Old 10-18-2020, 12:18 AM   #321
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I like the MC Producer a lot, but one thing I'd like to change - tcp_heights supercollapsed. When I edit rtconfig.txt file it ruins theme graphic elements. Is there a way to make it possible?

Would be perfect for me to make it 4 instead of 10

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Old 10-18-2020, 04:43 AM   #322
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I like the MC Producer a lot, but one thing I'd like to change - tcp_heights supercollapsed. When I edit rtconfig.txt file it ruins theme graphic elements. Is there a way to make it possible?

Would be perfect for me to make it 4 instead of 10

From this:

To This:
Hi! yes, super collapsed track height can be set as low as 1px.
The mute-solo section will stay un-interrupted, with track meters always aligned.

This is by design and isn't really meant to be changed, also I can't think of a workaround for it, I'm afraid. It is because of the horizontally fixed mute-solo buttons, and the additional color/indicator strip on the right.




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Hi! yes, super collapsed track height can be set as low as 1px.
The mute-solo section will stay un-interrupted, with track meters always aligned.

This is by design and isn't really meant to be changed, also I can't think of a workaround for it, I'm afraid. It is because of the horizontally fixed mute-solo buttons, and the additional color/indicator strip on the right.




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I mean HOW should I do this? How to edit a theme to make children tracks 4px? I tried to unzip it and edit rtconfig but after I zipped it again some of the graphic elements started to look different in a bad way.
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Old 10-18-2020, 10:38 AM   #324
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I mean HOW should I do this? How to edit a theme to make children tracks 4px? I tried to unzip it and edit rtconfig but after I zipped it again some of the graphic elements started to look different in a bad way.
oh sorry, in case you managed to change tcp_heights to values 4 25 32 76 inside rtconfig, the theme needs a new path for the extracted images folder on your system.

From the Theme Tweaker in Reaper: Load the _unpacked.ReaperTheme. Browse and navigate to the extracted theme root folder (the folder that contain the rtconfig) and it should reload the images correctly. Save/overwrite the _unpacked.ReaperTheme with the new path.

It’s not a must to repack the theme, however,
if you need it as a ReaperThemeZip (without the extension ‘dot’), the local images path should not be present inside the _unpacked.ReaperTheme. And only this path is needed: ui_img=CONCEPTSIX-MC-Producer_unpacked.

Then you can try Zip it together with the root folder, and finally delete ’_unpacked’ and the extension ‘dot’ from the created zip-archive file name.

If none of this works, or perhaps not well explained by me, I’ll be more than happy to pack it for you



Another thing I notice:
It looks as if the Roboto fonts for CSIX aren’t installed on your system.
Using a different font could have impact on line heights and text placement in some areas. I really encourage to install the enclosed fonts.

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oh sorry, in case you managed to change tcp_heights to values 4 25 32 76 inside rtconfig, the theme needs a new path for the extracted images folder on your system.

From the Theme Tweaker in Reaper: Load the _unpacked.ReaperTheme. Browse and navigate to the extracted theme root folder (the folder that contain the rtconfig) and it should reload the images correctly. Save/overwrite the _unpacked.ReaperTheme with the new path.

It’s not a must to repack the theme, however,
if you need it as a ReaperThemeZip (without the extension ‘dot’), the local images path should not be present inside the _unpacked.ReaperTheme. And only this path is needed: ui_img=CONCEPTSIX-MC-Producer_unpacked.

Then you can try Zip it together with the root folder, and finally delete ’_unpacked’ and the extension ‘dot’ from the created zip-archive file name.

If none of this works, or perhaps not well explained by me, I’ll be more than happy to pack it for you



Another thing I notice:
It looks as if the Roboto fonts for CSIX aren’t installed on your system.
Using a different font could have impact on line heights and text placement in some areas. I really encourage to install the enclosed fonts.

/f


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Thank you for detailed explanation, I'll try to figure it out myself.

I have Roboto font installed, maybe it's a Win 10 compatibility issue?

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Hi! yes, super collapsed track height can be set as low as 1px.
The mute-solo section will stay un-interrupted, with track meters always aligned.

This is by design and isn't really meant to be changed, also I can't think of a workaround for it, I'm afraid. It is because of the horizontally fixed mute-solo buttons, and the additional color/indicator strip on the right.




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So I changed it to 4px, but I don't get why I don't have the separation with a darker lines between collapse tracks like you do?

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So I changed it to 4px, but I don't get why I don't have the separation with a darker lines between collapse tracks like you do?
Ok good, you managed to load the images. Reason for the separation lines is because I made every other child track a different color. Below 8px supercollapsed will loose the lower line. I should be able to fix this for smaller heights, but not right now...

In concern of the fonts, I see you have them installed. It's odd, maybe you edited the Walter fonts?

Look at your list compared to mine, the track label font (Walter font #3 for normal resolution) is defined as Condensed in the original theme, and in yours it's using Regular. I did check on a VM Win install here, but perhaps there's something making it jump. However Walter #6 looks to be the same:

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Ok good, you managed to load the images. Reason for the separation lines is because I made every other child track a different color. Below 8px supercollapsed will loose the lower line. I should be able to fix this for smaller heights, but not right now...

In concern of the fonts, I see you have them installed. It's odd, maybe you edited the Walter fonts?

Look at your list compared to mine, the track label font (Walter font #3 for normal resolution) is defined as Condensed in the original theme, and in yours it's using Regular. I did check on a VM Win install here, but perhaps there's something making it jump. However Walter #6 looks to be the same:

I didn't change/edit anything in walter, I just installed a theme and that's all. The size of the fonts for example from 5 to 10 is 21, I mean they were like that when I first enabled a theme, maybe it'll help.
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I didn't change/edit anything in walter, I just installed a theme and that's all. The size of the fonts for example from 5 to 10 is 21, I mean they were like that when I first enabled a theme, maybe it'll help.
Okay thanks for info. Here Walter font 5-10 is size 28 and not 21, no matter the screen resolution. Most likely an OS difference, and I have encountered other examples like this in the past. I'll try investigate again.

* For now, I just changed and re-uploaded both MC themes using supercollapsed = 8px. I know it's not super slim but little smaller and they still have the separation lines just like BC and DM Series (8 and 5px height).


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Okay thanks for info. Here Walter font 5-10 is size 28 and not 21, no matter the screen resolution. Most likely an OS difference, and I have encountered other examples like this in the past. I'll try investigate again.

* For now, I just changed and re-uploaded both MC themes using supercollapsed = 8px. I know it's not super slim but little smaller and they still have the separation lines just like BC and DM Series (8 and 5px height).


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It looks much better now. Thank you and keep up great work!
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It looks much better now. Thank you and keep up great work!
Hi again, I have uploaded a new mc revision, using 4 px when supercollapsed. I believe (and agree) this is preferable.

About the Roboto fonts, I'm wondering if the larger font bundle on your system differs from the Google ttf fonts that are included with the CSIX installation. To my knowledge Reaper keep track about fonts by their real names, and if it isn't exactly same it could be mixed up. Just a thought.


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Hi again, I have uploaded a new mc revision, using 4 px when supercollapsed. I believe (and agree) this is preferable.

About the Roboto fonts, I'm wondering if the larger font bundle on your system differs from the Google ttf fonts that are included with the CSIX installation. To my knowledge Reaper keep track about fonts by their real names, and if it isn't exactly same it could be mixed up. Just a thought.


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Hi, perfect!

As for the font, here is the info:

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Hi, perfect!

As for the font, here is the info:
ok, as for Roboto it's the same version we have.
Could you also check Roboto Condensed. Here it is a unique font family, I didn't notice that one in your gif.




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ok, as for Roboto it's the same version we have.
Could you also check Roboto Condensed. Here it is a unique font family, I didn't notice that one in your gif.




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To me it looks as if you need to add the two condensed styles: Roboto Condensed - Regular and Bold. Or do you already have it? Otherwise check csix install folder 3)

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To me it looks as if you need to add the two condensed styles: Roboto Condensed - Regular and Bold. Or do you already have it? Otherwise check csix install folder 3)

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Sure, I have them all installed

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Sure, I have them all installed
Super.
Just for info, the condensed styles was defined for these areas (in normal resolution):
Titles, transport, and mcp volume labels.



What screen size are you using?


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Super.
Just for info, the condensed styles was defined for these areas (in normal resolution):
Titles, transport, and mcp volume labels.



What screen size are you using?


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I use Dell UP2716D, 2560 x 1440
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