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04-01-2020, 02:15 PM
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Anyone having troubles with Molot under Win 10?
I am on a new machine and when I try to open the plugin Molot (by vladg/sound) REAPER just closes. It's not even hanging. Just crashing completely.
Note: it doesn't happen when Molot is used in an old project. Only once I try to open its UI.
I wrote to the developer and he says they wouldn't maintain Molot anymore, so they can't guarantee any compatibility. It's a shame because I can't readjust my old mixes anymore. Anyone having the same issue or is it maybe just my system?
I remember that some plugins had issues with certain development tools used by other REAPER extensions. It may be as simple as that...
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04-01-2020, 03:17 PM
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Just tried it on an existing project. Added Molot & Reaper froze.
Second attempt it all seems to be working fine. Go figure... Off to bed but I`ll try it again in the morning
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04-01-2020, 04:06 PM
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Thanks Ivan for giving it a try. I noticed it is definitely the GUI making trouble. If I load my projects with the GUI-less version of Molot, all is fine without crashes.
But... it's the GUI that makes the Russian underground sound!!!
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04-02-2020, 04:27 AM
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Forgot to say that it started working on my reaper when I had added another of the vlad series plugins before adding Molot. Dont know if it was a coincidence, as I subsequently remived the other limiter & Molot still worked, as did reaper.
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04-02-2020, 12:19 PM
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Hmmmm..... It's working fine here on Reaper V6.04. I'm using the 64 bit version of Molot.
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04-02-2020, 02:37 PM
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Molot seems OK here (Win10 x64) but presets act weird. I select say bass preset, make changes to parms, now reset presets and re-select the bass preset and the changes I made are still there! Have to remove plugin and re-add it to get original bass preset params back. I haven't used this plugin in ages, maybe it always acted this way?
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05-09-2020, 12:30 AM
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I tried 4 times yesterday, with different settings, to load Molot 64. Immediate crash every time.
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"If I can hear well, then everything I do is right" (Allen Sides)
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05-09-2020, 07:25 AM
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Windows 10 64 bit, Molot 64 bit, working fine, also presets.
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05-10-2020, 09:06 AM
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I'm getting instant crash on adding Molot too...
I ran dependency walker on Molot and compared it to TDR Limiter 6.
This smells fishy:
C:\windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_ 6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.18362.592_none_17aba4766da537 d0
All limiter 6 dependencies are in C:/Windows/system32
Molot uses gdiplus.dll - Limiter 6 does not.
gdiplus.dll does exist in system32 but Dependency walker shows the above "winsxs" path when analyzing Molot.
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05-11-2020, 09:37 AM
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Can't speak for the 64bit but the 32bit ver. loads and functions without a hitch on Win 10 64bit Intel
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05-18-2020, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beingmf
I tried 4 times yesterday, with different settings, to load Molot 64. Immediate crash every time.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rdnzl
I'm getting instant crash on adding Molot too...
I ran dependency walker on Molot and compared it to TDR Limiter 6.
This smells fishy:
C:\windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_ 6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.18362.592_none_17aba4766da537 d0
All limiter 6 dependencies are in C:/Windows/system32
Molot uses gdiplus.dll - Limiter 6 does not.
gdiplus.dll does exist in system32 but Dependency walker shows the above "winsxs" path when analyzing Molot.
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Now this is interesting. Same thing that happens to me all the time. Also with Tokyo Dawn Lab's Proximity. I can't use that one anymore either once the GUI opens.
I wonder if it has to do with the graphics cards then... Since other users don't seem to have any problem on the same OS and plugin version.
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05-18-2020, 09:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timothys_monster
Now this is interesting. Same thing that happens to me all the time. Also with Tokyo Dawn Lab's Proximity. I can't use that one anymore either once the GUI opens.
I wonder if it has to do with the graphics cards then... Since other users don't seem to have any problem on the same OS and plugin version.
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Proximity? Really? Interesting... my graphics card is a MSI Radeon RX VEGA 64.
Adding Tokyo Dawn / Proximity to the list, the situation looks like this:
- vladg/Molot : crash
- vladg/Limiter6 : crash
- vladg/Nova67P: OK
- vladg/molot-nogui: OK (well, at least it opens. Haven't tested further)
- Tokyo Dawn/Proximity : crash
- Tokyo Dawn/Limiter6 : OK
- Tokyo Dawn/Nova : OK
Could you guys who have Molot x64 working in Windows 10 tell us which GPU you have?
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05-18-2020, 10:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rdnzl
Could you guys who have Molot x64 working in Windows 10 tell us which GPU you have?
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Win10 x64 (upgrade from Win7), REAPER v6.10, RADEON HD6670 (~8 yr old GPU card using whatever driver Win10 installed over old Win7 stuff).
I put all these (and open gui,tweaked some params, etc) on one track playing a WAV, no crashing here,..
VST: TDR Nova (Tokyo Dawn Labs)
VST: Molot (Vladislav Goncharov)
VST: Limiter No6 (Vladislav Goncharov)
VST: Proximity (TDR Labs)
VST: TDR Kotelnikov (Tokyo Dawn Labs)
VST: TDR VOS SlickEQ (Tokyo Dawn Labs)
^ These should all be the latest versions, and everything is x64.
And if matters, Intel i7-3770 @ 4GHz, w/all power management enabled.
Last edited by Edgemeal; 05-18-2020 at 11:01 AM.
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05-18-2020, 12:20 PM
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I'm running the onboard GPU from my i5-7400. It's Intel HD Graphics 630.
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05-19-2020, 04:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dug dog
I'm running the onboard GPU from my i5-7400. It's Intel HD Graphics 630.
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I'm on an i7-8565U with an Intel UHD Graphics 620.
But yours seem to work fine... So maybe it's not the graphics card then??
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09-24-2020, 03:04 AM
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Great news!
"The long awaited remake of VladG's venerable "Molot" compressor now reached late evaluation stages, with a release within the next few weeks. We'll announce more details as soon as possible!
Best regards,
Vlad, Jan and Fabien"
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09-24-2020, 10:48 AM
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Those are great news!
I hope their new plugin will be compatible with the old version, so I can use it in old projects which no longer work.
But I guess this is too much to wish for...
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10-25-2020, 11:57 AM
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Strange things are afoot...
I'm having the same issues with Slate's plugs, particularly Overloud's TH-U. Serious hangups and computer munch just opening the window.
Since I downloaded version 6.15 I have gotten NOTHING accomplished.
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