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09-25-2019, 05:50 AM
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Stuck notes while recording midi
I recently started experiencing Reaper recording a lot of stock notes when I record midi and this issue doesn't happen in any other DAW's. It also didn't used to happen until a few updates ago. Can't say which one now but with each update the issue has gotten worse. So bad that now I cannot record 4 bars of midi without recording at least 3 stuck notes.
It is also not restricted to a particular plugin as it affects VSTi(x86 & x64 alike) and rewire (Reason precisely).
Recently my production process has been greatly crippled as I thought this was a virus issue and have formated my computer severally only to have the same issue persist.
Please can anybody tell me how to solve this issue.
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09-25-2019, 10:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dePUNDIT
I recently started experiencing Reaper recording a lot of stock notes when I record midi and this issue doesn't happen in any other DAW's. It also didn't used to happen until a few updates ago. Can't say which one now but with each update the issue has gotten worse. So bad that now I cannot record 4 bars of midi without recording at least 3 stuck notes.
It is also not restricted to a particular plugin as it affects VSTi(x86 & x64 alike) and rewire (Reason precisely).
Recently my production process has been greatly crippled as I thought this was a virus issue and have formated my computer severally only to have the same issue persist.
Please can anybody tell me how to solve this issue.
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This issue has been reported several times both with hardware and soft synths. Just hit F3 to unstuck the notes until a fix is out ... If any.
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09-25-2019, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dupont
This issue has been reported several times both with hardware and soft synths. Just hit F3 to unstuck the notes until a fix is out ... If any.
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Thank u very much for your response. But this isn't very practical for me.
If I'm recording a pass on my midi keyboard and a note gets stuck (records like it's still being pressed even though I've lifted my finger from the note) it'll be very difficult to hit F3 and continue recording.
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09-26-2019, 01:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dePUNDIT
Thank u very much for your response. But this isn't very practical for me.
If I'm recording a pass on my midi keyboard and a note gets stuck (records like it's still being pressed even though I've lifted my finger from the note) it'll be very difficult to hit F3 and continue recording.
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I know this is annoying.
Sometimes, F3 is not enough and even my hardware synths are bugged and I must restart them + the audio/midi interface.
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09-26-2019, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dupont
I know this is annoying.
Sometimes, F3 is not enough and even my hardware synths are bugged and I must restart them + the audio/midi interface.
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If I can't find a solution for this issue then I'm afraid I may have no choice but to jump ship to Cakewalk by BandLab because all I do is work with midi all day everyday. If I can't comfortably and smoothly record midi then I cannot produce music.
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09-26-2019, 01:39 PM
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When I use reainsert to send midi to external synths it seems there are less stuck notes.
I was working with 2 synths today plugged in 2 different midi interfaces and I got no stuck notes during several hours.
Each synth had is own track with midi items and his own reainsert instance.
Did you check the local function on your hardware synth is off in order to avoid midi loop backs ?
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09-26-2019, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dupont
When I use reainsert to send midi to external synths it seems there are less stuck notes.
I was working with 2 synths today plugged in 2 different midi interfaces and I got no stuck notes during several hours.
Each synth had is own track with midi items and his own reainsert instance.
Did you check the local function on your hardware synth is off in order to avoid midi loop backs ?
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I use a midi keyboard (Yamaha PSR-S900) to trigger and record midi.
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09-26-2019, 05:46 PM
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that sucks man, I get stuck notes a lot too, but I don't record live often so it' s not a big deal usually.
Have you tried installing a slightly older version of reaper to see if helps?
Also, what exactly is your midi I/O situation? Are you going from a usb cable to the computer? maybe you could try running a midi cable from your keyboard into your audio interface? Sometimes tweaking random stuff will fix a problem like this, who knows why. Also, i would definitely make sure you don't have a midi feedback loop going on (google it, I'm sure there's a lot of in depth explanations out there) because if your midi input is getting repeats of the same notes somewho, that would definitely increase the likelyhood of having some stuck notes.
good luck man, I know how frustrating that ish is.
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09-26-2019, 05:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stillshaded
that sucks man, I get stuck notes a lot too, but I don't record live often so it' s not a big deal usually.
Have you tried installing a slightly older version of reaper to see if helps?
Also, what exactly is your midi I/O situation? Are you going from a usb cable to the computer? maybe you could try running a midi cable from your keyboard into your audio interface? Sometimes tweaking random stuff will fix a problem like this, who knows why. Also, i would definitely make sure you don't have a midi feedback loop going on (google it, I'm sure there's a lot of in depth explanations out there) because if your midi input is getting repeats of the same notes somewho, that would definitely increase the likelyhood of having some stuck notes.
good luck man, I know how frustrating that ish is.
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I use a USB midi chord straight from keyboard to computer. Midi output isn't plugged in as I have no need for that and don't use it. Midi output to USB device is also not enabled in Reaper preferences. Also my interface doesn't have a midi input pot so I can't run midi through it.
Last edited by dePUNDIT; 09-26-2019 at 06:11 PM.
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09-28-2019, 03:01 AM
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@dePUNDIT
Have you tried to insert a reacontrol midi in your track in order to monitor what is comming from your midi keyboard which could mess the midi buffer ?
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09-28-2019, 02:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dupont
@dePUNDIT
Have you tried to insert a reacontrol midi in your track in order to monitor what is comming from your midi keyboard which could mess the midi buffer ?
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Please how do I do that. I tried inserting it but couldn't find anyway it would let me monitor what messages is coming from my midi keyboard.
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09-29-2019, 02:40 AM
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in arrange view
right clic on your track with the midi input
on the drop down menu :
-midi track control
-Show midi track control panel
-in reacontrolmidi plugin clic on the top right box "show log"
-Press a key on you keybord or move a controler and you should see midi messages in the right column
You can also select "log sysex" and "meta messages" at the bottom of that column.
If some messages are continuously displayed even if you don't touch your keyboard, this could be the problem.
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10-01-2019, 02:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dupont
in arrange view
right clic on your track with the midi input
on the drop down menu :
-midi track control
-Show midi track control panel
-in reacontrolmidi plugin clic on the top right box "show log"
-Press a key on you keybord or move a controler and you should see midi messages in the right column
You can also select "log sysex" and "meta messages" at the bottom of that column.
If some messages are continuously displayed even if you don't touch your keyboard, this could be the problem.
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I just tried this and noticed a few notes coming up in the log without note off info. Sometimes,these aren't even notes I'm touching at the time.
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10-01-2019, 11:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dePUNDIT
I just tried this and noticed a few notes coming up in the log without note off info. Sometimes,these aren't even notes I'm touching at the time.
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There is a problem with your keyboard, try with another one.
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10-01-2019, 08:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dupont
There is a problem with your keyboard, try with another one.
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I think you're right... Thanks for the assist.
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10-21-2019, 06:22 AM
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i have the same problem
but it's not only when recording but also when playing a midi.
i had this with many vst instruments already.
i didn't have this in the past... and i don't have this issue in other daws.
i tend to belive this is something to do with reaper's midi behaviour.
really annoying.
I need to restart the project to stop those stuck midi notes.
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10-21-2019, 06:40 AM
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I've solved my own midi issue. I realized that it was being caused by my midi keyboard. The keyboards midi port had disconnected from the panel and was shaking. I just got it soldered back in and that was it... Problem solved!
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10-21-2019, 07:27 AM
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I disconnected my midi keyboard...
adding notes with the mouse and see what happens when i get to E4 and F5#
right now it is getting stuck when pressing e4 or f5# again and again,
but it's randomally at different times...and in different vsti
Notes are getting stuck.
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