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09-26-2008, 12:12 PM
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Problems with: Implode as Takes (usless bits of trivia and Haiku)
Currently if one decides to implode items to takes, some odd and unexpected results occur - results that I believe are undesirable.
If you have several short items on a track, that have been rendered to a stem. if you then implode that stem into takes with the smaller items, then the original items lose their original positions and lengths. So this:
Becomes this (where you can see that despite the locking of the original items, these items have lost their positioning). We end up with a single Takes Stack, which I believe is bad:
This occurs using both implode to takes actions.
If the longer item is pre-split in the right places, then implode items across tracks to takes works. It would work better if they imploded to the last selected track, and if the items on the last selected track defaulted to take 1:
But if we attempt the same thing only on one track: implode selected items on one track into takes, the results are bad, even if we pre-split the long ones, and lock others!:
in either of the above cases this, IMHO, is the desired result:
Perhaps some users will say, "No I like it when my item positioning is ignored and things are moved on me and re-sized!" that is why I am proposing that this behaviour - the maintenance of take positioning and order be made dependent on locking items.
So in conclusion I would like to suggest:- If items are locked, their positions should be left in tact and they should become take 1
- If a long item is being imploded to takes on a track with shorter, locked items, the Longer items should be split at logical places to enable the locked shorter items to maintain their positioning.
- This behaviour should be implemented for both implode to takes options
thanks for your time.
greetings
.t
ps. so is this a bug, a feature, a nit pick, a picnic or a bit of all?
Last edited by Tallisman; 10-10-2008 at 10:51 AM.
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09-26-2008, 12:37 PM
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another thought:
If I am dragging an item from the media explorer onto a track with locked and selected items, and if I select import as takes into selected items,
the the drag-n-dropped items should be split accordingly and imported as takes to the previously locked items, at the previously locked items current positions.
If I am dragging several items at the same time, onto a track with selected and locked items; and if I select import as takes, then the new items are split according to the original items and imploded as takes. Where the imported items have portions that do not line up with the original items - they for take stacks too, by them selves. heheh clear as mud
discuss
no
make it so!
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Last edited by Tallisman; 09-26-2008 at 01:09 PM.
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09-28-2008, 07:11 AM
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did you know that most of a hog's sweat glands are in its snout?
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09-29-2008, 10:55 AM
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about three quarters of all raisins are eaten with breakfast.
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Last edited by Tallisman; 10-04-2008 at 06:41 AM.
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10-01-2008, 06:21 PM
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In Cleveland, Ohio it is illegal to catch mice without a hunting license.
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10-03-2008, 09:06 AM
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Ants never sleep.
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10-04-2008, 06:44 AM
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The human brain is 80% water.
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10-05-2008, 11:27 PM
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does your right lung take in more air than your left one?
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Last edited by Tallisman; 10-07-2008 at 12:08 AM.
Reason: answer: yes.
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10-07-2008, 12:05 AM
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a rat is able to live longer without water than a camel.
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10-07-2008, 01:11 AM
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... I'm confused.
Why does a rat need a camel?
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10-08-2008, 10:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
... I'm confused.
Why does a rat need a camel?
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I have no idea.
a very good question.
very good.
I will think about it.
but first, scroll up for a gander!
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Last edited by Tallisman; 10-08-2008 at 04:55 PM.
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10-08-2008, 11:53 PM
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typewriter is the longest english word that can be made on one line of a keyboard
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10-09-2008, 10:06 AM
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This has to be fixed for sure... If items are locked they should preserve their positions... Maybe we just need to fit those audio items to the midi ones but after that they should implode in their positions...
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10-10-2008, 09:01 AM
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What was the very first personal computer?
Choose Your Answer: A: TRS-80, B: Commodore PET, C: Kenbak-1, D: Apple I
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10-10-2008, 11:40 AM
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We have waited so long to reply because the bumps were so informative and educational.
The underlying issue is that takes of a single item must all be the same length (for reasons that are probably clear, but if the reasons are not clear, just have faith because that's the way it is).
So, what do you do when imploding various different length items to takes. Current behavior: force everything to be the maximum length and stack them all. Your wish: intelligently split items to create logical stacks of takes. The latter behavior leads to all sorts of corner cases though. Like, what do you do if you have two items of different lengths that start at different times? Split both items and add silence, creating 3 stacks? Extend both items?
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10-10-2008, 11:53 AM
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Here is some more information.
I was just reading an article about how scientists found a new planet that is 120 light years away that might support life. Think about this:
120 light years would be 720,000,000,000 (720 trillion miles). If you were to drive this in your SUV (assuming you get about 15 MPG) you would need 48,000,000,000 gallons of fuel, and at $4.00 a gallon it would cost you about $192,000,000,000.00. Not to mention, if you drove it at 65 miles an hour it would take you 184,615,385 hours, or about 21 thousand years to get there - that's equal to 263 lifetimes.
Just as an FYI...
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10-10-2008, 03:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
We have waited so long to reply because the bumps were so informative and educational.
The underlying issue is that takes of a single item must all be the same length (for reasons that are probably clear, but if the reasons are not clear, just have faith because that's the way it is).
So, what do you do when imploding various different length items to takes. Current behavior: force everything to be the maximum length and stack them all. Your wish: intelligently split items to create logical stacks of takes. The latter behavior leads to all sorts of corner cases though. Like, what do you do if you have two items of different lengths that start at different times? Split both items and add silence, creating 3 stacks? Extend both items?
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I think that overthinking this problem and or any of the trivia in this thread will lead to meltdown and status quo whihc makes me sad.
simply think of this: longer items get split to the length of the shortest.
In this video you will not that all of the items are imploded onto track 1 which contains 2 short items.
http://shup.com/Shup/70289/mobetter.implode.small.avi
the longest item gets split many times (11), and finds itself take 2 in the two stacks of 4 takes, and take 1 in all the rest.
I believe that if items are locked when implode actions are called, the locked items should be take 1, and the rest of the behaviour should be as illustrated in that video.
greetings
.t
Last edited by Tallisman; 10-10-2008 at 03:25 PM.
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10-10-2008, 05:34 PM
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Swans are the only birds with penises.
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10-10-2008, 05:35 PM
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The only country in the world that has a Bill of Rights for Cows is India.
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10-11-2008, 06:34 PM
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Antarctica is the only continent without reptiles or snakes.
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10-11-2008, 06:44 PM
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It is illegal to sell an ET doll in France. They have a law forbidding the sale of dolls that do not have human faces.
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10-12-2008, 03:00 PM
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despite the size and shape, Uranus it cannot support life
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10-12-2008, 03:30 PM
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If you drop your keys into a pit of molten lava - they're gone forever.
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10-13-2008, 04:15 AM
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pigs can have orgasms that last up to 30 minutes.
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10-13-2008, 12:09 PM
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Uranus is large and round.
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10-13-2008, 12:34 PM
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There are Klingons near Uranus.
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10-13-2008, 06:06 PM
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crap! I though I wiped them buggers out!
I've heard Uranus is gaseous.
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10-13-2008, 07:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oxytoxine
pigs can have orgasms that last up to 30 minutes.
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My girlfriend says I'm a pig yet she always complains...I don't understand women...
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10-13-2008, 08:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallisman
crap! I though I wiped them buggers out!
I've heard Uranus is gaseous.
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Talli - Did you ever try to tell someone a joke, but you were laughing to hard to do it? That just happened.
BAHAHAHAHA!!!
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10-15-2008, 12:00 AM
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Uranus is bigger than a house.
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10-16-2008, 09:41 PM
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come together right
sit tight with friends united
perfect implosion
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10-17-2008, 03:08 PM
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birds of a feather
great minds... fools seldom differ
implode mo'better
please.
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10-17-2008, 05:12 PM
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I realize now that I was too engrossed in the trivia to +1 this. So...
This gets a plus one
A nice feature this would be
I would use it tons
Besides... Uranus is the biggest in the solar system.
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10-17-2008, 05:38 PM
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nice one!
Hey, how do you feel knowing human hands will never touch Uranus?
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10-17-2008, 05:41 PM
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I forgot to mention - I checked out your YouTube vid on Freeze, and saw your video for 3.0.6.
I am not into all rap, just certain songs I like - some Dre, Cube, Snoop, Wu-Tang, Busta....
I really like this song man! Do you have any new ones? Put 'em in the Music forum man - you are talented, and I want more!
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10-17-2008, 08:02 PM
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thanks!
I have some, but since becoming a daddy... I have traded prolific writing ability for writers block.
whereas I used to write several songs a week, I writer a couple a year.
I'll post some stuff soon. I need to finish them up!
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10-17-2008, 08:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallisman
thanks!
I have some, but since becoming a daddy... I have traded prolific writing ability for writers block.
whereas I used to write several songs a week, I writer a couple a year.
I'll post some stuff soon. I need to finish them up!
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Yes - I hear you.
I have 2 boys, and another baby on the way in April.
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10-18-2008, 09:51 AM
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congratulations!
hopefully a baby girl.
I tried thrice no luck.
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10-19-2008, 04:08 PM
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implode like this please:
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10-21-2008, 07:09 AM
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picture many words.
implode. implode mo'better!
love this and love hues.
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