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Thanks jeffos, appreciate it. We've had stability issues in general with Reaper x32 on mac when hitting the memory limit os 2GB it always crashes. we have very large projects for the show so we need x64 I'm afraid.
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Ok... Got it anyway, fixed for the next SWS/S&M release (so it will be v2.4.0 #3).
(the next pb now is how to host new SWS releases because google let us down :/ we're working on it...) |
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FYI Jeffos, I'm getting this when I try to PM you: "Jeffos has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."
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Seems that Synth1 vst cannot be used with Live configs, you cannot select the presets, as they are one by one.
Is there a way to add a snapshot to live config, this way I can completely open a state. Or other question: can the snapshots be used in a live configs way? (selected bij PC) |
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Go to Synth1 options, enable "Select program from host" there. Then on MIDI tab enable receiving Bank Select and Program Changes.
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It's already set program from host, but it's says none in liveconfig, the other options are not available. It's because Synth1 uses seperate patches, not a patch bank. Could I use the snapshots in anyway. I tried selecting them but they don't apear in the lc window? UPDATE: I've found the way to recall the snapshots Let's try it tomorrow Last edited by godly; 04-17-2014 at 02:00 PM. |
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Is it possible to switch through programs with one pedal?
For instance, for one song I wanna cycle through these: Strings Piano Lead Srings Lead Chorus W/ one pedal is it possible to cycle through all of these patches? |
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Using PreLoad: preload will NOT load into ram a BIGGish sample library IN THE BACKGROUND while playing the current config LIVE. Preload works only/best with fx and VSTi switching and NOT sample player VSTi's patches and all their ram using samples. Could i have perhaps said that better? yep. Every fumbling attempt I'm made at using Live Configs AND Preload with TWO sample library patches suggests that Preloaded live configs have no benefit for using just large sample libraries? yes? Make my day - tell me I'm inaccurate Last edited by tweed; 08-10-2014 at 02:47 AM. |
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As this message is rather old, I am wondering if there better options right now. (I of course have the most recent Reaper and SWS versions.) I am trying to do just this: using Midi "Program Change" Messages to trigger "Live Config" events. Up till now, I was unable to "Learn" any Midi events (be that "Program Change" or any others). Do I (still) need "MIDItoReaControlPath" to feed any midi events to the "Live Config" Midi input ? Do I (still) need to use the "JS effect" provided to convert "Program Change" messages to "Control Change" messages ? In fact IMHO it would be great if you could combine the "Live Config" feature of SWS and the Midi-Input feature of "MIDItoReaControlPath" in a single VST for easily converting Reaper in a Live VST host. Thanks for your great work ! -Michael Last edited by mschnell; 01-27-2015 at 11:29 PM. |
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I m a live sound engineer and use reaper as a multi vst FX during the live performances. I really enjoy the live config extension and snapshot because i can synch my desk snapshots in midi with reaper and use different settings for each song. Does someone know if we can put more than one activate action per line in live config. I want to trig one snapshot and go to one marker in order to change the tempo of the project. This will be really usefull to put all my fx in the same tempo than the live song. Thanks in advance for your answer |
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Please note I am new to Reaper Please help
I have setup 5 vst instrument tracks in reaper The instruments are played through midi data from another midi track I need to switch track during Live performance using a midi pad with 5 buttons so that I can select and play any instrument during a song I do not know what MIDI codes I need to send from midi controller pad with 5 buttons to reaper and what should be midi port and channel assignments to achieve this Also how can I send track switching midi codes using Reaper Virtual Midi Keyboard Please kindly provide me sufficient step-by-step detail Thank You Very Much Rav |
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hwover as a live sound engineer, i indeed do care about the keyboard and mouse. since i need to make adjustments to plugins and insert plugins on the fly. very nice though this looks very interesting as an alternative to waves or liveprofessor |
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It can be trained to adhere to any CC controller on any channel (exactly one CC and exactly one channel dedicated to exactly one "config" (page) ). Hence if you can set it that way the 5 keyboard buttons should send the same CC on the same channel with five different values. The lines on that page are addressed by the CC value. If your keyboard buttons send different messages (e.g. program change) you need to install and configure yet two other tools. Quote:
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Thank You Very Much for your kind reply
Please kindly provide me with more details I am using Reaper in a live setup For each song, I need to create a Midi backing track with drum, base multiple sounds. Is this multiple sounds in backing track possible. Each song will have multiple midi regions which loop and which can be started or selected one after the previous using single Midi controller keyboard button Please advise if it is possible to select Midi region using single Midi controller keyboard button and how to make reaper play 2 or more sounds for each midi note on backing track Another audio input track for singer There is another track with VST software which generates Midi data from guitar. This midi data is routed to 8 other tracks which host different VSTi sounds selectable by using 8 Midi controller keyboard buttons Please kindly advise me the best solutions step-by-step with sufficient details about track routing and midi backing track region and vsti instrument selection in live Thank You Very Much |
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As LiveConfigs is provided to allow to switch on and off sound and effect engines (i.e. mute and unmute Reaper tracks), but not to control run/stop of playback, I suppose this is not the appropriate tool for what you have in mind (even though LiveConfigs in fact can generate any Reaper "actions" and via that you can start / stop playback and have full control about Reaper via scripts).
Maybe the new Reaper Feature "SubProject" allows for starting (by a Reaper event) and running multiple multi-track setups independently (but in parallel). I did not yet take a look at that. Maybe, what you want is a sampler: an instrument that triggered by a Midi (note-on) message plays back a (or multiple) recorded sound. Here you can take a look at (e.g.) "LinuxSampler" -> http://www.linuxsampler.org/documentation.html . (Despite of the name there is a Windows version. I did not look for Mac stuff). LinuxSampler (and other similar VSTs, I once tried e.g. Sforzando -> https://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/ or see -> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=115186 ) use the standard SFZ format to define it's "sounds": In an SFZ file, you define wav-files to be played back whenever a note-on is received and you can set lots of playback parameters (trigger keys, loops, pitch modification, envelopes, filters, ...) most of which you will not need here. Once you wrote an SFZ file ad saved the wave files with your sounds to be played back you can use the Sampler as a VST instrument that will play your files triggered by your pads (or whatever midi source). Of course one of the best (known) Sampers is NI Kontakt. It uses it's own propriety format and can import your wav files in a user friendly way. But it is not exactly cheap . -Michael Last edited by mschnell; 01-23-2016 at 11:13 PM. |
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Hi Godly Thank You for your reply Please kindly advise with sufficient details how I can trigger selection and playback of midi backing track region which has multiple regions using midi controller button. Please help with required scripts and or details Please let me know how a single midi note can play multiple instruments sounds on a midi backing track How to setup this midi backing track Thank You All Again |
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About the number of simultaneous live configs
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One question about the number of simultaneous live configs available : in the manual it says that we can use up to 8 configs but in the window, as well as in the actions list, I can only see 4... has anything changed since then? Iīm using the latest version of Reaper with SWS extensions v2.8.3. |
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Thanks for the feedback, mschnell!
What a pitty! So, if you have, say, 7 performers/tracks, you must distribute the changes between the 512 available rows in the 4 pages, am I wrong? |
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for me a Page is a set of sounds that I play with a masterkeyboard. I have two Masterkeyboards so I do use two Config tables, one for each of them. So I have up to 128 different sounds / patches per Masterkeyboard. Each of my masterkeyboards only has buttons to select one of 64 Sounds via Program-Change messages. OK, I could build multiple or even many patch pages but for my application, up to 64 sounds is by far enough. Maybe you have a completely different use for LiveConfigs in mind.... -Michael Last edited by mschnell; 01-27-2016 at 10:53 PM. |
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Well, I donīt know if this would open a can of worms, but Iīd find it very useful if we could add/remove pages as needed for different ensembles - say, from a solo act to a symphony orchestra -. To be precise, Iīm beginning to write for an ensemble of 4 controller keyboards, electronic percussionist and a variable number of voices from 1 to 4. If my idea could be implemented somehow, Iīd find other uses as well...
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"ensemble" = multiple players performing together.
I don't see a different use for LiveConfigs pages than using them in parallel, i.e. each is fed by a different independent controller. So you seemingly aim for multiple players. Are you sure, that a single PC will have enough performance for all this ? Due to necessary low latency setting, for live playing you do need enough PC performance headroom to be sure that no crackles will occur. -Michael Last edited by mschnell; 01-28-2016 at 06:48 AM. |
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Well, youīve got the point! Indeed, Iīve got various scenarios in mind :
- A relatively small ensemble (up to 5 instrumentalists and 1-4 voices, as told above) with light Vstis/Vsts (Synth1, FM8, Reaplugs, etc.). This can be handled by a reasonable setup, I think (I am testing an I5 netbook for this purpose during these days, but donīt discard using a desktop machine with better specs). - A medium ensemble (say 12 performers or so) with heavy-weight Vstis and light Vsts. Since I have an I7 PC with 32 gbs of ram and SSD for the OS/programs, I can - almost - assure this is totally feasible. A dedicated machine with these specs assembled for live usage is an expensive solution, but viable in any case. - Symphonic-type works, with high latency (1024)and a PC similar to the one mentioned in the previous example. I am even considering this type of usage for studio work, above all for synth and FXs handling in many parallel tracks. A single CC could provide, on each track, many changes that would need many automation/CC lanes in some cases... With such an implementation, pages could maybe be named/labeled for easier handling. In any case, it would be up to the programmer to realize how much is possible with the available setup... Last edited by Soli Deo Gloria; 01-28-2016 at 06:29 AM. |
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Besides desktop and laptop there are "embedded" PC designs.
I use a fanless i7 with 16 GB Ram and SSD built in a trunk together with an AD/box and DIs. On stage no Monitor,mouse or Computer keyboard connected. -> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=156724 -Michael |
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Wow, thatīs quite a sophisticated setup, really! Iīve just seen it available here in Argentina, in a local shopping website. As predictable, it is not precisely cheap, but neither unreasonable... Iīll take note of this and probably will ask you a question or two in the future; thanks for the data!
Regarding this, does it mean that you could effectively add the functionality I mentioned above to the Live Configs? If so, I could even willingly pay for it, you can be sure. And in that case, would it be fine if I request it to you, or should I ask Jeffos first? |
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1) SWS (of which LiveConfigs is just a part) is an open source product and so it can be enhanced in any possible way. In fact I already suggested to split the "SWS extensions" in multiple stand-alone parts one of which would be LiveConfigs. I offered to become the maintainer of that new LibeConfigs version, but got no amnswer to that. 2) Everything that LiveConfigs does can be done with things like Reaper Scripts. But creating such scripts would be a lot of work. -Michael |
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Well, thatīs good to know!
Yesterday I took a look at the Live Configs in order to test a couple of things regarding my specific needs. Apart from the number of pages and a couple of other things that I would change, the most limiting aspect of it is due not to anything related to the Live Configs themselves but to the way Reaper handles its own preset system... I donīt know your opinion, but the import/export option for the RPLs is really problematic -at least for me - because of a simple fact : it seems to behave globally, so every time I import in a FX instance a preset library, I end up affecting the other instances as well... Now, there is the ability to use FX copies on each project path, which can be a great help in this sense (I mean, to have specific presets for each instance) but then there is the issue that Iīve seen plugins that wonīt acccept to be renamed or moved from their installation location. I tried also with track templates, but at first glance it seems to need a little more time to load (depending on the plugs), and to make little changes it doesnīt seem as efficient - correct me if I am wrong, anyway -. If there was a way to load fxps on each Fx, that would ease preset handling in my case, maybe... Iīll be watching closely the Live Configs during the next months, and Iīll have to decide between this and Bidule Vst/Vsti as FX host on each track, which allows the greatest degree of control of every aspect of the system. Iīll write to you if I have more questions, and I really hope that these extensions will continue to evolve... |
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I don't understand what exactly you mean about RPLs.
What I do is this: - define a plugin in a track. - configure it to do what it should do in this track. - use the little [+] symbol on the border Reaper draws around the plugin's GUI - save the preset with a dedicated name - configure LiveConfigs to unmute this track and load that preset to that plugin. Of course this can be done with multiple plugins in a track. Of course using the same pluging in another track (or multiple times in the same track) requires multiple different preset names. I use this e.g. for Kontakt and same uses the library that is denoted by the appropriate preset. Is this what you mean ? (Some plugins may have some private setup parameters that will not be published as VST parameters. If you want to investigate in depth what is happening you might want to take a look at the (VST-) parameters that reaper will show you for the plugin (e.g. for automation). These are the parameters that are stored tn the "presets".) -Michael Last edited by mschnell; 01-29-2016 at 03:23 PM. |
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Exactly! But the problem - to my taste -, is that Reaperīs preset system is global, not on a per-instance basis. I mean, if you save presets for each instance of, say, ReaEQ in a project, and you do this with each project you work on, everytime you add a new instance of ReaEQ youīll get an insanely long/crowded list of all your presets, and thatīs a real problem, at least for me. As commented above, with the new ability to use FXs on a project basis, this could theoretically be solved by placing copies of the FXs you are going to use in the project folder, but this method would have other downsides that make it also unappealing to me in this case.
You probably know that with NIīs great synths (Massive, Absynth and FM8) you donīt have this problem since they have this wonderful method where you can enable a bank of 128 programs that are reported to the host as presets. But with most other plugins, I find it problematic... I am currently solving this by using Bidule as an FX on each track (which is my essential tool for most programming tasks, by the way). By setting everything inside a group module, I can change configurations of any reported parameter inside the whole system with a single preset change. There is some work to set up everything correctly, but the degree of control you get in the end is absolutely supreme. I am certainly interested in Live Configs as an alternative, but for my needs I would need it to be coupled with a per-instance preset system in Reaper... |
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But you are right this is not on a per Project base, as the setups are stored each in a file with the name you give it. So in multiple projects you would need to use new names, if you want new setups (Or use the same names if you want to handle them globally, which might - or might not - make sense. -Michael |
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Well, thatīs the problem to my taste...to have a global list with all the presets of all your projects (or, in any case, to have to copy the dlls of the FXs to each project directory with another name to have dedicated presets lists) itīs not viable to me. I hope this can be modified at any point of Reaperīs development...
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Just a heads up: starting with SWS v2.8.6, the action section "S&M Extension" will be removed (this section is useless now, it was introduced to workaround some old API limitations...). All related actions, including the Live Config tool's "MIDI/OSC" actions have been moved to to the "Main" section. So, if you have learned some of these actions, you will need to update your controller bindings. Sorry for the trouble, they won't change again...
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I don't think so. Well, you can do a lot with scripts... but, for a start, it'd be hard to ensure glitch-free switches and to smooth talkative MIDI/OSC controller inputs while giving OSC and/or GUI feedback at the same time, etc |
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I just hope it will not break my live playing setup (not using any actions at all) that is driven by LiveConfigs. If there are fixes and enhancements they of course are welcome. To decently test it, I would need to install the beta version on the same PC but be able to go on using the proven version for production. Is this somehow possible ? You do remember that I did an update to the user manual reflecting the current version. Do you want me to update it to the version to come ? Thanks again, -Michael |
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