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07-11-2020, 02:47 PM
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v6.12+dev0711 - July 11 2020
v6.12+dev0711 - July 11 2020
- + Mixer panels: option to show sends with FX
- + Sends: improve performance when deleting sends that have UI open
- + Track panels: option to show sends in TCP list
- # Area selection: clear selection when changing track selection
- # Area selection: fix various weirdnesses around hidden envelopes
- # Area selection: only auto-add tracks when moving envelope points with media items
- # Media explorer: support copy/pasting files to their original directory
- # Mixer: refine/rename actions and defaults for FX insert/parameter/send grouping (defaults to 6.12 behavior)
- # TCP FX parameters: hide when plug-in is offline
- # WALTER: add tcp.fxembed
- # WALTER: add tcp_fxembed scalar for layout decisions
This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.
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07-11-2020, 02:50 PM
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Not listed in the changelog, but also included: WALTER item for "tcp.sendlist" to let a theme configure a discrete list of sends in the TCP, if desired.
Last edited by Justin; 07-11-2020 at 03:16 PM.
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07-11-2020, 03:10 PM
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I had no time last days to work with computer but I wonder if Area Selection can now delete/ manipulate Automation Items which are displayed in track lane instead automation lance bacause in first builds it was not possible yet. Thanks anybody who can inform.
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07-11-2020, 03:42 PM
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show sends bug
sends show always
right side sends from theme
left from context
Last edited by SNJUK2; 07-11-2020 at 04:14 PM.
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07-11-2020, 03:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
v6.12+dev0711 - July 11 2020[*]# Area selection: clear selection when changing track
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Is this set to be switchable in a settings menu, or always on?
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07-11-2020, 04:52 PM
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Found a bug when stretching area selections where the start and end points of the envelope have different values:
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07-11-2020, 05:21 PM
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+ Track panels: option to show sends in TCP list
Super useful thanks!
-I love the ability for pre/post FX sends to be actually shown where they are now. It might be good to have some kind of subtle indicator if the send is also post fader (as well as post FX). Maybe a highlight around the box or something?
-I get a lot of mouse flickering when click/drag adjusting params/sends values in the TCP and MCP now when I didn't previously. (This is on windows 10 win 64)
-Lastly.. This might be a "can of worms" but..
What about showing track Receives too in TCP and MCP?
They are often more useful for things like reverb returns than the individual sends anyway.
I know we have it in the pop up IO window but might be good to see it in the mixer etc too
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07-11-2020, 05:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SNJUK2
show sends bug
sends show always
right side sends from theme
left from context
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Edit: ah, I think we're not reporting the state properly to WALTER, fixing, thanks!
Last edited by Justin; 07-11-2020 at 05:56 PM.
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07-11-2020, 06:10 PM
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+ Track panels: option to show sends in TCP list
Agreed, this is a great addition - hopefully it arrives in a release version at some point! (along with 'show fx inserts in tcp').
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07-11-2020, 06:18 PM
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Hi !
IS it possible to display "sends" inside the FX windows, too ?
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07-11-2020, 06:23 PM
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+ Track panels: option to show sends in TCP list
wooo, thanks!!
next reaper blog about this update will be like 30~40 minutes long ???
just kidding, so many great add at once hehe
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07-11-2020, 06:48 PM
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Using it is a bit laggy
+ Track panels: option to show sends in TCP list
My pc should be fine for that hahah : i5-8400 32gb of ram ssd....
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07-11-2020, 10:47 PM
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Additional to my previous report about the new favourites actions not being added to toolbars correctly, tested again on this version and noticed more strange behaviour, the wrong actions being registered to toolbars, see gif
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07-11-2020, 11:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
[*]# WALTER: add tcp.fxembed[*]# WALTER: add tcp_fxembed scalar for layout decisions
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Anybody have any idea what to do with these ?
I tried set tcp.fxembed with the usual parameters, nothing at all appeared.
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07-11-2020, 11:22 PM
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ASKING MYSELF:
if the, +Track panels options might someday show even just whether the WET/DRY effects knob had been changed from 100% wet (default) to, less the 100% wet.
Maybe a red dot for, "has been changed to less than 100% wet" and a green dot for "unchanged and still 100% wet".
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-- If changing WET/DRY Effect knob setting, it's easily forgotten as out of view.
-- AND, adding the WET/DRY FX knob via PARAM/"Show in track controls" for every track is laborious and still can't be seen in minimized tracks.
NOTE: I am totally cringing to think this off topic and inappropriate. I believed, or (heh-heh) imagined I saw a somewhat related comment above... then i gulped... and then decided to post this. SORRY !! (you're most all-my-Guru^s)
Last edited by tweed; 07-11-2020 at 11:41 PM.
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07-12-2020, 02:39 AM
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Thanks a lot for the TCP sends!
What I miss now the most is to be able and collapse(show/hide) TCP parameters per fx.
Thanks in advance!
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07-12-2020, 03:13 AM
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media explorer file bpm
can round a value to an integer
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07-12-2020, 03:38 AM
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Quote:
# Area selection: clear selection when changing track selection
# Area selection: fix various weirdnesses around hidden envelopes
# Area selection: only auto-add tracks when moving envelope points with media items
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Those bugs I wrote about have been corrected. Thanks.
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07-12-2020, 04:30 AM
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Hello,
When we click on the send in TCP, we have this action:
"Go to send destination track".
Could you add "Show the FX window of the send destination track", please ?
Last edited by ovnis; 07-12-2020 at 04:43 AM.
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07-12-2020, 04:48 AM
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Could area selection also have the ability to snap to the start and end of the loop/cycle too.
These (item start and end too) are all things that are used a lot in film and game sound so although these can cause issues with music (when snapping to only beats and bars), options in the snap grid for this would help a lot.
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07-12-2020, 07:00 AM
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<<+ Mixer panels: option to show sends with FX>>
could someone show/explain what this is? thx
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07-12-2020, 07:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d. gauss
<<+ Mixer panels: option to show sends with FX>>
could someone show/explain what this is? thx
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Maybe both in one block together instead of each in its separate block (FX inserts / Sends)?
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07-12-2020, 07:51 AM
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Trying to track down some of the graphics glitches I have been getting, some of them are caused by gen_knob_bg_small.png being rendered underneath knobstacks, you can clearly see them here because the knobstacks are semi transparent.
I think this started at about 6.10 but I have only just tracked down what is causing it, sorry.
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07-12-2020, 08:02 AM
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Please add autocrossfades when split by Area Selection.
Thanks.
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07-12-2020, 09:05 AM
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Can embedded plugins in mcp go 1 pixel to the right side to centralise it?
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07-12-2020, 09:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akademie
Maybe both in one block together instead of each in its separate block (FX inserts / Sends)?
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Indeed. And also shows whether sends are pre or post fx.
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07-12-2020, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musicbynumbers
Indeed. And also shows whether sends are pre or post fx.
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not seeing that here. still two seperate blocks. where is the option switch?
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07-12-2020, 11:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gpunk_w
Additional to my previous report about the new favourites actions not being added to toolbars correctly, tested again on this version and noticed more strange behaviour, the wrong actions being registered to toolbars
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Media explorer actions in toolbars have actually never been supported. But we're adding it for the next build.
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07-12-2020, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d. gauss
not seeing that here. still two seperate blocks. where is the option switch?
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It's a bit of a hidden place. There's a few places you can right click in the mixer to access the menu but the easiest one is probably to right click on a blank part of the master mixer channel. It should be in there, half way up.
Then if you make the send pre or post (in the normal popup window) then the send position changes to reflect that
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07-12-2020, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daniellumertz
Using it is a bit laggy
+ Track panels: option to show sends in TCP list
My pc should be fine for that hahah : i5-8400 32gb of ram ssd....
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I’m almost to 100% sure that the tooltip is causing this lagging. I also have this issue when moving the faders in the Mixer. Try disabling tooltips in the preferences to see if it’s better. I suspect the tooltip GUI update is fighting the GUI elements update.
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07-12-2020, 01:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musicbynumbers
It's a bit of a hidden place. There's a few places you can right click in the mixer to access the menu but the easiest one is probably to right click on a blank part of the master mixer channel. It should be in there, half way up.
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got it. thanks. great feature.
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07-12-2020, 02:05 PM
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TCP fx should wrap in a way to preserve as much of the column as possible. Now they start to form lines as soon as possible. IMO there should be no linear left-right continuity, except when there is only a single line.
So in the picture bellow, when the track is collapsed, the first column should stay unchanged and the second one should have 4 empty slots. If there was the third effect added to the end of the list, it would be shown at the top of the second column.
Also as written before, columns should be visually separated.
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07-12-2020, 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Not listed in the changelog, but also included: WALTER item for "tcp.sendlist" to let a theme configure a discrete list of sends in the TCP, if desired.
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Could there also be an option to have a separate fx inserts and parameters in discrete lists?
Or somehow make a mirror of these MCP parameters. Plus per-track ability to hide each group (in MCP it's done by dragging the particular list to 0 height).
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07-12-2020, 04:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Stevie_
I’m almost to 100% sure that the tooltip is causing this lagging. I also have this issue when moving the faders in the Mixer. Try disabling tooltips in the preferences to see if it’s better. I suspect the tooltip GUI update is fighting the GUI elements update.
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Thanks for the response stevie, yeah disabling tooltip gets a little better, a little laggy still. But big difference in the mixer o.o so smooth ! But I kinda like to have tooltip for measuring sometimes
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07-12-2020, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by daniellumertz
Thanks for the response stevie, yeah disabling tooltip gets a little better, a little laggy still. But big difference in the mixer o.o so smooth ! But I kinda like to have tooltip for measuring sometimes
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Turning off the tooltips is definitely not a solution on the long run. I have tooltips always enabled, because I want to see the current values in the mixer at all times. So a general fix for the tooltips would definitely be appreciated.
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07-13-2020, 07:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
v6.12+dev0711 - July 11 2020
[*]+ Track panels: option to show sends in TCP list
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Very excited to see this! But can't for the life of me find where the option to turn this on is (I'm a bit behind with pre-releases these days).
If someone could please clue me in where I find the TCP send option I'd really appreciate it!
Big thanks!
Ben
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07-13-2020, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Zero
Very excited to see this! But can't for the life of me find where the option to turn this on is (I'm a bit behind with pre-releases these days).
If someone could please clue me in where I find the TCP send option I'd really appreciate it!
Big thanks!
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options > show sends in TCP
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07-14-2020, 08:38 AM
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options > show sends in TCP
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Awesome - many thanks.
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