v6.13+dev0812 - August 12 2020

[_Stevie_]

v6.13+dev0812 - August 12 2020

• + Actions: add action to set area selection to selected items
• + Help: fix mouse modifier help HTML display [t=241058]
• # Area selection: don't draw separator lines between vertically adjacent areas
• # Area selection: fix moving single envelope area [p=2330755]
• # Area selection: simplify drawing
  

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[_Stevie_]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

# Area selection: don't draw separator lines between vertically adjacent areas

Weeee!!! Thanks devs!!!

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

+ Actions: add action to set area selection to selected items

This gives a hard crash when executing and no items are selected.
Otherwise brilliant! Can be added to a mouse modifier, too (from the action list).

[Shootkin]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

This gives a hard crash when executing and no items are selected.

Confirmed.

Right click on Item clears Area selection so my context menu commands (Split, Trim etc) unusable.

Creating empty MIDI item by double click does not respect Area selection as with Time selection.

[RobinGShore]

+ Actions: add action to set area selection to selected items

This isn't crashing for me (macOS 10.14.6) , but I do notice that when I run the action, the items remain selected after the area selection is created. Is that intentional? I don't dislike it neccesarily, but it seems inconsistent given that all other methods of creating an area selection instantly clears all item selections

# Area selection: don't draw separator lines between vertically adjacent areas

Thanks! This looks much nicer now.

# Area selection: simplify drawing

What does this mean exactly? Any thing specific we should test?

[_Stevie_]

Originally Posted by RobinGShore

This isn't crashing for me (macOS 10.14.6)...

Then it might be exclussive to Windows.

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

v6.13+dev0812 - August 12 2020
[list][*]+ Actions: add action to set area selection to selected items
[*]# Area selection: don't draw separator lines between vertically adjacent areas

thanks!

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

v6.13+dev0812 - August 12 2020
[*]# Area selection: fix moving single envelope area [p=2330755]

Working great! Amazing and very useful, thanks!

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

Weeee!!! Thanks devs!!!

This gives a hard crash when executing and no items are selected.

No crash here (WIN), executing with double click

[_Stevie_]

Using it as mouse modifier? That's normal, because the mouse modifier will select the item.

Steps to repro:

- have no items selected
- run the action from the action list

[schwa]

It does crash with no media items selected, we'll fix that for the next build.

[Edgemeal]

Remove one area selection is removing wrong area.



Win10 x64

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

Using it as mouse modifier? That's normal, because the mouse modifier will select the item.

Steps to repro:

- have no items selected
- run the action from the action list

You're right, i tested as mouse modifier. Just tested to execute the action from the actions list and it crashed here as well.

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

Remove one area selection is removing wrong area.



Win10 x64

Confirmed but only when the action move points with media items is on. If it's off it removes the correct area.

[schwa]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

Remove one area selection is removing wrong area.

Ah... that behavior's not correct, but I think the behavior you expect isn't correct either. You have "move envelope points with media items" enabled, so it's not possible to deselect one envelope area while the media lane area remains selected.

[Edgemeal]

Originally Posted by schwa

Ah... that behavior's not correct, but I think the behavior you expect isn't correct either. You have "move envelope points with media items" enabled, so it's not possible to deselect one envelope area while the media lane area remains selected.

Thanks for the clarification!

[EvilDragon]

After working some time with AS as they are now... I really really hope there will be a "ghost" mode, so that moving AS is overlaid over existing arrange state and only updated to final state after releasing the mouse.


Sexan could do it, I'm sure J&S can, too

[schwa]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

After working some time with AS as they are now... I really really hope there will be a "ghost" mode, so that moving AS is overlaid over existing arrange state and only updated to final state after releasing the mouse.

That's not planned.

[EvilDragon]

Ha, ok. Maybe sometime down the road?


Anyways yeah, can confirm the crashes here as above. I can get another crash when: executing AS to items on a single item, then deselect the item (AS still exists), then run that action again on the same item. It's probably the same crash as already reported...


Also, if I assign the new action to set AS to items, to media item shift+double-click, oftentimes I get time selection created as well. Seems quite sensitive to creating the time selection unless I'm really REALLY steady on the mouse and focused on not moving the cursor. Anyone else can confirm? I can send my mouse modifier setup if required.

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Also, if I assign the new action to set AS to items, to media item shift+double-click, oftentimes I get time selection created as well. Seems quite sensitive to creating the time selection unless I'm really REALLY steady on the mouse and focused on not moving the cursor. Anyone else can confirm? I can send my mouse modifier setup if required.

I tried a couple of times but i didn't see time selection.
I had a crash though with double click when i press left click repeatedly more than two times on the selected item.
If i double click on empty track without selected items i don't get a crash.

[_Stevie_]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

+ Actions: add action to set area selection to selected items

I just tried the feature a bit more indepth.
A small request: would it be possible to add a selection instead of clearing the current AS?

Practical example in the GIF:

- I select the shorter items on the bottom
- additionally, I want to add the bigger item on top, with a single action / mouse modifier

But the previous AS gets cleared.

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

I just tried the feature a bit more indepth.
A small request: would it be possible to add a selection instead of clearing the current AS?

Agree would be nice, maybe another action "add to selection"?
Also an action to extend the selection vertically and horizontally would be very useful when we want to select a big part on the arrange fast, without scrolling and dragging from the edges.

[EvilDragon]

Agreed with Stevie, I would use that so much.

[_Stevie_]

Originally Posted by Vagelis

Also an action to extend the selection vertically and horizontally would be very useful when we want to select a big part on the arrange fast, without scrolling and dragging from the edges.

You mean something like this?

[Vagelis]

Stevie i meant something like this.

The selection is extended fast to the mouse position where i left click. Both horizontally or vertically. You can replicate the same way in your gif, by first extending the selection vertically and then drag AS from the edge.

[EvilDragon]

Basically clicking first time sets x1, y1, clicking second time sets x2, y2 and you have your rectangle.

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Basically clicking first time sets x1, y1, clicking second time sets x2, y2 and you have your rectangle.

Yes, create an area first and then extend the edges to the mouse position.
It's very very useful if you want to select a big part vertically/horizontally to edit, especially when you zoom out, or when you don't want to drag for a long time

[EvilDragon]

Yes, it's great if anyone suffers from CTS or RSI. Dragging the mouse for a long time is tiring. Being able to do an AS in two consecutive mouse clicks would be a boon.

[deeb]

Originally Posted by Vagelis

Stevie i meant something like this.

The selection is extended fast to the mouse position where i left click. Both horizontally or vertically. You can replicate the same way in your gif, by first extending the selection vertically and then drag AS from the edge.

Thanks for bringing this. Yes yes !

[deeb]

Originally Posted by schwa

That's not planned.

Maybe reconsider ? It's much more elegant and it will stay forever!

[_Stevie_]

Originally Posted by Vagelis

Stevie i meant something like this.

The selection is extended fast to the mouse position where i left click. Both horizontally or vertically. You can replicate the same way in your gif, by first extending the selection vertically and then drag AS from the edge.

Yeah that’s definitely also a good feature request.

[vitalker]

v6.13+dev0812a - August 12 2020

• + Area selection: add media item click mouse modifiers to create or add to area selection
• # Area selection: fix action to set area selection to items

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by vitalker

v6.12+dev0812a - August 12 2020

I'm sorry, but what is the problem with naming convention? Why in some versions it shows 6.12 and in others 6.13? It is confusing.

[schwa]

That's just a typo in the changelog. I just corrected it.

[nappies]

Thanks for great update! Especially for
+ Actions: add action to set area selection to selected items

Maybe time to select items with AS. To do some extra stuff?

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by schwa

That's just a typo in the changelog. I just corrected it.

It happens not for the first time. Are you name it manually? I thought you have it automated!

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by nappies

Thanks for great update! Especially for
+ Actions: add action to set area selection to selected items

Maybe time to select items with AS. To do some extra stuff?

Makes sense.

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by vitalker

v6.13+dev0812a - August 12 2020

• + Area selection: add media item click mouse modifiers to create or add to area selection

Thanks! is this a bug? When i 'm trying to add the left part to selection it doesn't add it properly.
Also except adding to selection, can we have another modifier to extend the selection as shown in my gif? Like extending AS edges vertically/horizontally by left clicking to the mouse position.(without changing length if an item is longer than the previous selected, which is very useful if you want to delete a part on the arrange for example from top to the bottom,or a a number of beats horizontally)

Originally Posted by vitalker

v6.13+dev0812a - August 12 2020[*]# Area selection: fix action to set area selection to items[/list]

Also no more crashes here

[Vagelis]

Bug? Something'w wrong when a shorter item is added to selection



Can't add items to the left of the selection, from left to right works better

[_Stevie_]

The devs are on fire. Thank you so much!

Originally Posted by Vagelis

Also except adding to selection, can we have another modifier to extend the selection as shown in my gif? Like extending AS edges vertically/horizontally by left clicking to the mouse position.

Yes, I second that! Sorry for requesting so much, but all these things truly come from user experience.
And AS will definitely be lit with all these additions.

[Win Conway]

The docker tab and width bug that was introduced is still there, seems to be at certain sizes.

[RobinGShore]

The extend area selection modifier does not work the way I would expect when there isn't an already existing area selection. I would expect it to create a new selection that extends from the edit cursor to the far edge of the item that I click on (similar to using"extend time selection" when no time selection exists). Instead it makes a selection that encompasses only the item, but not the area between item and cursor.

Also, extend area selection should be available in the track left click modifiers as well. No reason for it to only work on items.