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01-27-2020, 12:01 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
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Allow Pre-fader sends to not mute when the sending track is muted
Coming from Pro Tools I expected to be able to mute a track, and allow sends on that track that are set to Pre-Fader to continue to send.
The work-around (for my usual purposes) is to option-click the IO on the sending track to disable that tracks master send. However if I'm not using that track to send to the master then this won't help.
I've seen other people mention this feature for various purposes. For me I usually want it to see just what I might be doing to a sound, like if I'm using Wavefactory's Trackspacer and I want to analyze what it's doing to that track etc..
If people don't agree, then I'd still ask for a preference, or even another option like Pre-fader AND pre-mute, etc..
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01-27-2020, 10:23 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Cambridge, UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice
Coming from Pro Tools I expected to be able to mute a track, and allow sends on that track that are set to Pre-Fader to continue to send.
The work-around (for my usual purposes) is to option-click the IO on the sending track to disable that tracks master send. However if I'm not using that track to send to the master then this won't help.
I've seen other people mention this feature for various purposes. For me I usually want it to see just what I might be doing to a sound, like if I'm using Wavefactory's Trackspacer and I want to analyze what it's doing to that track etc..
If people don't agree, then I'd still ask for a preference, or even another option like Pre-fader AND pre-mute, etc..
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I would also welcome proper prefade Mute logic, and actually I can see a very simple way to provide it without any changes to Reaper's general mixer architecture: have a 'Mute buttons operate Master Send switches' preference. This would allow a channel to be muted in the main mix using the channel Mute button, but without muting any of its prefade sends, which is exactly what I think we're both looking for. Why don't I just alt-click the channel I/O buttons? Because I currently have to do this with the mouse, and that's way too slow for live tracking sessions. If the channel Mute buttons could control the Master Send switches, I could do this from my hardware controller, which is much quicker, and can easily be done on multiple tracks at once without first selecting them all. (Incidentally, the solo logic already works fine as it is, as long as the solo busses are set to Solo Defeat.)
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07-18-2021, 01:46 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Cambridge, UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by triviul
I would also welcome proper prefade Mute logic, and actually I can see a very simple way to provide it without any changes to Reaper's general mixer architecture: have a 'Mute buttons operate Master Send switches' preference. This would allow a channel to be muted in the main mix using the channel Mute button, but without muting any of its prefade sends, which is exactly what I think we're both looking for. Why don't I just alt-click the channel I/O buttons? Because I currently have to do this with the mouse, and that's way too slow for live tracking sessions. If the channel Mute buttons could control the Master Send switches, I could do this from my hardware controller, which is much quicker, and can easily be done on multiple tracks at once without first selecting them all. (Incidentally, the solo logic already works fine as it is, as long as the solo busses are set to Solo Defeat.)
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Actually -- coming back to it, I can see a flaw there. That kind of muting workaround wouldn't mute post-fader sends, so any send-effects wouldn't be muted when you muted a track. Oh well... Back to wishing on a star for a proper mixer-style Preferences option...
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03-11-2023, 08:06 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 79
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Adding my support for making an option to make pre-fader also pre-mute.
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03-11-2023, 02:20 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
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There is a global option to stop track processing when the track is muted. Same is on by default. I suppose when set to off, sends might work for muted tracks.
-Michael
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03-22-2023, 08:43 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 22
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+1 for this.
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