(FIXED) MIDI Overdub is actually extending items (a little bit)?

[FeedTheCat]

I've uploaded a gif to the stash:
https://stash.reaper.fm/37335/bug_overdub.gif

Seems that when recording over the edge of an item in MIDI-Overdub mode,
the item source is extended. On the first pass it is only extended by some
milliseconds, on the second pass it is extended fully.

Tested on Linux

Edit: New GIF (Using show overlapping media items in lanes)

[mccrabney]

what would you prefer to have it do?

[FeedTheCat]

Hi mccrabney,

maybe my title was a bit misleading. The issue isn't that items are expanded
in MIDI Overdub mode. (Even though I have to admit, I wish they weren't ).

The issue is that when recording over an existing item, that does not share
borders with another item, its MIDI source is extended by approximately 2ms.
This happens without even sending MIDI input to the track. So any items you
are just passing over are affected. When using pooled MIDI.......

I can not think of a scenario where this could possibly be your desired behavior

p.s. watch the GIF, it should showcase what I mean

[mccrabney]

The issue is that when recording over an existing item, that does not share
borders with another item, its MIDI source is extended by approximately 2ms.

confirmed here.

[carbon]

Same here. I've unwillingly messed up the timing of some items a couple of times by duplicating them as the shift accumulates.

[carbon]

This is frustrating. I just had to go over an entire project with tiny timing accidents.
Maybe some way to reset the item length via actions could be a workaround?

[akademie]

Confirmed here :-(

(Reaper v6.0 32-bit, Windows XP Pro 32-bit and Reaper v5.984 32-bit, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit)

[mccrabney]

Originally Posted by carbon

This is frustrating. I just had to go over an entire project with tiny timing accidents.

yes, this does appear to be the source of this class of timing errors. i'd been trying to pin this down for ... years?

[FeedTheCat]

Wow, it's almost been a year... Friendly bump

[_Stevie_]

Apparently fixed in the current pre

[FeedTheCat]

Yup it's fixed! What a great day

[mccrabney]

no, now it's underlapping instead of overlapping

[FeedTheCat]

Originally Posted by mccrabney

no, now it's underlapping instead of overlapping

Yeah... You're right. When it extends items it doesn't do so correctly (They don't end exactly on the grid). But if you MIDI overdub over existing items it doesn't mess with them anymore.