No MIDI learn on vol, sends, pan? - Page 3

reaperdeeper · 12-20-2010, 03:17 PM

hellooo???????
can i pls control my send fader on track 46 on my behringer bfc2000???????

NO !!!!

update the important stuff plsssss!!!!!

evanrabby · 12-20-2010, 05:54 PM

yes, why not???
i still have a freeG volume plugin sending to a send in order to control audio to a send, its a 12 step process to assign each one...

and im already not an addict, i havent done any intoxicating substance at all for 8 years not even caffeine, LOL!

hmmm, mabe my higher power will get us send learning today...

visa tapani · 11-04-2013, 12:59 PM

It seems this thread has been inactive for a while, but this has still not been implemented, right? So +1, then...

Ollie · 11-04-2013, 07:04 PM

Actions menu->"Adjust track send n...(MIDI CC OSC only)"

DarkStar · 11-05-2013, 02:25 AM

And vote here:

http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=4740

visa tapani · 11-05-2013, 05:30 AM

Thanks - okay, so it's half-implemented. Voted for DarkStar's feature request for the full implementation.

BTW - been working pretty intensively on a slightly more extensive project for the past couple of days and almost every hour I discover some pretty glaring omission that - upon by googling I notice that - the user base has been requesting for years. I remember a couple of years back the development of Reaper felt exiting and the missing features seemed to be just around the corner. Now, some 4 years later, many of those missing feature (several of which could be called fundamental) are still missing and updates have slowed down. I've always kept my other foot in other hosts until Reaper is (for me) fully featured and stable (not an hour goes by when it doesn't crash), but now I'm getting unsure of when - if ever - Reaper will reach that state of maturity...

evanrabby · 02-22-2014, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ollie

Actions menu->"Adjust track send n...(MIDI CC OSC only)"

that only adjusts on currently selected track.
we need the control surface to adjust a given tracks send (ie, delay on lead vocal channel) regardless of current track selection.

nottooloud · 03-24-2014, 05:53 PM

Implementing the Reaper live sound mixer thing. MIDI/OSC control of sends would be lovely, pls thnx.

evanrabby · 03-24-2014, 07:47 PM

remember to vote here:
http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=4740

BenK-msx · 03-24-2014, 08:02 PM

control 'Last Touched Send' (midi osc cc) would be a good one for me.

last touched is so handy imo on FX paramaters, it should have more life in other areas. sends, track vol. pan. envelope. etc,

to click once and then have super fine control of that thing on a tactile surface is.. frankly joyful and requires only a humble control surface with e.g a few endless encoders.

nottooloud · 03-25-2014, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenK-msx

control 'Last Touched Send' (midi osc cc) would be a good one for me.

I can see the value in that.

I just now mapped the 8 knobs on my nanokontrol to "Adjust track send 1"-8 for the selected channel. I don't get direct values unless the send window is open, but you can see the tiny dial on the mixer channel send label moving. Soft takeover so it doesn't jump, and I can judge the send level by the knob position, since they're not endless. It's actually pretty slick to use.

evanrabby · 03-25-2014, 06:08 PM

all good, but lets keep focus, this thread is about getting midi learn on all sends not just on the currently selected channel.
hard encoded send to a control regardless of where i am working currently in the mixer i need to control my delay send on vocal channel 13 for instance, even when the channel is not selected.

BenK-msx · 03-25-2014, 08:20 PM

i feel your years of pain ER..

AnalogKid84 · 07-01-2014, 11:09 PM

+1. I'd love midi learn on Vol, Pan & Sends. Why not?

evanrabby · 07-01-2014, 11:15 PM

the reason why not, and this is pure conjecture, is, pure spite on the part of the developers. And once I say that's what it is now it's definitely pure spite

AnalogKid84 · 07-01-2014, 11:36 PM

If it is spite, then let the record show that I am willing to restore the balance by paying some sort of sacrifice or homage to the Devs. I've been learning mixing lately, and I'd really been sort of visualizing my process with the assumption that I'd be able to handle this without plugins and actions -- that I could assign a CC just like I can with a VST parameter.

Post a video of myself doing a rain dance on Youtube, perhaps? I'm open to negotiation.

evanrabby · 07-02-2014, 12:53 AM

I am going to do a rain dance I will post a link here shortly. I'm serious. At certain points in my live sound career I would have thrown 50 easily towards development if we could pay to get things done

spinlud · 07-02-2014, 01:51 AM

+1...not only for midi learn but also for parameter modulation

artao · 08-27-2014, 04:01 AM

+20 Gadzillion

Why this isn't already in Reaper confounds me. I see it's been requested for years now. All I want to do is click a button to freely assign/re-assign my MIDI controller knobs to whatever track volume/pan/send I feel like at any given moment, without the hassle of going thru the Actions (which, of course, universally take over any MIDI CC assigned there -- super annoying)
Please devs, PLEASE!! This is pretty basic functionality we're talking about here.

And yes, I did vote for it ... tho I'm shocked to see only 55 other people have voted for it .. CLEARLY people must not know about this FR.
So, yeah. Remember to vote for this here!!
http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=4740

Superfly76 · 09-13-2014, 09:00 AM

I'm finally getting around to setting up custom cue mixes for the band in the studio. I'd been meaning to get around to this for a while now.

I had grand plans of each member having personal control of their own cue mix on an iphone or ipad by using midi learn on the sends, but alas, this is nowhere to be found in reaper.

Pretty confounded that midi learn is available to plugins, but is not available in reaper's own mixer!?

A big huge +1 from me for this request. I'd like to be able to right click on any knob or fader and be able to midi learn it. Modulation too!

Banned · 09-14-2014, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfly76

I had grand plans of each member having personal control of their own cue mix on an iphone or ipad by using midi learn on the sends, but alas, this is nowhere to be found in reaper.

For this use case, I'd recommend to just use OSC - works great.

Mind you: 'learned' MIDI bindings do NOT generate feedback in REAPER, so having learnable MIDI bindings on sends/receives would still result in a sub-optimal functionality, prone to user error.

X-Raym · 07-12-2015, 04:47 PM

Did I missed something or this is still not avaible yet ?

evanrabby · 07-12-2015, 08:20 PM

you are missing nothing. It does not exist in reaper and never will. The developers I have decided this out of PureSpite

X-Raym · 07-13-2015, 01:21 AM

That's surprising. Why not ?

Fortunately, I succeed what I wanted to do with Mackie Control Surface.
But how would you do without that type of surface ?

nofish · 07-13-2015, 02:00 AM

workaround (not saying this replaces native implementation):

http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...2&postcount=69

edit:

Only avaible for Win32 I think.
Jeffos original post with some more info:

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=44412

Banned · 07-13-2015, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-Raym

But how would you do without that type of surface ?

Apart from the workaround already mentioned by nofish, you can also use an external tool like OSCII-bot as a 'virtual' OSC Control Surface, and write a script that converts MIDI to OSC (and vice versa, in order to enable 'feedback' to the MIDI controller device).

X-Raym · 07-13-2015, 07:03 AM

@nofish
Oh nice to see that !

I personally only used REAPER x64, and I use MAc OS from time to time, but it is good to know that it exists.

Thanks !

@banned
Thanks for you suggestions, I guess it is the more flexible solutions

Thanks !

fataldissidence · 11-16-2015, 10:36 AM

Huge +1 fom me too...

Like EvanRabby, i produce digital dub and had ideas for using a control surface for live capabilitys.

I cant see this has been implemented yet but i could really do with having multiple delay/reverb sends mapped without the need to toggle a track onscreen, for live, it is very limited as i would want to do 2 things at once. At the moment it seems i cant even have 2 sends per track mapped?

Reaper has been great for the last few years untill i have decided to have a go at this and seems to really lack. This is also the first time setting up/using a control surface so might be noob error!? If not then im going to have to use a diffrent daw but really want to stick with just reaper.

EvanRabby, you have been waiting years, i feel for you!

airon · 11-17-2015, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ollie

Actions menu->"Adjust track send n...(MIDI CC OSC only)"

Don't forget this. With this, you can change Send N on all selected tracks with one knob(best to use a relative midi knob then).

Still a shame about the missing midi learn.

Daveinnit · 11-17-2015, 06:39 PM

So the work around using the S&M SendReaControl would be great, but it just seems to respond way to slow to perform live dubbing, as in for example - dropping a delay/verb in & out on a snare hit within a beat/loop... same as the action: 'Adjust send volume' also seems to respond way too slow

After all this time are there really no plans to develop midi learn functionality to the track sends in Reaper? or maybe there is a better way of setting up Reaper for live (dub reggae style fx) dubbing? This is very frustrating :/

J Reverb · 01-27-2016, 07:41 AM

Here.
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=171846

noise_construct · 01-27-2016, 08:23 AM

+1 for MIDI learn

artao · 04-10-2016, 05:23 PM

RESURRECTION!
Sorry .. or not.
So Cockos, what's the word on this? There must be a reason you haven't implemented this yet. If not, then for the love of monkeys PLEASE implement it!!
Particularly more than 8 assignable sends, and more than 1 send per track. (well, if/when MIDI learn is implemented for these, ANY number of sends/pans/volume faders can be assigned, obviously)
I often have 2 or 3 sends from a single track, to different delays or glitchers. REALLY need to be able to adjust those on the fly from my MIDI controllers.
Pretty please?

noise_construct · 04-10-2016, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artao

RESURRECTION!
Sorry .. or not.
So Cockos, what's the word on this? There must be a reason you haven't implemented this yet. If not, then for the love of monkeys PLEASE implement it!!

Cockos (it's just one guy anyway) never read this forum, so all these thousands of FRs are for user entertainment only.

DarkStar · 04-11-2016, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noise_construct

Cockos (it's just one guy anyway) never read this forum, so all these thousands of FRs are for user entertainment only.

Completely wrong

noise_construct · 04-11-2016, 03:48 AM

I respect your view on this DarkStar, and I'd prefer to be wrong on this one, but evidence to support any other take is unfortunately lacking.

Are you aware of a case where a FR from this forum has made it to a release?

Or maybe it's just a communication issue?

Gass n Klang · 04-11-2016, 03:50 AM

++++1

EvilDragon · 04-11-2016, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noise_construct

Are you aware of a case where a FR from this forum has made it to a release?

Lots of them throughout the years have made it to a release. Lots! Examples: VCA, multiple MIDI item editing, VST3 support, and so on, and so on, far too many to count.

I've been here for 7 years now (so, much longer than you if we're going by your join date), and FRs are indeed being implemented, at Cockos' discretion of course. But they are being implemented.

noise_construct · 04-11-2016, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Lots of them throughout the years have made it to a release. Lots! Examples: VCA, multiple MIDI item editing, VST3 support, and so on, and so on, far too many to count.

I've been here for 7 years now (so, much longer than you if we're going by your join date), and FRs are indeed being implemented, at Cockos' discretion of course. But they are being implemented.

That's good to know. I've only been here for 6 months and during this time I haven't seen him even comment on any FR.

Guess the realistic chance of any FR getting implemented is below 0.01%, if we assume a few new ones each day.

EvilDragon · 04-11-2016, 05:47 AM

I think Cockos' stance is that bug fixes tend to be more important than FRs. Which I think makes perfect sense.