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04-30-2019, 04:59 AM
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#1
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 708
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Reaper 5 report card
Notation
Effort: B
Execution: D
Should have been left to third party vendor.
ARA:
Effort: D
Execution: D
That horrible thing that color's siginal levels:
Effort: F
Execution: F
Reaper 5 was good till version 5.20 then went to the shit pile. Addition after addition but other issues never corrected.
Maybe Reaper 6 will revive Reaper back to it's former glory.
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04-30-2019, 05:10 AM
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#2
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,030
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Any objective facts to support your grades? Does Reaper run slower since 5.2? Is it less stable? I’m legitimately curious how you measure effort and execution.
If you have data to backup your opinion it’s one thing. If it’s just your opinion, then it’s worth no more or less than anyone else’s opinion.
Last edited by pcartwright; 04-30-2019 at 06:45 AM.
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04-30-2019, 06:54 AM
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#3
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,030
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtis
Notation
Effort: B
Execution: D
Should have been left to third party vendor.
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I have no idea about the other features you mentioned (I don’t have any ARA plugins, and I’m not sure what you mean by the color signal level thing), but here’s my take on the notation feature:
1. It is better than most DAW notation views because:
a. I can add a myriad of articulations
b. The articulations can be read and thus manipulate MIDI (I’ve only started testing approaches to this)
c. I can adjust the visual quantization to make it easier to read
2. It’s not as sophisticated as Dorico or Finale, but it’s not meant to be.
3. It would be even better if:
a. It had a built in articulation mapper
b. If I could pin custom articulations to the left or right of the note head and not just below or above
4. Third parties have attempted to add this feature before and did not come close to the functionality of the built in notation view.
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04-30-2019, 07:04 AM
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#4
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Scribe
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Van Diemen's Land
Posts: 12,201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pcartwright
I have no idea about the other features you mentioned (I don’t have any ARA plugins, and I’m not sure what you mean by the color signal level thing), but here’s my take on the notation feature:
1. It is better than most DAW notation views because:
a. I can add a myriad of articulations
b. The articulations can be read and thus manipulate MIDI (I’ve only started testing approaches to this)
c. I can adjust the visual quantization to make it easier to read
2. It’s not as sophisticated as Dorico or Finale, but it’s not meant to be.
3. It would be even better if:
a. It had a built in articulation mapper
b. If I could pin custom articulations to the left or right of the note head and not just below or above
4. Third parties have attempted to add this feature before and did not come close to the functionality of the built in notation view.
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Yes, but what do facts have to do with it?
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04-30-2019, 07:09 AM
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#5
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 3,204
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Report cards are generally issued by people who know how to do it and are trying to teach it. So:
How many DAWs have you coded?
Asking for a friend...
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04-30-2019, 08:15 AM
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#6
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 976
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What's the point of this post? You don't offer any direction for improvement, it's just whining. "This sucks, it used to be better." Since 5.20 works better for you, just go use that and make some music.
Here, I'll show you. If you want to improve your post, list some specific issues that you're having, ie, "the spectrograph causes lag of up to 2 seconds. I find it useful but that much lag is unworkable. Here is how I can reproduce the issue[list steps]."
If you don't want to take the time to do that, fine, but go post your complaining in the lounge. If you have time to post this waste of space, you have time to post useful criticism.
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04-30-2019, 09:34 AM
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#7
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 588
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason
What's the point of this post? You don't offer any direction for improvement, it's just whining. "This sucks, it used to be better."
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That's all this guy does, couple posts a day of straight up whining. Just don't engage until he goes away.
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04-30-2019, 10:23 AM
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#8
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 22,754
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He carefully keeps himself JUST the right side of being reported to the webmaster. I just ignored him a day or so ago but as always people will insist on quoting him, so I still get to read his "contributions".
Just think of him as our pet troll, even if he isnt actually a troll.
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04-30-2019, 01:29 PM
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#9
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,096
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Indeed - pet troll. He's been on my ignore list for a long time now.
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04-30-2019, 01:49 PM
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#10
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 863
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtis
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Other DAW's are available. Bye.
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04-30-2019, 02:40 PM
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#11
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: South
Posts: 587
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Pathetic whinge with no detailed explanation of the "issues" he has.
Lazy.
Effort: F
Execution: F
Curtis - please make a better effort with your "work" : Fail
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04-30-2019, 04:39 PM
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#12
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 187
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Don't know the OP, can't say I recall reading any of his posts or threads, so don't really have an opinion, you all may well be correct. But I get the distinct impression that the only report card that would be accepted here would be one with a resounding PASS, perhaps even perfect scores in each category, anything approaching a FAIL will not be excepted? That's just the impression I get, a bit like the old Cakewalk forums, I may be wrong.
fwiw, I still keep an eye on REAPER, and renew every time it comes around, but I moved on to Studio One about 4 years ago . . . Rock solid, does everything I need easily and with ease, nothing I've seen in REAPER over that period has even remotely caused me to reevaluate . . . so I guess that's my own personal report card. No doubt REAPER is one of the most powerful DAW's around, if not the most powerful. It's just not that obvious, not that friendly, and down right ugly.
I went through years ago and learnt how to use it quite well, I know/knew my way around it, but it wasn't a pleasurable experience, not all that intuitive at times, Studio One was just a joy to use, and get to know, easy and intuitive. I guess that's why many people refer to REAPER as 'The Linux of the DAW world' and I can understand that, it does feel a lot like you are using a Linux type thing. Went there years ago for a few years, the only thing Linux is good for is wasting your time and restricting your options, never again, but that's just another story and just my opinion.
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04-30-2019, 07:55 PM
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#13
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,030
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jinotsuh
I get the distinct impression that the only report card that would be accepted here would be one with a resounding PASS, perhaps even perfect scores in each category, anything approaching a FAIL will not be excepted? That's just the impression I get, a bit like the old Cakewalk forums, I may be wrong.
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That might be an accurate statement for some users, but it's inaccurate for most. For example, there is plenty of healthy debate on features during the pre-release threads. Often times a complaint given with supporting evidence generates conversation about ways to fix the problem (either by referencing an unknown action, option, or a script). Sometimes it leads to changes by the Reaper developers.
The biggest issue with what Curtis wrote and threads like it is that complaints are given without any facts to backup their opinions. Issues that are reported with clear observations do not get this kind of push-back.
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04-30-2019, 08:48 PM
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#14
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,572
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oh fuck these people
im a huge critic of reaper and i also hugely love it
I think the devs are awesome and human
fucking hell you nuggets get a life
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04-30-2019, 11:09 PM
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#15
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Australia
Posts: 489
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For what it is worth, and that is not a lot...
This boils down to one of two things, or possible both:
A:
Curtis genuinely believes for whatever reason there are problems.
B:
Curtis is just taking the piss out of everyone and sitting back having a hell of a laugh watching everyone get their nuts in a knot.
It is very common (read back through his posts) for Curtis to post vague and aloof threads. This post is almost identical in nature to the mystery diagnoses of multiple (unknown) problems post.
I have nothing against Curtis, but when he post's threads like this, then respondents ask for more information/clarification. Whether by ignorance or arrogance, he refuses to answer - the only conclusion I can draw from that is he is having a good old laugh at the expense of those responding. In the mystery errors post, I believe it was still not established what the actual 'diagnoses' program was he downloaded, except the aloofness of 'from Microsoft'. They make more than one program
The same is happening here again - just wish wash aloof rubbish with no basis or merit - no information or technical data/description to support the claims and once he posts he runs and hides.
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04-30-2019, 11:28 PM
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#16
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Oblivion
Posts: 10,271
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What a turd.
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05-01-2019, 12:16 AM
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#17
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Croatia
Posts: 24,798
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Curtis report card:
Trolling:
Effort - F
Execution - F
Asshattery:
Effort - F
Execution - A+
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05-01-2019, 05:17 AM
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#18
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
Posts: 14,784
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While trolling is a crime, requesting execution of the culprit IMHO is a bit too steep.
-Michael
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05-01-2019, 09:28 AM
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#19
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Croatia
Posts: 24,798
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Not THAT execution, Michael
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05-01-2019, 10:16 AM
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#20
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,572
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Hey I paid good money for an execution
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05-01-2019, 10:55 AM
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#21
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 8,704
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
Not THAT execution, Michael
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He says with his best impression of a serial killer avatar!
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