I just realized I had filter in 6.13,.. If the Action list is filtered so only a few items are showing in the listview then its fast, otherwise updates pretty slow.
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09-08-2020, 06:15 PM
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Guys Design issue
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09-08-2020, 11:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cool
Guys Design issue
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Not sure it's a mistake... maybe the settings only applies if the earlier one is on?
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09-08-2020, 11:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Triode
+ Arrange: allow showing both item handle/knobs, or neither
I like this. The arrange page now looks cleaner and I don't keep catching the mouse on a volume knob by accident. Thanks
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I'm not fully getting what's new here.
It's that you can now choose to have the volume knob and the volume handle (horizontal line) on/off in any crossed combination on items?
Thanks,
Mario
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09-09-2020, 01:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mabian
I'm not fully getting what's new here.
It's that you can now choose to have the volume knob and the volume handle (horizontal line) on/off in any crossed combination on items?
Thanks,
Mario
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It used to be that if you didn't have the handle you had to have the knob. Now you can have neither (and just use a mouse modifier to change volume)
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09-09-2020, 01:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Triode
It used to be that if you didn't have the handle you had to have the knob. Now you can have neither (and just use a mouse modifier to change volume)
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Thank you, got it.
- Mario
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09-09-2020, 06:28 AM
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I've downloaded the latest version to another computer, using the default settings and all..
still can't see names on midi notes
I probably miss something really basic here
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09-09-2020, 06:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nappies
I want to configure so that I would dragging RS / AS by the edge. But "No action" is broken. And no modifier in Razor edit edge to just drag or copy whole area.Please add a modifier so that you can move / copy with the left button by the edge too.
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Makes sense, but if you set "No action" at "Razor edit edge" all area(with edge) become "dragble" by default. And if you press modifier Ctrl, Alt etc. edge cursor appear and you can edit edge.
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09-09-2020, 08:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mabian
Not sure it's a mistake... maybe the settings only applies if the earlier one is on?
- Mario
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Hmm, make sense. But, by my first impression, it looks like
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09-09-2020, 09:51 AM
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Among the macOS UI issues I’ve reported lately, this auto-view-scroll ghost trail is, let me say, the most annoying, and it's still present.
Apparently on Win as well, not to the same degree as here, but same behaviour [ https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=38]
– happens if using alternate cursor color (blinking), and no cursor_seltrack png in resources.
Would be super to have an indication if it’s recognized as a bug, and perhaps in queue for a fix.
If not, it’s absolutely fine, and I’ll avoid implement this combination.
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09-09-2020, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhelixK
auto-view-scroll ghost trail
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Fixing, thanks for the report.
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09-09-2020, 12:11 PM
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this happens when i clear area while draging
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09-09-2020, 08:46 PM
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It isn't that useful because it only displays BPM when it is an Acid file, but the BPM display in the media explorer has sizing visual issues.
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09-10-2020, 09:40 AM
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The automation item is loaded in the wrong place:
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09-10-2020, 05:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horneusz
The automation item is loaded in the wrong place:
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Maybe by design? If I have a Time Selection set the AI is loaded at the start of TS(isn't that what your gif shows?), otherwise its loaded at edit cursor.(Win10 x64).
If it is by design, I'd expect the AI to auto-stretch/fit the time selection!
Last edited by Edgemeal; 09-10-2020 at 05:17 PM.
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09-10-2020, 06:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cool
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The parent option can be toggled by action, so having the child option always available to configure is useful
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09-11-2020, 12:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
The parent option can be toggled by action, so having the child option always available to configure is useful
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Got it. Thank you!
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09-11-2020, 02:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
Maybe by design? If I have a Time Selection set the AI is loaded at the start of TS(isn't that what your gif shows?), otherwise its loaded at edit cursor.(Win10 x64).
If it is by design, I'd expect the AI to auto-stretch/fit the time selection!
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For me it's logical that AI loads in the place I've chosen, that is where the editing cursor is.
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09-11-2020, 02:49 AM
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small bug in media explorer - files with empty names do not show up
I accidentally just rendered the master mix rather than the item using the wildcard $item and ended up with a blank filename.
I noticed that blank file names do not show up in media explorer at all and had to use file explorer to delete it.
Super small bug but thought I'd mention it
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09-11-2020, 09:40 AM
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Sorry if this has been talking about before but two things I notices right away:
- In the right click menu in the mail toolbar its still called area selection and not razor edits.
- The mouse modifier "Deselect all items" is also clearing razor edit boxes, whish I think it should not do.
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09-12-2020, 03:17 AM
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Razor Edit "No action" bug
There is a bug with Razor Edit left drag, it doesn't respect the "no action" setting. Here I am holding down the assigned modifier CTRL with "No Action" set, and it still moves the whole razor edit area.
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09-12-2020, 04:22 AM
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When opening the MIDI Editor right-click menu by clicking on the area above the piano keys, menu opens below the main arrange menu.
This menu used to open at the mouse cursor.
Last edited by xpander; 09-19-2020 at 10:04 AM.
Reason: removed the issue which is not due these pre-releases
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09-12-2020, 08:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xpander
When opening the MIDI Editor right-click menu by clicking on the area above the piano keys, menu opens below the main arrange menu.
This menu used to open at the mouse cursor.
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I can confirm something similar when working with the Notation Editor in Windows 10 (and Linux, too). When I right-click the clef to change the default clef, key signature, etc. , it doesn´t open the expected menu but rather the main MIDI Editor menu (File, Edit, Navigate, etc.). This is pretty serious, since there seems to be no action to do those kind of tasks, and no menu item anywhere, as far as I can see.
Expected (as working in v6.13) :
Broken (as it happens with dev908) :
I´ll have to revert to v6.13, since this is clearly a showstopper for anyone working with notation...
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09-12-2020, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soli Deo Gloria
I can confirm something similar when working with the Notation Editor in Windows 10 (and Linux, too). When I right-click the clef to change the default clef, key signature, etc. , it doesn´t open the expected menu but rather the main MIDI Editor menu (File, Edit, Navigate, etc.).
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Confirmed. Opens the ME main menu right at the top left corner of the display here. Both this and the piano roll main menu work ok in v6.13+dev0904, so the change is in this dev version.
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09-13-2020, 06:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xpander
Confirmed. Opens the ME main menu right at the top left corner of the display here. Both this and the piano roll main menu work ok in v6.13+dev0904, so the change is in this dev version.
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Confirmed, and on a dual display with the MIDI editor on display 2 the menu opens on the default monitor (though that may be my video card being cranky).
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09-13-2020, 03:01 PM
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I don't know if I'm the only one to complain about it, but the fact that the vertical scroll (with mouse wheel) in the TCP is blocked when the mouse cursor - while scrolling - falls on the new FX buttons (I have mouse wheel disabled on all controls) is quite annoying and a serious usability killer.
Hope something can be done about it.
Thanks,
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09-13-2020, 07:15 PM
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Since there was some changes ( I think it was in some 6.13 dev, but could be 6.12 cant remember ) about the MIDI CC lanes couldn't we type there the CC number ?
instead of going through menus or scrolling I could just type
Last edited by daniellumertz; 09-13-2020 at 08:11 PM.
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