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03-29-2020, 02:08 AM
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8D Audio: natively possible in Reaper ?
Hi 2 all,
8D Audio seems getting a hot topic.
I am having interest in this.
Anyone knows if it is natively possible in Reaper to create (true) 8D audio ?
And howto then exactly ?
I understand that 8D Audio is especially a soundfield "protocol" desgined to be listened to on headphones.
I hope i am correct in this.
Thx for helping me !
Last edited by vanhaze; 03-29-2020 at 02:55 AM.
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03-29-2020, 02:33 AM
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Hey VanHaze,
I wasn't aware of the 8D craze - thanks for the heads up. Its fun to see what folks are doing with these tools, and even more fun to see how listeners resonate with the art.
There is no such thing as "true" 8D audio, as this appears to just be a movement or trend as opposed any new tech. From my ears it sounds like some ambisonic, binaural and modulation love coupled with some nice reverberators to generate the immersive sound field to spin things through whilst allowing the reflections to create the space.
There are heaps of immersive tools out there. Some of my faves are the tools from IRCAM, call Spat, which run in Max MSP, and can then be tooled for Ableton Live. They are a free set of immensely deep tools created by french wizards / witches.
For Reaper there is the ATK,
http://www.ambisonictoolkit.net/documentation/reaper/
have fun.
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03-29-2020, 02:41 AM
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Hmmm, since "true 8D" is only "false binaural", you can do it with whatever you whish, from silly 2D autopans with reverb automations to regular surround effecs, of course with the "final touch" of hrtf processing.
There enough free tools at disposal !
The only request would be to do it with taste ?... but this is another matter, which seems to be far from the main characteristic of "8D" ;-)
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03-29-2020, 02:49 AM
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Many thx for your help guys !
@tdc: i am gonna dive into ATK, seems really interesting.
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03-29-2020, 02:57 AM
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Someone just came up with the idea to call binaural panning 8D and applied it to I don't know what and all of the sudden it went viral as people thought 8D is some revolutionary technology (because well.. "8D" sounds like a cool buzz word, don't know how they came up with the number 8 tough..)
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03-29-2020, 03:12 AM
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Aha, i didn't know that, good info 🙏🏼THX.
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03-29-2020, 03:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
Many thx for your help guys !
@tdc: i am gonna dive into ATK, seems really interesting.
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Be careful VanHaze... Immersive Audio is a deep well :-)
I have been working in with immersive for quite a while in live music production and last year I decided to take the leap and set up a 32ch immersive mix system in my studio. Has been an amazing journey of learning and then applying that to projects.
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03-29-2020, 03:49 AM
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Ok, gotcha !
For now, "only" want to experience it on headphones.
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03-29-2020, 04:03 AM
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Anyway, while I have only limited experience in the field, I know Reaper with its 64 channels and flexible routing is also in the immersive audio / multichannel department one of the best DAWs one can have (and multichannel can also just be 64 encoded virtual channels decoded on stereo output). Other DAWs up their price tag significantly for offering multichannel versions of their product, so if you feel like dabbling with sound spatialisation, Reaper is a supreme environment to just try it out without extra expenses!
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03-29-2020, 09:10 AM
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Another re-brand of the good old binaural audio. Sigh...
8D Audio
Dolby Atmos
3D Audio
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03-31-2020, 06:34 PM
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Just found this and thought of you VanHaze. Hope your Spanish is good (use the live translations if you need)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsBSPyAJHP4
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03-31-2020, 11:25 PM
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Check out IEM's ambisonic plug-in suite.
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twitch.tv/suprshady trying to stream REAPER stuff.. more than twice a year
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