Recording Spotfy Volume Using Windows Loopback But It Clips ?

[daniellumertz]

So, I am recording using Windows Loopback, some songs coming out of spotfy ( for transcribing ).

I would Imagine it would never clip ( only if spotfy allowed to raise the volume over " 100% "). But almost all exemples I tried it cliped somewhere slightly. Of course I can't know how much REAPER just say clipping at 0.0 because it is the max it could get from what is comming in.

So I am wondering if :
Spotfy at max volume plays music clipping?that would make me baffled to know
or
Using the loopback there is some variance in the volume coming in ?



What I do is lower the volume of spotfy so It don't clip then I normalize in REAPER after. ( or just raise a little ) , I am managing to do what I want I just don't understand how it is possible to clip heheh, is it spotfy or loopback?



Spotfy normalize: OFF

[Philbo King]

It's possible you have a feedback loop going between Reaper and your sound card. Try turning off monitoring through Reaper while recording (if you have it on).

It wouldn't be any surprise to me if audio from Spotify has clipped peaks. It would explain a lot about their sound quality... Better than Sirius, worse than MP3.

[daniellumertz]

actually I was not monitoring, to me seems the sound sounds exactly how I hear in spotfy

Hearing in a 6XX and an HS5

Like, I don't really Notice the clipping in spotfy , looking in the wave form in reaper it seems it clipped just a little bit, but clipped.

[Fergler]

A signal will 'clip' if it hits 0db in Reaper but that doesn't introduce any artifacts until it tries to go past 0. As far as spotify quality, it plays back using high quality ogg vorbis files.

[klong]

This may be what is referred to as "intersample peaks" . This can happen to lossy audio formats like mp3 and ogg (like spotify uses), even when the source material never truly exceeds 0db, playback filters that reconstruct the sound can create peaks that are above 0db.

https://www.musictech.net/tutorials/...-sample-peaks/
https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-a...mix-distortion

etc

[daniellumertz]

Originally Posted by Fergler

A signal will 'clip' if it hits 0db in Reaper but that doesn't introduce any artifacts until it tries to go past 0. As far as spotify quality, it plays back using high quality ogg vorbis files.

I am always confused about that.

Of course reaper clip at 0.00000000000000000...1
but
Truly 0.0 will clip also ?


about the lossy ogg and mp3 yeah. Maybe could be that, but then we are constantly hearing clips?