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v6.12+dev0710 - July 10 2020
v6.12+dev0710 - July 10 2020
- + Area selection: when "move envelope points with items" enabled, hidden envelopes are included in area selections
- + Media explorer: add action to delete files immediately (no confirmation/trash/recycle)
- + Media explorer: add actions to go to shortcuts
- + Media explorer: automatically update filesystem folder view when folder contents change
- + Media explorer: group by folder when sorting by date
- + Media explorer: show all controls at all widths
- + Media explorer: show file type and reaper document icon for automation items
- + Media explorer: support browsing to file enclosing folder in database or search results [p=2315990]
- + Project encoding: better corner case handling of strings with newlines/carriage returns
- + Render/recording: add $folders wildcard, to create directory structure based on track folders
- # Area selection: fix snapping area selection marquee with grid disabled
- # MIDI CC selectors: fix hit test region
- # Media explorer: fix rewriting metadata for media files on external filesystems [p=2316216]
This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.
Changelog - Pre-Releases
Generated by X-Raym's REAPER ChangeLog to BBCode
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Originally Posted by mabian
v6.12+dev0710 - July 10 2020
+ Area selection: when "move envelope points with items" enabled, hidden envelopes are included in area selections
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Great!
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07-10-2020, 12:33 PM
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# MIDI CC selectors: fix hit test region
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It's great now, thanks!
Minor nitpick, the [+] button is 1 px higher than the bottom of the dropdown menu, aligning this by moving the [+] button lower 1 px would seal the deal!
Before:
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1. Align the left edge of the menu to the left edge of piano roll keyboard.
2. Align the [+] button with the bottom of the CC lane selector
3. Align the [-] button with the top of the CC lane selector
4. While at it, maybe also make the [+]/[-] buttons slightly larger?
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07-10-2020, 12:38 PM
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Bug - the path line still being hidden when the window is narrow.
This looks like the first step in the right direction. There is still a lot of work to do there (neat alignment, no space wasted, easy to navigate and control at quick look, all of it at all sizes of the ME window).
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07-10-2020, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mabian
v6.12+dev0710 - July 10 2020
+ Area selection: when "move envelope points with items" enabled, hidden envelopes are included in area selections
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Perfect!
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07-10-2020, 12:39 PM
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+ Area selection: when "move envelope points with items" enabled, hidden envelopes are included in area selections
Thanks, it works great for me.
There are a few bugs:
If you simply copy the item by dragging to an empty space, the Reaper itself creates a new track with envelopes. If you try to do this with SA, Reaper refuses to create a new track. We create a new track and copy, then move the item, the envelope is not visible and the Reaper refuses to show them. Move the cursor to the top track and the Reaper shows the envelopes, but they are not under the item.
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07-10-2020, 01:14 PM
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Thanks devs! Will try this lot all out when time
Some awesome stuff in that change list! Woo hoo!
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07-10-2020, 01:33 PM
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# Area selection: fix snapping area selection marquee with grid disabled
Thanks. This now works for markers and regions but not yet for item starts or ends which the time selection does. (although it does snap when adjusting edges.)
Even if we have to tick an option on this would be very very useful to have for people who don't use beats and bars most of the time.
But.. I can see that this could cause issues with using area selection for music if not all the items go to the end of the bar for instance.
That's why it should be a snap setting
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07-10-2020, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimson
We create a new track and copy, then move the item, the envelope is not visible and the Reaper refuses to show them.
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Hmm, there are several weirdnesses around moving areas across tracks with hidden envelopes. Working on sorting those out for the next build.
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07-10-2020, 02:14 PM
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AS Bug
i want to move a selection, then i change one of the selected envelopes while AS is on, but then when i move the area it moves the previous envelope and not the one i just changed. (Probably happens when the one of the envelopes at start match from track to track, then i change to non matching envelopes in both tracks)
And that's why maybe should consider moving from track to track non matching envelopes. Because now when the action move points with items is on this happens.
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07-10-2020, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagelis
i want to move a selection, then i change one of the selected envelopes while AS is on, but then when i move the area it moves the previous envelope and not the one i just changed.
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+ Area selection: when "move envelope points with items" enabled, hidden envelopes are included in area selections
It doesn't matter that you changed which envelopes were visible on track 2. When "move envelope points with items" is enabled, area selection edits are no longer WYSIWYG, and all envelopes will move along with media item areas.
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07-10-2020, 02:31 PM
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Why is it possible to leave only envelope lanes, but not only items?
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07-10-2020, 02:32 PM
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Hi Schwa,
I'm not quite sure how to use this one but happy to have more options. I'll try somethings out but any further info would be good thanks!
$folders[X] : folder structure, separated by X
Does it replace being able to put "/" in the track name?
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07-10-2020, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vitalker
Why is it possible to leave only envelope lanes, but not only items?
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With "envelope points move with media items" enabled, the visual feedback is showing you that those envelopes will always move with the area selection. When it's enabled, you can move envelopes without media items, but you can't move media items without envelopes.
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07-10-2020, 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
+ Area selection: when "move envelope points with items" enabled, hidden envelopes are included in area selections
It doesn't matter that you changed which envelopes were visible on track 2. When "move envelope points with items" is enabled, area selection edits are no longer WYSIWYG, and all envelopes will move along with media item areas.
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Hmmm doesn't seem useful to me with this situation and might be confusing sometimes?
Also I was expecting AS to give more freedom like moving envelopes with items to another track with non matching envelopes and also even without the action move points with items on.. Imho AS should allow to edit anything that's inside the box.
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07-10-2020, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by musicbynumbers
$folders[X] : folder structure, separated by X
Does it replace being able to put "/" in the track name?
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You can still put "/" in the track name. What this does if you have a "drums" folder, then a "cymbals" subfolder, then a "hat" track, if you render (or record on) the hat track with "$folders/$track" as the wildcard, REAPER will automatically create a "drums" folder with a "cymbals" subfolder and record a file called "hat" in that subfolder.
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07-10-2020, 02:39 PM
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You can still put "/" in the track name. What this does if you have a "drums" folder, then a "cymbals" subfolder, then a "hat" track, if you render (or record on) the hat track with "$folders/$track" as the wildcard, REAPER will automatically create a "drums" folder with a "cymbals" subfolder and record a file called "hat" in that subfolder.
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Thanks! I was literally just trying that now and funny enough, the item I selected was "hats" and dragged it to the cymbal sub track so was helpful to be currently looking at the exact same thing you just explained!
Just working through it and trying to break it now, will let you know if I manage it too lol.
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07-10-2020, 02:42 PM
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Actually, I'm still not sure what the secondary folder option we have does?
"$folders[X]"
What does the X represent? I tried replacing it in render window and it seems to allow a separator when it's used without the "/" before it. So you can put an "-" or "_" in between the folder track names right?
If that's what it's meant to do, then that's useful thanks!
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07-10-2020, 02:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
With "envelope points move with media items" enabled, the visual feedback is showing you that those envelopes will always move with the area selection. When it's enabled, you can move envelopes without media items, but you can't move media items without envelopes.
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Thank you for the clarification.
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07-10-2020, 02:59 PM
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About moving hidden envelopes with AS, i mean, still we don't have to change the envelope lane to see the parameter that we moved/pasted? Why not doing it from before and paste what we see in AS to the target envelopes we want to avoid confusion as shown below?
EDIT:I like the fact of having an action to move hidden envelopes but not as the basic function of AS. More as something extra, because as a basic function i would prefer to be able and move items with envelopes almost anywhere, with the criteria of matching the number of env. lanes from source and target tracks and not their parameters.
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07-10-2020, 04:01 PM
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Hi Schwa,
Some new feedback on recording into folders
https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...94&postcount=9
It's getting there thanks! Trying other things out too format wise
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07-10-2020, 04:12 PM
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Points around edges are being lost, both at the source and destination.
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07-10-2020, 04:25 PM
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+ Media explorer: add actions to go to shortcuts
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Useful would also be (+suggested default shortcuts):
Focus shortcuts (shift+1)
Focus browser (shift+2)
Focus search box (ctrl+f)
Select first file in directory (Home)
Select last file in directory (this does somehow work with the END key)
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07-10-2020, 04:27 PM
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+ Media explorer: support browsing to file enclosing folder in database or search results
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Needs an action. And maybe clear the search field on calling this action?
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Originally Posted by bFooz
Points around edges are being lost, both at the source and destination.
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That's very strange and I can't reproduce it. It's behaving as if the media item is larger than it actually is -- points disappear on either side when the edit begins. This behavior must depend on a specific setting.
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07-10-2020, 04:53 PM
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That's very strange and I can't reproduce it. It's behaving as if the media item is larger than it actually is -- points disappear on either side when the edit begins. This behavior must depend on a specific setting.
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I've made a clean install now and can't reproduce it either.
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I'm definitely pushing this new ability to create folders on recording to the limits and it's awesome so far!
It would be great if $region could be an option too for foldering.
That way we could add folders based on what the lowest level region was called under the playhead at the time the recording was started.
I'd love to organise and have recordings automatically grouped into folders like "verse1" or "Chorus1" for example as well as the other stuff below (which works great now).
/$regions/$folders/$recpass/$track/$parent_$track_$recpass
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07-10-2020, 06:51 PM
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Why is it possible to leave only envelope lanes, but not only items?
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Also a BUG ( I think ) that is shown in this gif is that sometimes the items have this green border after being in a AS.
To reproduce : 1 select item 2 AS over item 3 get rid of AS
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07-10-2020, 07:17 PM
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Also a BUG ( I think ) that is shown in this gif is that sometimes the items have this green border after being in a AS.
To reproduce : 1 select item 2 AS over item 3 get rid of AS
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I have definitely noticed this too.
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Advise about searching in ME
When I'm searching in a database, then I click another shortcut, the result lost. That's a little inconvenient. It would be better when I go to another shortcut, I can restore the last searching result, including the last touched file.
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07-10-2020, 07:47 PM
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Just like Preferences--Mouse--Ignore mousewheel on track panel faders, it need the same option in Media Explorer: Ignore mousewheel on Media Explorer faders(or faders + droplist), to prevent misoperation.
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07-10-2020, 09:26 PM
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Perfect!
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yes ! it's good ! tried the implementation and i like it too! thank you
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Media explorer: add actions to go to shortcuts
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These kind of work, you can run them, but you can't assign them to toolbar buttons, it just creates an invisible button that doesn't work
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Media explorer: show all controls at all widths
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1366x768
All the text below the waveform, name, playrate etc is all cut off, would it be better to put that on the waveform itself ?
Also the start on bar text is cut off, but you can still access the tickbox
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This uses the standard waveform icon, is that right ?
FYI the docker tab still switches from horizontal (Bottom) to vertical (left) at the media explorers thinnest position.
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07-10-2020, 11:33 PM
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Area selection:
Is it possible to disable trim somehow?
It can also be made dependent on " Trim content behind media items when editing" or a separate action to do this.
What do you think about this?
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Strange glitch (Cross? ) on the repeat button on media explorer.
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If you open and close Media explorer , the view is not restored and the mixer remains slightly extended, and if you touch the width of Media explorer , the mixer is not restored at all. Is this fixable or not?
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Is it possible to disable cropping somehow?
It can also be made dependent on " Trim content behind media items when editing" or a separate action to do this.
What do you think about this?
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I agree that moving/copy in AS should follow the general config for moving/copy normally. Free item position and lane Items should work with AS.
I imagine it is in the TODO of devs, just too much to do at once
It is already a great tool, thanks :!
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07-11-2020, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by daniellumertz
I agree that moving/copy in AS should follow the general config for moving/copy normally. Free item position and lane Items should work with AS.
I imagine it is in the TODO of devs, just too much to do at once
It is already a great tool, thanks :!
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i'll add to that: ability to have partial pooled AI and pooled Items
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How do you mean "partially pooled"? It's either pooled or not pooled.
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07-11-2020, 01:28 AM
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How do you mean "partially pooled"? It's either pooled or not pooled.
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Ok yeah not the right term ability when splitting an item or an ai to maintain its pooled status but according to its starting offset and length.
In a different terminoly , an item A is duplicated and pooled copied in B. Then B is splitted becomming B1 and B2 , both are still pooled copies of A, so when changing A those changes happen in B1 and B2. And vice versa, when changing B1 or B2 this changes happen also in A, since all of them are pooled copies - just different offsets
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