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v6.14rc1 - September 14 2020
  • + ARA: better handling when copying multiple items with different edits that share the same source media [t=237563]
  • + About box: clicking import license key button with license in the clipboard asks to import license
  • + About box: improve UI for license key import
  • + Actions window: enter in current-action keyboard binding list edits selected action
  • + Actions: fix behavior of actions to cut/delete items within time selection with ripple edit enabled
  • + Arrange: allow showing both item handle/knobs, or neither
  • + Audio devices: prevent deadlock when changing samplerate of some audio devices [t=240284]
  • + FX chain: fix keyboard navigation with empty chain
  • + FX: update parameter display in TCP/MCP when changed by plug-in from audio thread
  • + Grid/snap dialog: apply grid snap length setting instantly rather than window close
  • + Help: fix mouse modifier help HTML display [t=241058]
  • + Import: prevent crash after importing multichannel item to multiple tracks
  • + Item defaults: allow disabling default fade-in/fade-out lengths for imported media
  • + JSFX: allow image/gfx window dimensions up to 8192 pixels
  • + MIDI editor: fix update of CC lane labels when changing lane via action [t=240427]
  • + MIDI: allow forcing each device control messages to a particular channel
  • + Menu customization: optimized changing menus when actions window is open [p=2340939]
  • + Mixer panels: option to show sends with FX
  • + Mixer: add option to show TCP FX parameters with the FX inserts
  • + Mixer: improve cursor feedback when drag/dropping FX inserts
  • + Mixer: option to group FX parameters below inserts
  • + Mixer: remove separate FX parameter section project setting
  • + ReaScript: allow image/gfx window dimensions up to 8192 pixels
  • + Region manager: add preference to list markers, regions, and take markers mixed together or separately
  • + Region/marker manager: add take marker support
  • + Render dialog: improve tab order
  • + Render: fix project render metadata being unintentionally deleted [t=240097]
  • + Theme: add new tcp_fxparm_fx_norm/byp/off background images
  • + Theme: fix visual issues with certain track color settings [p=2334327]
  • + Track panels: FX/sends/FX parameters now use scrollbars rather than scroll buttons
  • + Track panels: allow resizing division between FX parameters and embedded FX
  • + Track panels: option to show sends in TCP list
  • + Track panels: optionally show each FX in the FX parameter list
  • + Tracks: allow all even channel counts between 2 and 64
  • + WALTER: extend tcp.fxparm.margin to support 7th field of FX-insert alignment, 8th field inter-column gap
  • + macOS: fix keyboard focus when closing track name edit window
  • + macOS: fix listview column ordering issue when adding columns e.g. in actions window
  • # Actions: minor rewording of actions to enable/disable/toggle trim content behind items when editing
  • # MCP FX: improve appearance of empty slots
  • # MCP FX: improve behavior when clicking empty slot on track with no FX, and no FX inserts shown
  • # MCP extended mixer: When grouping FX parameters, use separate list
  • # Mixer FX context menu: add (customization-aware) FX parameter submenu
  • # Mixer FX inserts/parameters: fix colors
  • # Mixer FX: restore single click in empty slot behavior [p=2313900]
  • # Mixer: fix crash when right clicking empty space [p=2337114]
  • # Mixer: properly report send state via WALTER to theme when using new sends display mode [p=2317926]
  • # Mixer: refine/rename actions and defaults for FX insert/parameter/send grouping (defaults to 6.12 behavior)
  • # Mixer: sends visibility action affects sends when grouped with FX
  • # Region manager: fix display when multiple tracks selected for render [?p=2335063]
  • # Region manager: prevent crash with multiple projects in tabs [p=2332608]
  • # Region/marker manager: don't add new marker if user cancels dialog after double-clicking empty space
  • # Region/marker manager: fix seek on click for take markers
  • # TCP FX parameters: hide when plug-in is offline
  • # TCP FX: fix mousewheel scroll with single row
  • # TCP FXparm: improve context menus
  • # TCP parameters: improve menus
  • # TCPfx: support drag/drop from list
  • # Theme support: add 15 new tcp_sendlist and tcp_master_sendlist images
  • # Track panel lists: improve scrollbar customizability (colors, draw modes, gap size is 7th field of WALTER font def)
  • # Track panel: if viewing sends, force list to be visible even with no sends/FX (to facilitate drag/drop, etc)
  • # WALTER: 8th parameter of list font field is used for scrollbar size
  • # WALTER: add tcp.fxembed
  • # WALTER: add tcp_fxembed scalar for layout decisions
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Old 09-14-2020, 09:51 AM   #2
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do we lose anything from previous dev builds?
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The upcoming 6.14 release won't include any of the recent media explorer or razor edit features.
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Melodyne still won't re-detect algorithms when all clips are selected.

not sure if that was being addressed.

(nope, it wasn't)

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Old 09-14-2020, 10:53 AM   #5
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Finding some severe issues with Melodyne ARA lately if the media playback rate has been altered, ie through a stretch or tempo-change.

ie. with the above conditions, try stretching a blob inside of Melodyne - it freaks out and ruins the blob (static noise), requiring a Delete/ReAdd Melodyne.

Anyone else? I'll make a vid if this is happening to others. Kind of a mess as it could destroy hours of work if you do a tempo change after edits.
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:01 AM   #6
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v6.14rc1 - September 14 2020
  • + ARA: better handling when copying multiple items with different edits that share the same source media [t=237563]
  • + About box: clicking import license key button with license in the clipboard asks to import license
  • + About box: improve UI for license key import
  • + Actions window: enter in current-action keyboard binding list edits selected action
  • + Actions: fix behavior of actions to cut/delete items within time selection with ripple edit enabled
  • + Arrange: allow showing both item handle/knobs, or neither
  • + Audio devices: prevent deadlock when changing samplerate of some audio devices [t=240284]
  • + FX chain: fix keyboard navigation with empty chain
  • + FX: update parameter display in TCP/MCP when changed by plug-in from audio thread
  • + Grid/snap dialog: apply grid snap length setting instantly rather than window close
  • + Help: fix mouse modifier help HTML display [t=241058]
  • + Import: prevent crash after importing multichannel item to multiple tracks
  • + Item defaults: allow disabling default fade-in/fade-out lengths for imported media
  • + JSFX: allow image/gfx window dimensions up to 8192 pixels
  • + MIDI editor: fix update of CC lane labels when changing lane via action [t=240427]
  • + MIDI: allow forcing each device control messages to a particular channel
  • + Menu customization: optimized changing menus when actions window is open [p=2340939]
  • + Mixer panels: option to show sends with FX
  • + Mixer: add option to show TCP FX parameters with the FX inserts
  • + Mixer: improve cursor feedback when drag/dropping FX inserts
  • + Mixer: option to group FX parameters below inserts
  • + Mixer: remove separate FX parameter section project setting
  • + ReaScript: allow image/gfx window dimensions up to 8192 pixels
  • + Region manager: add preference to list markers, regions, and take markers mixed together or separately
  • + Region/marker manager: add take marker support
  • + Render dialog: improve tab order
  • + Render: fix project render metadata being unintentionally deleted [t=240097]
  • + Theme: add new tcp_fxparm_fx_norm/byp/off background images
  • + Theme: fix visual issues with certain track color settings [p=2334327]
  • + Track panels: FX/sends/FX parameters now use scrollbars rather than scroll buttons
  • + Track panels: allow resizing division between FX parameters and embedded FX
  • + Track panels: option to show sends in TCP list
  • + Track panels: optionally show each FX in the FX parameter list
  • + Tracks: allow all even channel counts between 2 and 64
  • + WALTER: extend tcp.fxparm.margin to support 7th field of FX-insert alignment, 8th field inter-column gap
  • + macOS: fix keyboard focus when closing track name edit window
  • + macOS: fix listview column ordering issue when adding columns e.g. in actions window
  • # Actions: minor rewording of actions to enable/disable/toggle trim content behind items when editing
  • # MCP FX: improve appearance of empty slots
  • # MCP FX: improve behavior when clicking empty slot on track with no FX, and no FX inserts shown
  • # MCP extended mixer: When grouping FX parameters, use separate list
  • # Mixer FX context menu: add (customization-aware) FX parameter submenu
  • # Mixer FX inserts/parameters: fix colors
  • # Mixer FX: restore single click in empty slot behavior [p=2313900]
  • # Mixer: fix crash when right clicking empty space [p=2337114]
  • # Mixer: properly report send state via WALTER to theme when using new sends display mode [p=2317926]
  • # Mixer: refine/rename actions and defaults for FX insert/parameter/send grouping (defaults to 6.12 behavior)
  • # Mixer: sends visibility action affects sends when grouped with FX
  • # Region manager: fix display when multiple tracks selected for render [?p=2335063]
  • # Region manager: prevent crash with multiple projects in tabs [p=2332608]
  • # Region/marker manager: don't add new marker if user cancels dialog after double-clicking empty space
  • # Region/marker manager: fix seek on click for take markers
  • # TCP FX parameters: hide when plug-in is offline
  • # TCP FX: fix mousewheel scroll with single row
  • # TCP FXparm: improve context menus
  • # TCP parameters: improve menus
  • # TCPfx: support drag/drop from list
  • # Theme support: add 15 new tcp_sendlist and tcp_master_sendlist images
  • # Track panel lists: improve scrollbar customizability (colors, draw modes, gap size is 7th field of WALTER font def)
  • # Track panel: if viewing sends, force list to be visible even with no sends/FX (to facilitate drag/drop, etc)
  • # WALTER: 8th parameter of list font field is used for scrollbar size
  • # WALTER: add tcp.fxembed
  • # WALTER: add tcp_fxembed scalar for layout decisions
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:01 AM   #7
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Are "Area Selection" now called Razor Edit? Just to know

edit: Nevermind, I figured out myself, had to search through old pre threads and found this in Aug 24 post.
# Area selection: rename to Razor Edit

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Old 09-14-2020, 11:15 AM   #9
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The Notation Editor bug described here is fixed : https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...5&postcount=36



Thanks so much, devs!
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When I run 64-bit 6.14RC1 on Windows 10 (Home Edition), it goes through the splash screen, and then just disappears. No error message, or any indication of what went wrong.

I reverted to 6.13dev0908, and everything runs OK.

I tried installing 6.14RC1 again, and it does the same thing (splash screen, and then disappears).

Here's what the message in the event log says:

Code:
Faulting application name: reaper.exe, version: 64.105.81.83, time stamp: 0x5f5f7bbc
Faulting module name: reaper.exe, version: 64.105.81.83, time stamp: 0x5f5f7bbc
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000000279d2e
Faulting process id: 0x1a94
Faulting application start time: 0x01d68ac2a3260de9
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\REAPER (x64)\reaper.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\REAPER (x64)\reaper.exe
Report Id: e64bd689-462d-4645-bbac-2fe3a1d99f90
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID:
The last thing the splash screen says before it disappears is "Initializing Main Window ..."

It looks like it scans the VSTs before that, so I don't think the problem is with a bad VST.



EDIT #1

It looks like it is something in the "reaper.ini" file. If I load an old one from a few months ago, Reaper runs. I'm going through the two files line by line to see where the problem is, and will post what I find, just in case it bites someone else. I have a feeling I must have enabled some setting that was available in 613dev0908 and was removed from 614rc1, but it could be something else.

EDIT #2:

The bad "reaper.ini" file (the one that worked with 613dev0908) has a line saying:

Code:
toolbar:13=27
The old "reaper.ini" file from a few months ago (that works with 614RC1) has a slightly different line (it says =3 instead of =27):

Code:
toolbar:13=3
There are many many other differences between the two files. But this was the line that was causing 614RC1 to fail. I have no idea what that line means or does, but changing it made 614RC1 start working.

I did do a bunch of toolbar edits and rearranging last week, and I have a feeling that is related to this. But I don't know what the line means/does, and don't know how it got set to a bad value in the file, since everything I did was in the Reaper GUI (I wasn't hacking around in the "reaper.ini" file).

Oh well ... it's working now.
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Old 09-14-2020, 12:06 PM   #11
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What about all the Media Explorer enhancements which are on beta since 6.12 and 6.18dev but which have not been released ? There were some cool stuffs !
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Old 09-14-2020, 12:49 PM   #12
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What about all the Media Explorer enhancements which are on beta since 6.12 and 6.18dev but which have not been released ? There were some cool stuffs !
I guess they're going to be back after the 6.14 release - together with Razor Edit - in the next pre-release version...

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This is still happening with Master Track Panel set to 150% or higher.




The FX text also isn't centered in the Master tcp but maybe I'm missing something here.

It would be nice, if there could also be an option to hide FX, Sends or Parameters on individual tracks or at least the master track without having to resize them to make it look a little cleaner.

Thank you for the updates
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Old 09-14-2020, 01:34 PM   #14
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MIDI Editor right-click main menu opens again at the mouse cursor, thanks for the fix.

Tooltips for the buttons in a floating toolbar still hide under the toolbar. If I place licecap over the toolbar, tooltips show correctly (top part of the picture)? Without licecap, tooltips are under the toolbar.

edit: I apologize, made a classic error of not comparing default installs. Default 6.13 vs. 6.14 is fine in this regard. Still trying to figure out where the settings got messed up...

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Old 09-14-2020, 03:35 PM   #15
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When I run 64-bit 6.14RC1 on Windows 10 (Home Edition), it goes through the splash screen, and then just disappears. No error message, or any indication of what went wrong.

I reverted to 6.13dev0908, and everything runs OK.

I tried installing 6.14RC1 again, and it does the same thing (splash screen, and then disappears).

Here's what the message in the event log says:

Code:
Faulting application name: reaper.exe, version: 64.105.81.83, time stamp: 0x5f5f7bbc
Faulting module name: reaper.exe, version: 64.105.81.83, time stamp: 0x5f5f7bbc
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000000279d2e
Faulting process id: 0x1a94
Faulting application start time: 0x01d68ac2a3260de9
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\REAPER (x64)\reaper.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\REAPER (x64)\reaper.exe
Report Id: e64bd689-462d-4645-bbac-2fe3a1d99f90
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID:
The last thing the splash screen says before it disappears is "Initializing Main Window ..."

It looks like it scans the VSTs before that, so I don't think the problem is with a bad VST.



EDIT #1

It looks like it is something in the "reaper.ini" file. If I load an old one from a few months ago, Reaper runs. I'm going through the two files line by line to see where the problem is, and will post what I find, just in case it bites someone else. I have a feeling I must have enabled some setting that was available in 613dev0908 and was removed from 614rc1, but it could be something else.

EDIT #2:

The bad "reaper.ini" file (the one that worked with 613dev0908) has a line saying:

Code:
toolbar:13=27
The old "reaper.ini" file from a few months ago (that works with 614RC1) has a slightly different line (it says =3 instead of =27):

Code:
toolbar:13=3
There are many many other differences between the two files. But this was the line that was causing 614RC1 to fail. I have no idea what that line means or does, but changing it made 614RC1 start working.

I did do a bunch of toolbar edits and rearranging last week, and I have a feeling that is related to this. But I don't know what the line means/does, and don't know how it got set to a bad value in the file, since everything I did was in the Reaper GUI (I wasn't hacking around in the "reaper.ini" file).

Oh well ... it's working now.
Can you email the bad (crashing) reaper.ini to support at cockos dot com? thanks!
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Old 09-14-2020, 03:43 PM   #16
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Can you email the bad (crashing) reaper.ini to support at cockos dot com? thanks!
Done!

Thanks!

Looking back over this thread, I think this may have been the problem:

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The upcoming 6.14 release won't include any of the recent media explorer or razor edit features.

I had added the Media Explorer Toolbar to one of my floating toolbars. I added it on a whim while I was making other toolbar changes, and hadn't noticed until now that it was an experimental feature. Given that the problem seems to have been related to my recent toolbar changes, I think this is probably the cause.

EDIT:

After fixing the problem, I found that Reaper crashes if I try to recall a windows screenset that contains the floating toolbar with the Media Explorer Toolbar in it. It's easy enough for me to recreate the bad screenset, but I thought you might want to know about that also, in case you can prevent the crash.
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Old 09-14-2020, 07:11 PM   #17
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I've been playing around with the new fx and send lists in the TCP for the past couple weeks. Here's a list of things I would love to see added/changed
  • The option "show sends in TCP" is a little confusing. If I change the themes WALTER to give the send their own list, they will show regardless if whether this option is turned on or off. Either the name of the option should be changed to something like "show sends in TCP fx parameter list" or the function of the option should be changed so that if it's off the list doesn't show.
  • Could there be an option to not show the track numbers of the receiving track on the send list. The name of the receiving track is much more important to see than the number. The number is just taking up space that could be used to display the name. This is especially annoying if the track number is more than 2 digits long:
  • If a track does not have any FX, the empty slots don't show up in the TCP (bottom track in the image below), but as long there's at least one effect the rest of the list will be populated with empty slots (top track in the image below). For the sake of aesthetics, I would prefer to still be able to see the empty slots even if there are no effects on the track, especially since the send list works as I'd expect and show empty slots regardless.
  • I would expect that double clicking a send knob in the TCP list should put that send at unity (the same way that double clicking on the volume or pan controls works), instead it opens the controls for the send in a separate window.
  • I think the context menus for the TCP lists could use some work. If I right click an empty send slot I should be able to assign a send directly from the menu (like I can when I right click the the track routing button).
  • If I right click on an existing send I would like to have access to all parameters (phase, source and destination channels, pre/post fader) right in the menu instead of having to open the send controls in a new window. Right now the only parameter available in the context menu is mute
  • If I right click on an existing FX I would like there to be a menu option for showing the embedded ui for that effect
  • I would love a click modifier for toggling a send between, pre-fx, pre-fader, post-fader, similar to how there are already click modifiers for muting and deleting sends.
  • It would be nice if there was some visual indicator to differentiate between pre and post fader sends in the list, as well as hardware outputs (different colored meters perhaps?)
  • The way that the empty slots light up when I move the mouse over them is such a tease! It makes it feel like I should be able to assign fx and sends to specific slots, but of course this isn't actually possible. Not actually expecting anything to be done about this, just felt like mentioning it.
  • Could there be a way for the header for embedded fx guis in the TCP to display horizontally across the top of the gui (like they do in the MCP) instead of vertically along the left side?
Overall being able to show FX and Sends in the TCP is a killer feature when setup well, but I hope it gets some default love soon, otherwise I think a lot of people (particularly new users, and those who don't follow this section of the forum very closely) might miss out on it entirely. Right now the options to show fx and sends in the TCP are both turned off by default, I would consider changing that. There are also no layouts in the default theme that contain a dedicated send list, or embedded fx area. The way that the size and column arrangement of the list shifts around in the default theme depending on track height and width can be disorienting. It's much easier to work with if each fx/send maintains a consistent vertical position in the list, instead of bouncing around between columns depending on the panel size. I spent hours and hours fumbling around in WALTER so I could get the lists to display in a way I thought looked nice and made sense, but I wouldn't expect most people to have the patience for that.
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Spent a bunch of time on these myself.
  • Yep the sends and inserts enabling on TCP is a bit weird.
    It would be way better if they were split in to upper and lower ala the MCP.
  • Inserts and sends have limited space for sure, have made mine wide on the TCP so it is no bother, but I really really want a track naming panel, full name and short name, depending on insert slot size it would use full or short name, short name would remove the number too and the full name and number would be on a mouseover.
  • You need to turn on show sends when space available to make the slot persistent, again this is pretty weird and goes back to point 1 above.
  • I think the double click is just a forgotten option, double click works in the MCP and the TCP send already supports ctrl/pan and shift/fine, so yeah, suspect it was just missed by mistake.
  • Again this one goes back to the weirdness in point 1 above, if you have show sends when space available enabled, the slots become persistent but are fx slots, so when you right click you get fx menu, but if a send is on the track you can right click that and get routing menu, so as I suggested above, the TCP fx list really needs the option of having the same split as the MPC, but you seem to actually have a split somehow, no idea how you did that hahaha.
  • It is the default send menu, you can put whatever you like in there in the menu editor
  • This is also the default fx menu, you can have that in the menu, it is all in menu editor
  • Yeah an action to put in the right click context would be nice too.
  • 100%
  • That is just the mouseover imagery, you can change it
  • Never even tried embed UI, always looks terrible to me haha

I have mine under the TCP, so they work well for me, but I really would like the sends split and be below the fx inserts, ala the MCP.



Also want to add here that the knob on the sends is pretty useless, it basically just takes up space and limits the movement area, the mouse should just click and move the actual send level indicator bar, I see so many people clicking on the indicator to adjust a send when I am teaching them.
Indicator = Send adjust
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:24 PM   #19
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The knob of a send in TCP doesn't seem to scale right in Default 4 theme.

As a request: Is it possible to have the same dimensions for fx, params and sends as in MCP? This would really make it super handy on small screens and working TCP only.


I'm on mx linux fluxbox, maybe it scales different here, the 2 screenshots above seem to have the same dimensions (TCP and MCP slots)...

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Old 09-15-2020, 08:14 AM   #20
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Default TCP FX

I don't know if it's been discussed yet, but I'll ask.
Is it possible to add hiding of specific Fx in TCP ? I.e. for example on track 4 Fx, and I want to see only two for example in TCP.
Right click on the effect: Hide (hides a specific Fx)
Right click on the insert: Show all




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And a little off-topic:
Please take a look at this - it seems to be a mistake (post 3).
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....20#post2343120
1. Would like a double click to reset the volume of all selected items.
2. Would like the double click not to work on the locked item.
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Old 09-15-2020, 08:47 AM   #21
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This will be added in 6.14 ?
+ FX shortcuts: allow more than 100 actions, use registered action IDs for new shortcuts to improve portability across systems
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Old 09-15-2020, 07:37 PM   #22
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Spent a bunch of time on these myself.
You need to turn on show sends when space available to make the slot persistent, again this is pretty weird and goes back to point 1 above.
This works, but I don't want to have to turn show sends on just to make the slots persistent. I prefer to the sends in a separate list, and turning this option on shows them in the same list as the fx. Empty fx slots should be persistent regardless of how sends are displayed
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the TCP fx list really needs the option of having the same split as the MPC, but you seem to actually have a split somehow, no idea how you did that hahaha.
You can edit the WALTER text in the theme's rtconfig file to create a dedicated send list in the TCP that's separate from the fx list. I'm a theming novice, and this aspect of WALTER is barely documented, so it took a LONG time to figure out how to get this working. Certainly not very straight forward or user friendly. This is part of what I was getting at when I said this feature needs some default love.
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It is the default send menu, you can put whatever you like in there in the menu editor

This is also the default fx menu, you can have that in the menu, it is all in menu editor
Ok, I see now that you can edit these context menus by in the "extended mixer" sections in the menu editor. The name of these sections should probably be updated since it no longer applies to the mixer. Even with the ability to edit these menus, I still can't get all the options I'd like to see in the send slot context menus
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Old 09-17-2020, 04:14 PM   #23
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[*]I would expect that double clicking a send knob in the TCP list should put that send at unity (the same way that double clicking on the volume or pan controls works), instead it opens the controls for the send in a separate window.
hi, how are you getting the fx block to be to the right of your meter in this pic? thx
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hi, how are you getting the fx block to be to the right of your meter in this pic? thx
Again, you can do this by editing the WALTER text in the rtconfig file for the theme you're using.
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Again, you can do this by editing the WALTER text in the rtconfig file for the theme you're using.
great, how? thx
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great, how? thx
The relevant WALTER commands for adjusting the fx and send lists are set.tcp.fxparm, set.tcp.fxparm.font, set tcp.sendlist, and set.tcp.sendlist.font.

Here's the WALTER for my TCP layout if you'd like to look at it. Keep in mind it's specific to the track dimensions and image sizes in the theme I'm using, so I wouldn't expect this to work for everyone else. I should also warn you that I was experimenting and figuring things out as I went, so the code is kind of messy, not well formatted, and includes some notes I left for myself.

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set top_margin [0 8] ;top margin, add this to move the button down
set fx_io_env_H [-40] ;horizontal offset to properly align io and env buttons with fx, add this to align the buttons 
set fx_bypass_offset [-23] ;horizontal for the fx bypass button, add this to keep the bypass button aligned witht the fx button 
set fx_io_env_V [1 23 1 1 1 1 1 1] ;vertical spacer for fx, io, and env buttons, multiply by this to get the buttons vertical position
set phase_offset [-63 -2]
set pan_offset [-140 -2]
set width_offset [-140 7]
set meter_offset [34 -5]
set folder_w  * [0 0 20] - [0 0 maxfolderdepth{0}] [0 0 folderdepth{0}]
set folder_nudge * [20] - maxfolderdepth folderdepth
set folder_meter + [215] * [20] - maxfolderdepth folderdepth
set folder_meter_b + [140] * [20] - maxfolderdepth folderdepth
set squish [0 0 w] + [0 0 folder_nudge{0}]
set fxparm_w  + [297] folder_nudge  
set fx_squish  - [0 0 w] [0 0 fxparm_w{0}] 
set send_w  + [373] folder_nudge
set send_squish - [0 0 w] [0 0 send_w{0}]
set send_move + [w] - [-75] folder_nudge
set mute_w  + [208] folder_nudge
set mute_squish - [0 0 w] [0 0 mute_w{0}]
set solo_w  + [186] folder_nudge 
set solo_squish - [0 0 w] [0 0 solo_w{0}]
set rec_w + [163] folder_nudge 
set rec_squish - [0 0 w] [0 0 rec_w{0}]


clear tcp.*
front tcp.foldercomp
front tcp.fxparm
tcp_folderindent 20


set tcp.size [451 100 1 15]

set tcp.folder  h>28 [0 1 19 96 0 0 0 1] [0 1 19 96 0 0 0 0]
set tcp.fxparm.margin [0 0 0 0]
set tcp.trackidx folderstate<1 h>51 [1 5 15 12 0 0 0 0] [1 43 15 12 0 0.5 0 0.5] 
set tcp.foldercomp h>38 [2 3 15 15 0 0 0 0] [2 1 15 15 0 0 0 0] 
set tcp.trackidx.margin [1 0 0 0 0.5]
set tcp.trackidx.color [235 235 235]

set tcp.label h>51 + [34 8 110 13 0 0 0 0] folder_w   + [34 42 110 13 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_w     
set tcp.label.color [5 5 5]
set tcp.label.margin [2 0 15 0]
set tcp.volume   h>51 h>73     + [22  30 120 13 0 0 0 0] folder_w
set tcp.recarm   h>51 h>73 h>100 [34  79 17  18 0 0 0 0]            [34  52 17 18 0 0 0 0]   [34  29 17 18 0 0 0 0]  h<=51  w>rec_w{0}    + [139  40 17 18 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge  + rec_squish  + [139  40 17 18 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge 
set tcp.phase    h>51 h>73 h>100 [55  78 20  20 0 0 0 0]            [55  51 20 20 0 0 0 0]   [55  28 20 20 0 0 0 0]  ;h>=51 + [424 39 20 20 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge
set tcp.solo     h>51 h>73 h>100 [80 80 22  16 0 0 0 0]             [80  53 22 16 0 0 0 0]   [80  30 22 16 0 0 0 0]  h<=51  w>solo_w{0}   + [157  41 22 16 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge  + solo_squish + [157  41 22 16 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge
set tcp.mute     h>51 h>73 h>100 [107  80 22  16 0 0 0 0]           [107 53 22 16 0 0 0 0]   [107 30 22 16 0 0 0 0]  h<=51  w>mute_w{0}   + [179  41 22 16 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge  + mute_squish + [179  41 22 16 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge
set tcp.recinput h>100         + [51  51 78  17 0 0 0 0] folder_w
set tcp.recmon   h>100           [36  53 13  14 0 0 0 0] 

set tcp.recinput.color  [190 190 190]
set tcp.recinput.margin [7 0 17 0]
 
set tcp.meter w>folder_meter{0} + [210 2 5 94 0 0 0 1] folder_nudge w>folder_meter_b{0}} [445 2 5 94 1 0 1 1] + [135 2 5 94 0 0 0 1] folder_nudge]  [445 2 5 94 1 0 1 1]                                      																				d                       
set tcp.fx                   h>51           h>100  w>folder_meter{0} + [178 8  23 15 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [w 0 w] + [178 8      0  15 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [folder_meter{0} 0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -23]                              w>folder_meter{0} + [178 8  23 15 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [w 0 w] + [178 8  0  15 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [folder_meter{0} 0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -23]                                                                                                                                                                                   w>fxparm_w{0}        +  [268    41     23 15 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge  + fx_squish    +       [268    41     23 15 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge
set tcp.fxbyp                h>51                  w>folder_meter{0} + [-36] [tcp.fx tcp.fx 36 15 0 0 0 0]   - + [0 0 w] + [142 tcp.fx 0  15 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -36]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  w>fxparm_w{0}   + [-36] [tcp.fx tcp.fx 36 15 0 0.5 0 0.5]               + fx_squish    + [-36] [tcp.fx tcp.fx 36 15 0 0.5 0 0.5]             
set tcp.io                   h>51    h>73   h>100  w>folder_meter{0} + [140 31 61 16 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [140 31     0  16 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -61]                              w>folder_meter{0} + [140 31 61 16 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [140 31 0  16 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -61]       !tcp_fxembed [0] w>folder_meter{0} + [140 31 61 16 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [140 31 0   16 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0 0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -61]             w>send_w{0}         +   [304    41     61 16 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge  + send_squish  +       [304    41     61 16 0 0.5 0 0.5] folder_nudge                                                               
set tcp.env                                 h>100  w>folder_meter{0} + [141 54 60 16 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [141 54     0  16 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -60]    !tcp_fxembed	[0]    h>73 w>folder_meter{0} + [141 54 60 16 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [141 54 0  16 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -60] 																																																																																	
set tcp.pan   !tcp_fxembed   h>51   h>73    h>100  w>folder_meter{0} + [154 78 49 8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [154 78     0  8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -49]                              w>folder_meter{0} + [154 54 49 8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [154 54 0  8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -49]                        w>folder_meter{0} + [154 31 49 8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [154 31 0   8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0 0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -49]
set tcp.width !tcp_fxembed   h>51   h>73    h>100  w>folder_meter{0} + [154 87 49 8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [154 87     0  8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -49]                              w>folder_meter{0} + [154 63 49 8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [154 63 0  8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -49]                        w>folder_meter{0} + [154 40 49 8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [154 40 0   8  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0 0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -49] 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
set tcp.fxembed              h>88   h>110   h>137  w>folder_meter{0} + [138 78 71 61 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [138 78     20 61 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -49]                              w>folder_meter{0} + [138 54 71 61 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [138 54 20 61 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0               0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -49]                        w>folder_meter{0} + [138 31 71 61 0 0 0 0] folder_nudge   - + [0 0 w] + [138 31 20 61  0 0 0 0] folder_nudge + [0 0 folder_meter{0}] [0 0 -49]
set tcp.fxembedheader.color [255 255 255 255]
  
set tcp.fxparm   h>51 w>fxparm_w{0} + [222 7 70 90 0 0 0 1] folder_nudge  + fx_squish   + [222 7 70 90 0 0 0 1] folder_nudge   
set tcp.sendlist h>51 w>send_w{0}   + [298 7 70 90 0 0 0 1] folder_nudge  + send_squish + [298 7 70 90 0 0 0 1] folder_nudge  
set tcp.fxparm.font [0 15] ;adjust second coordinate to change fx slot heights
set tcp.fxparm.margin [2 2 0 0]
set tcp.sendlist.font [0 15] ;adjust second coordinate to change fx slot heights
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awesome, thank you!
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This works, but I don't want to have to turn show sends on just to make the slots persistent. I prefer to the sends in a separate list, and turning this option on shows them in the same list as the fx. Empty fx slots should be persistent regardless of how sends are displayed
Yeah sadly that isnt an option, no idea why
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Here's the WALTER for my TCP layout if you'd like to look at it. Keep in mind it's specific to the track dimensions and image sizes in the theme I'm using, so I wouldn't expect this to work for everyone else. I should also warn you that I was experimenting and figuring things out as I went, so the code is kind of messy, not well formatted, and includes some notes I left for myself.
Been waiting for ages for FX and send lists in Reaper and as a workaround was using doppelgangers script for this.

Is there a way to enable FX and/or send lists without having to learn WALTER first? BTW, I'm using a slightly (colour-)modified default-5.0-theme.
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Been waiting for ages for FX and send lists in Reaper and as a workaround was using doppelgangers script for this.

Is there a way to enable FX and/or send lists without having to learn WALTER first? BTW, I'm using a slightly (colour-)modified default-5.0-theme.
I'm on the opposite side... I kind of hate the current implementation because it gets in the way of vertical scrolling in TCP.
Is there a way to hide this new FX (single plugins) buttons section without having to deal with WALTER?

EDIT: found the setting in the "options" menu (I was desperately searching in the preferences...)

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EDIT: found the setting in the "options" menu
Thanks for pointing this out. Found it, too.
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